am I an a-hole for telling someone they bought something fake?

[Mark Warlock]

Um... so here's a thought... has anyone given any thought that it could possibly be a prototype that was never release. It seems that most of the comments have made mention of what and what hasnt been produced. If this is possibly some sort of conceptual prototype that was never put into production then that could explain some issues with it.

In the past i have had my hands on one off prototypes from Kenner and Hasbro, to name a couple, that were hand painted, and packaged but were never actually produced.

Though this set could be a custom unless someone has any thing from Takatoku stating that they never worked on a prototype like this then its all speculation as to its authenticity.

Just a thought.

Edited November 3, 2012 by Mark Warlock

[nautilus]

There *is* a small, close-knit and well coined group of specialist collectors in Japan who specialize in acquiring prototypes/demonstrators/display items/etc. (such as the display SDF-1 I acquired) and it is *just* possible that one might have sold something out of country; even something with such manky typos... Seriously. I've seen blatantly mangled text and pics on some of my legitimate Takatoku releases from their early 80s runs, so the screwy text is not a nail in the coffin of this toy. However, I'd still say it is very, very improbable....

I've seen some of Takatoku's Dorvak, Orguss and Mach Go-Go-Go protos coming onto the Grey market over the years, but never any of the real desirables - and if something like this had been mocked up, the community would have been in a uproar. When Takatoku went under, the entire Macross liscence fell to Bandai and they were very careful about sweeping up all of the proto/demo material.

Could something have slipped through the nets? Certainly... However, in the state that it is in, the odds are so against it that, if that turns out to be a real demo version of an unreleased Takatoku toy, I'll show my **** again at the Vatican - I'd be that impressed.

Still, even as it is, it might find a buyer. There is also a healthy market for clever repros in Japan, but..... go figure. :]

Edited November 4, 2012 by nautilus

[Renato]

The garbled text on the box with the back-to-front katakana and whatnot clearly indicates amateur work. If it has a tiny chance of it being anything other than a fan custom, it may be a bootleg. But I am 120% sure it's not. I'm sure the hardcore fan who made it was probably on these boards in the old days anyway -- the community was so close back then. Maybe some original members know who made it.

In any case, it is definitely not from Japan.

Edited November 4, 2012 by Renato

[izzyfcuk]

Ii IS a custom. Wish the old boards still have something lying around. i combed through it and can't find it.

These are the only ones i have found

Jung's

[izzyfcuk]

Max and Millia was done by AL11

http://www.macrossworld.com/cgi-bin/mwfarchive/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=11;t=12272;top

Just can't find the vermillion one.

[Renato]

Oh, that VF-1D box (and valk) is amazing.

[juice14]

Max and Millia was done by AL11

http://www.macrosswo...1;t=12272;

Just can't find the vermillion one.

Oh my goodness.... custom Macross.... now I'm really broke .... nice!

[Valkyrie Magnus]

I remember seeing those back before the Bandai reissues and Yamato valks.

[bernard21]

I think this is a really great set!! I did notice that this set actually says Takatoku Toy on the bottom right side of the box.

The other MAX and Miriya set doesn't. Is this typical for custom sets or items to actually have the brand names on the box???

[jenius]

Yes because the people making the customs were trying to make it appear as authentic as humanly possible, note the custom VF-1D above also credits Takatoku. The M&M marriage set is trying to be a 20th anniversary set so it would be a Bandai product if it was made by anyone. I wonder if any of these customs went so far as to take the Bigwest sticker off of licensed merchandise and apply it to these customs.

[Hiriyu]

The Max-Kakizaki giftset custom box is quite cool. Takatoku fitted foam trays would have pulled the whole thing together a bit more though... Vacuformed Joons trays just aren't right when the name Takatoku appears on the box

[valkyrie312]

Wish I could get a VF-1D box for my 1/55 custom. Anyone on these boards have the ability to produce these?

[jvmacross]

Tenjin or Takani illustrated boxes for the new Yamato v2's would be interesting.....new valk toys inside retro boxes!

[Vermillion One]

I remember these, they were awesome customs. Lots of great craftsmanship lost when people stop paying attention to 1/55 valks.

[Valkyrie Magnus]

I remember there use to be a lot of 1/55 customs such as the super ostrich or Max VF-1S. There were alot of websites about 12 years ago dedicated to 1/55 customs too. Yamato seems to give us enough variants that people do not feel the need to customize 1/55's the way they use to.

[Shaorin]

I remember there use to be a lot of 1/55 customs such as the super ostrich or Max VF-1S. There were alot of websites about 12 years ago dedicated to 1/55 customs too. Yamato seems to give us enough variants that people do not feel the need to customize 1/55's the way they use to.

nor command anything like the insane-ass prices that original TAKA/BANDAI 1/55's did ye olde long time ago.

GOD, did i ever LUST after those things back then... $1000+ for a BANDAI -1S STRIKE Hikaru DYRL... NOT EVEN a faint possibility for me then...

Edited December 7, 2012 by Shaorin

[DARKWIND]

Yeah I remember hunting for the Takas back in the day. . .

As soon as I found one at a good price it would get sniped right outta my hands. . .

Ebay and yahoo auctions were like crack back then!

Hahaha!

[izzyfcuk]

Would anyone be able to get in touch with anyone who owns this piece? I really want it.....

[g3173]

Izzy. One down brotha! Glad I was able to make this happen for you. That Marriage set is one amazing custom

[Mechapilot77]

that does look pretty cool! someone is selling a custom max/mirria wedding one on here too IIRC.

even though these sets never existed, the box style and art really take me back! i kinda want someone to make custom boxes styled like that to display some yamatos in. lol. how aesome would tha tbe?

Edited October 18, 2013 by Mechapilot77

[wmkjr]

that does look pretty cool! someone is selling a custom max/mirria wedding one on here too IIRC.

even though these sets never existed, the box style and art really take me back! i kinda want someone to make custom boxes styled like that to display some yamatos in. lol. how aesome would tha tbe?

I think it was the guy above you that was selling it.

[izzyfcuk]

Yeah I know, I bought that from him.

also looking for the 1D from member "greenspitz"