Reïvaj Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 They're called canards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorindor Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Damn! Those are the first color schemes for the YF-29 that I actually like. Edited September 28, 2012 by Lorindor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 He just trimmed/flipped the YF-29's normal canards to match the ones on the Fire Valk. I love that YF-19 styled one, but... seriously people. Learn something about aircraft before you go painting everything random colors. Intakes are not something you paint as a colored accent. That's actually part of what bugged me about Macross 7... While pretty much every other Macross series has adhered to marking aircraft with standard military-styled painting conventions, Macross 7 kinda went and ignored a lot of standard aircraft things. I don't mean paintschemes mind you, I mean things like the white intakes and landing gear/bays, certain warning symbols, anti-glare panels, etc. Macross Frontier actually did pretty decently in that regard too, but now Bandai's slapping colors all over everything like a five-year-old given a toy airplane, and a paint marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightCastle Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) They're called canards. Thanks. The fact that they were not like the other YF-29s threw me off a little. He just trimmed/flipped the YF-29's normal canards to match the ones on the Fire Valk. I love that YF-19 styled one, but... seriously people. Learn something about aircraft before you go painting everything random colors. Intakes are not something you paint as a colored accent. That's actually part of what bugged me about Macross 7... While pretty much every other Macross series has adhered to marking aircraft with standard military-styled painting conventions, Macross 7 kinda went and ignored a lot of standard aircraft things. I don't mean paintschemes mind you, I mean things like the white intakes and landing gear/bays, certain warning symbols, anti-glare panels, etc. Macross Frontier actually did pretty decently in that regard too, but now Bandai's slapping colors all over everything like a five-year-old given a toy airplane, and a paint marker. While I will admit that I don't know a lot about aircraft, but as an artist who appreciates realism, I can admit that I would have at least gotten that much myself. I don't get why they do that to the intakes. Even I know that practical use would inevitably make those locations dark and in no way retain anything even remotely close to a bright color which makes the point of that coloring moot. Edited September 29, 2012 by NightCastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 That's actually part of what bugged me about Macross 7... While pretty much every other Macross series has adhered to marking aircraft with standard military-styled painting conventions, Macross 7 kinda went and ignored a lot of standard aircraft things. I don't mean paintschemes mind you, I mean things like the white intakes and landing gear/bays, certain warning symbols, anti-glare panels, etc. So what are standard military style markings tor aircraft? I'm curious. What are no-nos and are they standard across all military forces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Basically don't paint up your intakes like a big yellow target for the enemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Basically don't paint up your intakes like a big yellow target for the enemy Yeah, but what's the difference? All bloody planes are red or blue flying targets, I don’t think yellow or white accents change that fact at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Yeah, but what's the difference? All bloody planes are red or blue flying targets, I don’t think yellow or white accents change that fact at all. Oh, I totally agree I was just being facetious. I'm the guy who LIKES the green canopy after all! Edited September 29, 2012 by xrentonx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Y'all haters can hate on this paint scheme... I hope that just means I'll be able to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Actually, it's a maintenance issue. Same reason you don't paint landing gear any oddball colors: so you can see if something's wrong, spot leaks, or damaged parts. Fluid leaking into your intakes isn't a good thing. And there may be more reasons, but that's just the one off the top of my head. Anything on an aircraft that needs to be kept clean you paint white, so you know when it gets dirty. Every fighter aircraft I can think of paints the intake interiors a light color, even planes like the Blue Angels. Outer paintschemes are one thing, and really, with all the fancy uber-tech stealth junk they have by the 2050s, it probably doesn't matter how you paint your aircraft. But you still have to maintain them. Painting critical and high maintenance areas all kinds of crazy colors is just making the job harder. Edited September 29, 2012 by Chronocidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think you’re over thinking it. With your argument of all the fancy uber-tech stealth junk they have by the 2050s we could also guess maintenance isn’t like what current aircrafts need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 We have however seen hangars full of maintenance people in nearly every series--it may be different maintenance, but they still need a ton of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechuck Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I love that YF-19 styled one, but... seriously people. Learn something about aircraft before you go painting everything random colors. Intakes are not something you paint as a colored accent. That's actually part of what bugged me about Macross 7... While pretty much every other Macross series has adhered to marking aircraft with standard military-styled painting conventions, Macross 7 kinda went and ignored a lot of standard aircraft things. I don't mean paintschemes mind you, I mean things like the white intakes and landing gear/bays, certain warning symbols, anti-glare panels, etc. Macross Frontier actually did pretty decently in that regard too, but now Bandai's slapping colors all over everything like a five-year-old given a toy airplane, and a paint marker. Sorry maybe I'm alone on this, but these are fictional fighters transforming into robots and doing all sorts of acrobatics. If someone uses