M'Kyuun Posted Friday at 04:58 AM Posted Friday at 04:58 AM 3 hours ago, JB0 said: Some of the Constructicon trumpeteers don't even have mouths! Galvatron was spot-on when he called that scene bad comedy. 2 hours ago, David Hingtgen said: Yeah, well, NONE of them had lungs, so mouths wouldn't do much good for playing a trumpet anyways. Especially in SPACE... I concede my point! Just one of the dumber things in the '86 Movie. Dare to be Stupid may have been focused on the Junkions, for good reason, but I think it applies to a number of things in the film. The showdown and quotes from Prime's and Megatron's fight are classic for a reason though, and worthy of having been enshrined in other media. Quote
mikeszekely Posted Friday at 06:45 AM Posted Friday at 06:45 AM (edited) The coronation was on Cybertron, and the repeated visits by humans in the first two seasons and Daniel's near-constant presence in Season 3 implies that Cybertron not only has an atmosphere, but one amenable toward human life. You guys are overthinking it. Just because they happen to look like bugles, assume that they are in fact some sort of Cybertronian instrument that interfaces with and works differently than an Earth bugle. Problem solved. Edited Friday at 06:46 AM by mikeszekely Quote
JB0 Posted Friday at 11:51 AM Posted Friday at 11:51 AM 5 hours ago, mikeszekely said: The coronation was on Cybertron, and the repeated visits by humans in the first two seasons and Daniel's near-constant presence in Season 3 implies that Cybertron not only has an atmosphere, but one amenable toward human life. You guys are overthinking it. Just because they happen to look like bugles, assume that they are in fact some sort of Cybertronian instrument that interfaces with and works differently than an Earth bugle. Problem solved. Honestly, I just roll with it most of the time. It is a silly franchise with a silly premise, so when the cartoon's doing something silly, it is just... on-brand. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Friday at 03:25 PM Posted Friday at 03:25 PM 3 hours ago, JB0 said: Honestly, I just roll with it most of the time. It is a silly franchise with a silly premise, so when the cartoon's doing something silly, it is just... on-brand. True, but the first season started out with a slightly more serious tone. Alas, we can't go back in time and tell them to choose different toys for Megatron, Soundwave, Reflector, and the cassettes so that they can avoid all the mass-shifting shenanigans required to keep their bot modes at the larger scales. I often wonder what the show would have been like had they assigned those toys to different characters and kept them at realistic scale in both forms. We'll never know. Anyway, I enjoy the more focused narrative of first season where it's essentially Megs and the Ds looking for ways to either gather resources or gain greater power and advantage. The Autobots, nearly always on the defensive, try and stop the Decepticons while protecting themselves and Earth. The overall tone was more serious, and while there were moments of whim and humor, silliness even, on the whole I found it much more enjoyable than any successive seasons, which only seemed to incorporate far more whimsy and silliness, which didn't, and still doesn't, appeal to me. The '86 Movie , while it had its few serious and shining moments, had its share of silliness. Astrotrain's request to "lighten the load" while in the vacuum and weightlessness of space takes the cake. 🙄 The writers definitely did not anticipate this movie's becoming the icon that has become amongst fans, especially adults who can pick it apart for all of its gaffs and sillier bits. Then again, given the short lifespan of most toy properties, who could have predicted that this one would still be going strong 40 years later? Quote
mikeszekely Posted Friday at 04:07 PM Posted Friday at 04:07 PM 39 minutes ago, M'Kyuun said: True, but the first season started out with a slightly more serious tone. The first season had Jazz using an icicle to hit snowballs at Starscream. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Friday at 07:52 PM Posted Friday at 07:52 PM 3 hours ago, mikeszekely said: The first season had Jazz using an icicle to hit snowballs at Starscream. 😄 I don't remember that, but I know he was completely covered in snow and let it fall on Spike in "Fire in the Sky". I always thought it odd that they killed off Skyfire in that ep, although it has one of the more solemn endings where Skyfire sacrifices himself and the Autobots pay tribute. However, they dug him up in the "Fire on the Mountain" episode of season 1, IIRC, thus cheapening his sacrifice. Regardless, I really liked the character and was glad they brought him back. Quote
anime52k8 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I know it's more accurate, but the tiny hood chest looks so dorky on sideswipe. that plus terrible alt mode. Quote
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