valid Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 damn.. now i hope bandai will took over yamato 1:60 license... i need this as a toys.. lack of modelling skill really make me fell sad after see this 3d render Quote
UN_MARINE Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 The new transformation mechanism's pretty sweet, though I feel it's just a bit more fragile than we want it to be. It'd probably be more impressive if this kit was intended to be produced like the RG kits. Also, those 2 holes on the backpack look suspicious, are they for locking the arms in place in fighter mode? Yeah, the FP's back parts look a little small too. Quote
Graham Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Is it just me, or do the back FAST Packs, Strike cannon look too small. Graham Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Is it just me, or do the back FAST Packs, Strike cannon look too small. Graham Extremely small and the shape is completely wrong too. The leg packs are completely wrong. Edited March 22, 2013 by Ignacio Ocamica Quote
EXO Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Yeah. FPs looks too small and has weird shapes. They'll probably rework it but why even show it off if it looks that far off. And too kibbly (word?) at 1/72 scale. If Bandai produces that to be stable in any mode, it'd be incredibly impressive. Quote
lechuck Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Very exciting stuff, I think Battroid is going to have some great articulation. Quote
CF18 Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Also notice the pricing: 4725yen (4500 yen before tax) for DYRL Hikaru VF-1A/1S, 2100 yen (2000 yen before tax) for fast/strike pack, both to be released in June. Price is identical to the 1:72 VF-25 releases. Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 The articulation looks impressive, but I have no idea how they expect to manufacture that in 1/72 and keep the parts from snapping in half if you breathe on them. The 1/72 VF-25s are bad enough, and this is even smaller, and looks extremely intricate. Unless that entire inner framework is metal, I don't know how you'll ever be able to actually transform it without pieces snapping off every direction. Do appreciate that they're actually including all the weapons it seems, even some atmospheric missiles with the fins deployed. FAST packs are definitely wonky though, and way too small. Hope it's not because of weight issues. Quote
valky-001 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Wow, seeing that post just made this day exciting to me, like OMG hydraulic pistons looking for legs delivery panels and as hydraulic locking pistons for chest plate with back plate, and retractable wings to solve the overhang main wings for battroide mode. I say Amen for seeing that the innovation of perfect transformation for our beloved Valkyrie is still moving forward. Quote
kyekye Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) The mechanism is amazing! Specially for the scale. However, it brings me back the nightmare of old Bandai vf-25 alto kit and what happened to the paint and decals..etc. I will pick this up anyways, but I'd rather have it as a pre-painted/ finished toy when it comes to transforming Valkyries. Edited March 24, 2013 by kyekye Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Very Very nice, they should have made into a toy first. Quote
mechaninac Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Very Very nice, they should have made into a toy first. I'd be more than happy if they went the MG Gundam Plamo rout and had every conceivable color break broken down into color specific sprue trees and/or their multi-color, multimedia sprues. The 25s were more akin to HG kits in the way they separated parts by color, but I'd really like to get MG/RG/PG level molding here. Edited March 23, 2013 by mechaninac Quote
MechTech Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 First off, thanks guys for keeping us up to date on this! Second, would it be out of line to call this sexy? Looks good. The FP's might be off, but some from an old Bandai or Hase could substitute. The ordinance selection and the optional hardpoionts are a GREAT idea! I think they're doing great so far. No kit seems to get everythign right. Even the 1/72nd -25's weren't to the right scale! I guess you win some and lose some. Then again, it's not in production yet. - MT Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Definitely impressed with the new transformation additions, but those FAST packs are way off. PT models are a pain, paint chipping, decal cracking, parts breaking. Edited March 23, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote
David Hingtgen Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I'd be more than happy if they went the MG Gundam Plamo rout and had every conceivable color break broken down into color specific sprue trees and/or their multi-color, multimedia sprues. The 25s were more akin to HG kits in the way they separated parts by color, but I'd really like to get MG/RG/PG level molding here.I hope for, but don't expect that. Molding the wings and tailfins in several pieces to have molded-in accent colors would help prevent a LOT of paint-rubs, but I figure they'll be single pieces with decals, and won't last 1 full sequence of F-B-F. Similarly---I'd love a Milia, but figure it'd be molded like 90% red, and would come with a ton of white stickers to cover the legs and arms with... Now, if the parts layout was broken up correctly, and most every piece was molded the correct color like a modern MG with almost no painting needed, then it'd be AMAZING and I'd probably buy several... Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I'd be more than happy if they went the MG Gundam Plamo rout and had every conceivable color break broken down into color specific sprue trees and/or their multi-color, multimedia sprues. The 25s were more akin to HG kits in the way they separated parts by color, but I'd really like to get MG/RG/PG level molding here. Also agreed on that, as for the FP don't really care about it. Quote
