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[Dangard Ace]

If they finally announce TFA Omega Supreme that's an instant buy from me.   That would finally complete the TFA crew as there's never been an official TFA OS before.  

[mikeszekely]

I feel like the safe bet is RiD Megatron to go with Omega Prime, but at the same time I'm not sure why you couldn't do him with a retail Commander-class. Maybe a box set  with Slapper, Gas Skunk, and Dark Scream? 

I dunno, I have enough stuff to be excited for, I'm half hoping it's something I don't want, so I don't have to worry about scraping together a bunch of money for a toy I won't see for another year+ anyway.

[M'Kyuun]

3 hours ago, Dangard Ace said:

If they finally announce TFA Omega Supreme that's an instant buy from me.   That would finally complete the TFA crew as there's never been an official TFA OS before.  

Likewise, although I'm torn on whether I want it to be crowdfunded or just a nice titan class fig at retail. It'd likely be cheaper as a retail toy, but to really capture the complexity of the design, Haslab might be the better way to go. Either way, I'm in for a copy if they make it.

[mikeszekely]

I think TFA Omega is a good choice for a figure to be made one way or the other, but I don't think I'm in for him.  I swore Tidal Wave is the only Titan they could get me to buy after Nemesis, and I'd have stuck with that if they hadn't made smaller, cheaper Titans like Star Convoy.

[lechuck]

[davidwhangchoi]

rattrap looks good

 

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[Hikuro]

Just got my G2 Breakdown from Amazon. Pretty much what I thought he would be, I got a lil miffed at first though cause his windows are semi translucent pearl color, while Deadend was just Silver paint. Then I remembered, Hasbro went stupid cheap on Deadend and just molded all that into him to save money whereas the other figures actually are translucent plastic. Kind of wondering though if Hasbro is gonna finish the set for Wildrider and Motormaster being the remaining to get a G2 Menasor. I have yet to see any listings and they shouldn't take so damn long on just repainting. 

[sh9000]

Hopefully G2 Wildrider and Motormaster get released.  I want to complete my G2 Stunticons.

[mikeszekely]

I'm pretty pumped for Age of the Primes, but before they start hitting shelves Hasbro decided to do one final, bonus wave of Legacy United.  So it's review time... not for a single figure, though.  For the whole entire wave.

Up first, we have G2 Breakdown.  He's sporting a new-to-me head, though if you bought the toy-colored Menasor giftset you'll be familiar with it already.  Otherwise, for better or worse, it's the same mold with the same issues... only one gun when his mates all got two, and a spoiler as an accessory that won't really be an accessory once I cut it in half and it can stay on his calves, like I did with the regular version.

He also has the same reused not even close to a Lamborghini nose from Wildrider, which is the thing I hate the most about him.  Both versions.  So... yeah, I guess get him if you've bought the other two G2 Stunticons and cross your fingers for a G2 Wildrider and Motormaster (which they almost certainly will).  Or, maybe get him so your Menasor has some kind of leg bot if you were buying the Legacy Stunticons at retail and missed out on G1 Breakdown (which seems to be a thing people did).  Otherwise Breakdown isn't the G2 Stunticon you want to start with.

Next up is a guy that wasn't much of a surprise... it's Armada Wheeljack.  We've already seen this Sideswipe retool in the form of Shattered Glass Sideswipe, who himself was originally a repaint of Armada Wheeljack.  While Wheeljack has no mold differences from SG Sideswipe, SG Sideswipe already had a new head, chest, and doors compared to the Siege/Earthrise versions.  Wheeljack also has the clubs that were created for SG Sideswipe, which were Wheeljack's weapons in both his original toy and the Armada cartoon, and the shoulder rocket launcher that has nothing to do with Wheeljack but gets packed in with every version of this mold, no matter how retooled.  Oh, and speaking of the cartoon, the deco Hasbro went with is cartoon accurate, not the yellow stripes on the toy, but with a number of "we ran out of budget for paint" issues like a black hands instead of silver, no silver on his thighs or feet, and no gold on his biceps.

Wheeljack, like the other retail Armada characters, does NOT have the minicon that Sideswipe came with.

While Wheeljack's bot mode is, more or less, close enough, his alt mode suffers the most for being a Sideswipe retool.  The clubs stick out weirdly from the sides, and he's a little too flat.  Plus he's missing his spoiler.

Ultimately, I think Wheeljack is fine.  Despite being a major part of Hot Shot's story arc he was a very late edition to the Armada cast; I would personally prefer the "new mold" budget go to a more worthy character.  And, despite getting a little long in the tooth, the Sideswipe mold is still a solid one.  If you're collecting Armada I say pick him up; I'm definitely happy to have him rounding out my collection.  On the other hand, if you're not into Armada and you've passed on guys like Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream I can't imagine why you'd suddenly want Wheeljack on your shelf.

And... well, that's it for the Deluxes, as the rest of the wave were package refreshes of Cosmos and and Origin Bumblebee.  If you missed out on them, Cosmos is pretty great and you should definitely grab him this time.  Origin Bumblebee is the weakest of the Origin figures, but ultimately OK enough.  I'm happy that people are getting another crack at them; Cosmos was previously a notoriously shortpacked Walmart-exclusive, and I think there are probably a number of people who passed on Origin Bumblebee as not entirely necessary when he was the only one, but maybe regret skipping him after Jazz and Wheeljack became a thing.  Both were already in my collection, though, so we can move on to the Voyagers...