neon-green intakes and neon-yellow landing gear as part of their overall paint scheme than that might be cringe worthy for you (and me). But telling people to hit the books and brush up on aviation standards before painting a fictional mecha to their liking is plain ridiculous. I know some of you are walking dictionaries when it comes to aviation and I truly admire the dedication to the topic, but sometimes some of the posts become a bit overbearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chen Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Paint it whatever you want, it's your toy. Who cares about "real" aircraft paint schemes or design, if any of us had "real" lives we wouldn't be so focused on a Japanese cartoon and all the toys it inspires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightCastle Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Paint it whatever you want, it's your toy. Who cares about "real" aircraft paint schemes or design, if any of us had "real" lives we wouldn't be so focused on a Japanese cartoon and all the toys it inspires Uh-oh. The dreaded "c" word. Grabs a bag of popcorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) They are cartoons...we're all grown up here. We can say that word Edited September 30, 2012 by xrentonx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 BOT: I think that the new scheme looks worse than the old one that they showed us. I was on the fence to begin with, but now with all the purple and the lighter shade of yellow I am wondering if I even want or need this anymore. I do like the fact that it is not an Alto anymore though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Well, sure, they're all robot mecha airplanes, I know. Thing is... Kawamori has a degree in aeronautics (as far as I recall). The whole point of the VF-1 in the first place was to make a plane that turned into a robot, not the other way around. On top of that, due to the plot, the robot part was supposed to be entirely secret. I guess no, they don't have to be realistic at all. But it's fun to imagine that they could be. It's fun to think about what valks would look like if they were real, and actually used by real life militaries. Given how many people go out of their way to detail models of them up as if they were actual aircraft , it's clearly a popular idea. Really.. this isn't so much about whether Macross has to look real or not. This is about the fact that despite the overwhelming treatment of valks as "real" aircraft from other sources, Bandai just can't seem to comprehend the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drackie Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) i like it :3 i was needed some minutes to get use too, but after that... i liked :3 http://www.amiami.co...-RBT-2516&page= i have one of this beautys ( my kawaii koneko chan) in preorder, ant this surprise color was great :3 the only problem is the same... those big yellow areas down the wings, but is ok to me, i will do some lining to fix them http://www.toyark.co...s-changed-6521/ so the pilot will be: alto ? ozma ? unknown ? Someone new ? I want ozma and yep i hope too that will be the same yellow of the VF-25S Edited October 3, 2012 by Drackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 The funny thing is... This is not a YF-29S, since it has the same head as Alto's right? I don't remember a prototype valk with a "letter" designation tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Of course it's not a "S" type! One can not be a leader without a head unit with four laser cannons! P.S.: Except you ride a VF-22S! Edited October 3, 2012 by charger69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Or the VF-0 Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightCastle Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Wait. With the changes to the color scheme is the title of this thread accurate any longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Accurate enough, I think. Should probably have the word "inspired" in there somewhere. Edited October 3, 2012 by xrentonx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightCastle Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Accurate enough, I think. Should probably have the word "inspired" in there somewhere. That (the addition of inspired) makes more sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I found this lorn_13's blog: Looks cool! Here's the link: http://gbmshop.blogspot.com/2011/07/vf-29s_06.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Looks cool! That thing looks CRAZY cool!!! Although, the head wouldn't sit flush in fighter and gerwalk mode, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 No one's posted these? Hmmn. The yellow is inbetween the first pics and the more recent 'shopped pics. Still want a green canopy though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Nice pics. I also liked the green canopy more, but I guess the purple one is not so bad. But what would really make me happy is if they included optional head lasers made out of ABS plastic in this version. If not, would it be possible to have some made using Shapeways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps99042 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Damn you David Hingtgen! Now I'm starting to want this thing just from seeing the Skull Squadron symbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drackie Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 No one's posted these? Hmmn. The yellow is inbetween the first pics and the more recent 'shopped pics. Still want a green canopy though... Has anyone seen the tamashii nations logo in the pic that solves some doubts i hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyD Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I still like the green canopy better. Less of a clash between the green on the head unit. Overall, nice valk though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Payed my NY invoice this morning for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightCastle Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just got my invoice from NY a minute ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typhoon Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Received my invoice as well, just having trouble paying through the link they sent. I sent them a quick email asking to send a fresh link, fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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