Duymon Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Bandai has gotten a lot better at doing space fighter kits. Just look at their Cosmo Zero Alpha from Yamato 2199. The thing has just one seam line between the top and bottom of the fuselage and the only thing that needs painting is the Canopy (but of course proper paint makes it look 10000x better) When I built mine I could not believe how perfectly the thing went together. Even the Machine-gun ports on the bottom of the fighter and the large cannon in front have proper grey coloring, and this is in 1/72.... the thing is tiny. If Bandai upscaled this to 1/48 I'd probably buy too many for my own good. Edited March 24, 2013 by Duymon Quote
UN Spacy Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Preorders are open at Ami. 1/72 VF-1A/S http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-03185&page=top 1/72 Strike Parts http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-03186&page=top Quote
kyekye Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Now available for pre-order at AmiAmi The Super Dimension Fortress Macross 1/72 VF-1 Strike Parts Set for Valkyrie P..| 1,450 JPY| The Super Dimension Fortress Macross 1/72 VF-1A/S Valkyrie Hikaru Ichijyou Mod..| 3,270 JPY| -Edit: You beat me to it!! Edited March 25, 2013 by kyekye Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Wow, that was fast! Well, unlike the typical Bandai DX releases, I have no trouble believing the kits will be available for a long time. I don't know how many production runs of the VF-25 kits have gone through Bandai, but aside from the occasional time they run out and have to restock, those are still easily available from HLJ on a fairly consistent basis. Do think it's pretty audacious of them to put up sales using CAD renders though. I mean, do they not even have a finished prototype mold yet? Edited March 25, 2013 by Chronocidal Quote
Kaldar5 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Do think it's pretty audacious of them to put up sales using CAD renders though. I mean, do they not even have a finished prototype mold yet? Yeah that's a ballsy move. I really want to know if they fixed the Strike pack size or not. Or is it too late to change it? Who knows, we aren't allowed to see what we are buying ¬_¬ I placed an order for an out of stock Hasagawa Battleoid VF1S w/ strike pack just yesterday. I'll cancel it and get this if it's good. Edited March 25, 2013 by Kaldar5 Quote
Kelsain Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Nice to see a decent rendering of what this'll look like. I'm so used to seeing the shoulder/neck of the Yamato V2, it looks a little weird - but actually not too far from the original animation. Looks like a good compromise. Hopefully the fit of the parts improves when they go to production. Quote
Duymon Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I don't think there will be supply shortages of these kits. Don't feel the need to preorder as if it was a DX chogokin Quote
kyekye Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Hobby Search Pre-order is now open VF-1 A/S Strike Parts Set for VF-1 only reason I pre-order is for discounted price. Some case they go back to full price after item release. Edited March 25, 2013 by kyekye Quote
Hoptimus Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Wow. Ambitious. A lot more detail than I was expecting. Quote
Shaorin Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 i'll likely be waiting for the Focker -1S... Quote
Jasonc Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 With Yamato once releasing just about every Valk, and even their 1/60 toy as an unassembled kit, I find ZERO need for this. Maybe if it looked a little better, I'd jump in for one, but it just doesn't have the charm. Quote
Vifam7 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'm looking forward to see what I can mix and match between this kit, the Imai, and the Hasegawa. Quote
lechuck Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Pre-ordered from AmiAmi earlier. What can I say it's Macross, it's Hikaru's VF-1S... I'll buy blind Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Oh, those dipwads... that's utter bs. They don't include any of the weapons with the normal kit.. they all come with the fast packs. Even the A/A missiles not used with the fast packs. Idiots. I might get one eventually, but considering how many Yamato 1/60 kits I have already, I don't see much of a reason. Plus, you don't get any missiles at all unless you buy their malformed little fast pack add-on. Quote
Duymon Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Oh, those dipwads... that's utter bs. They don't include any of the weapons with the normal kit.. they all come with the fast packs. Even the A/A missiles not used with the fast packs. Idiots. I might get one eventually, but considering how many Yamato 1/60 kits I have already, I don't see much of a reason. Plus, you don't get any missiles at all unless you buy their malformed little fast pack add-on. Did people bitch when Hasegawa did it? Oh wait, they did lol Edited March 25, 2013 by Duymon Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Of course they did, but Hasegawa ALWAYS does that, with pretty much every aircraft. It's because they also have separate weapons packs that are meant to apply to pretty much every aircraft kit they produce, and it saves on tooling when you don't have to pack weapons into the same molds. With the Hasegawa VF-1 kits, you couldn't transform them, so the fast pack versions came as separate releases. The VF-1 weapons sets came with all the weapons, and applied to any release (though cheaping out and only including pilots with those sets was lousy). This is more "We don't want you to be able to do anything fun unless you buy the extras," similar to the VF-171 wing hardpoint shenanigans. Not only are they not including any standard weapons besides the gunpod with the normal kit, but they're throwing in the atmospheric fighter weapons with the fast pack add-on, when they have nothing to do with each other. I bet you the hardpointed wings only come with the fast packs, too. And on top of that the fast packs are fugly. Makes me think they're aware of this, and are packing all the missiles with them to see if they can force people to buy them anyway. Edited March 26, 2013 by Chronocidal Quote
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