...which are just more package refreshes.  In this case, Ramjet and Tarn.  Ramjet I kind of get; he was previously part of a store-exclusive two-pack with Dirge, and Dirge himself was part of a package refresh not so long ago in Legacy Evolution.  I think that begs the question, though, what about Thrust?  I recall him being the most difficult of the Coneheads to acquire by far.  Perhaps he could have replaced Tarn in this very wave, because his inclusion is a real head-scratcher for me.  He wasn't some kind of store-exclusive before, he already had a retail release less than two years ago in Legacy Evolution.  I've heard some people complain that he was hard to find at retail... was it really that bad though?  I recall him shelfwarming at my local Walmart and Target.  But, even if you did miss his retail release, there was the Target pack with the moderately-redecoed Cyberverse Tarn, along with Tarnatulas, and Squeezeplay, fighting Prime Cliffjumper.  A set that, despite many people buying it just for Squeezeplay, appears to be shelfwarming because I've been to two different Targets since the weekend and both still had stock.  So, yeah, I guess I'd recommend Ramjet and Tarn if you don't have them yet, but in the back of my mind I'm pretty sure if you wanted Tarn you already got him.

And that brings us to the Leaders.

So we've got Overcharge, a redeco of Blitzwing with a barely-retooled head that's based on the Diaclone version of the G1 toy.  His accessories are the same; a sword, two rifles, and those stupid Hulk hands.

As was the case with Blitzwing, the tank mode is passable if you can ignore the cartoon-accurate cockpit sticking out the front.  But the jet mode is still absolute trash, and the Hulk hands are a waste of plastic.  I sincerely hope that if the team ever takes another crack at Blitzwing, maybe in Studio Series, that they spend the money on his abundance of accessories on better engineering.  You should pass on Overcharge; I only bought him because I've bought all the Diaclone repaints so far, and Overcharge is the first one that's making me question my life's decisions.

But hey, at least Overcharge looks passably good in two out of three modes!  Because the second Leader and final figure in the wave is one more package refresh, Galaxy Shuttle.  Galaxy Shuttle, you may recall, was a repaint of Astrotrain as the Autobot from Victory, ostensibly as part of the same Walmart-exclusive line Comsos was in, but with an even spottier release that made him even harder to get.  So I should be saying again that I'm glad for the people who missed him the first time, except that I strongly feel those people are better off missing him again.  Galaxy Shuttle sucks.  Even if I thought Astrotrain was a great figure he'd be a poor fit for Galaxy Shuttle.  He's missing the engine bells in the heels, the gun that's his vertical stabilizer, and the shuttle nose that's supposed to be his more prominent torso feature.  But maybe those are acceptable sacrifices in your book to bring a more obscure Japanese character to retail.  Well, the Astrotrain figure he's repainted from is NOT a great figure.  The bot mode was ok, but BOTH alt modes sucked.  The shuttle mode had a gappy, unfinished look to the rear, while the train mode looks like it's giving birth to a smaller train; the wheels don't even line up!

When Legacy began with figures like G2 Laser Prime, Kickback, and Dragstrip I was pretty excited for what was to come.  In hindsight, though, I think Legacy got worse as it went on, burying us with repaints and retools, some of which were head-scratchers in the first place (Chromia), others that were poorly planned in ways that caused both versions to suffer (Sideburn and Shadowstriker), and wasting new-mold cash on characters like Rescue Bots Chase and Detritus while delivering disappointingly lazy remolds for characters like Breakdown and straight up ignoring season 1 characters like Windcharger.  Right now, I'm excited for Age of the Primes, but I sincerely hope it doesn't fizzle out the way Legacy did.  This last wave of United isn't Legacy ending on a bang... it's more like ending on a wet fart. 

[Black Valkyrie]

 

 T-SPARK Diaclone Horsvar Salter Mk-II Pre-Order open :  

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[mikeszekely]

3 hours ago, Black Valkyrie said:

 

 T-SPARK Diaclone Horsvar Salter Mk-II Pre-Order open :  

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0DSKCS788/ 

 

 

Looks like a less-good Valkyrie...

[Valkyrie Hunter D]

A better look at the upcoming Predaking:

[lechuck]

Hmm... AMT Predaking is like the exact opposite of MPG Raiden.

Combined form is great, but the individual bots look like something from the Hasbro cheapness playbook.

[mikeszekely]

The individual Predacons look bad. Like, sure, there's joints and stuff that look like a regular retail Hasbro product, but their proportions are way worse.

[Scyla]

22 minutes ago, lechuck said:

Hmm... AMT Predaking is like the exact opposite of MPG Raiden.

Combined form is great, but the individual bots look like something from the Hasbro cheapness playbook.

On the contrary, like Raiden, Predaking is tiny. 

[sh9000]

Hopefully there will be an Age of the Primes Predaking release.

[sh9000]

 

[sh9000]

Basara Prime.

[mikeszekely]

Legacy United isn't the only line with new figures coming out.  Studio Series is a bit trickier to follow, what with everything not broken into neat annual lines and releases getting seriously shuffled around.  But, I'm pretty sure I have all of this wave in hand, and despite no apparent need to clean house before moving on to a new year, that's pretty much exactly what Hasbro did.  Yeah, just like the final wave of Legacy United, this wave is all* repaints and retools before we get to the good stuff in the spring.

*almost all

So up first, we have the only SS86 figure from the wave, Leader-class Galvatron.  Nothing retooled here; he's strictly a repaint of Kingdom Galvatron.  This might make him a bit of a hard sell for people that bought that version, and perhaps even harder if you bought the Legacy version that didn't have the Siege-esque schmutz on his forearms, chest, and shins.  No remolding means stuff like his chunky proportions and short back spire are still issues.  And his goatee and belt buckle are still unpainted (I might have to pull that sticker off the Kingdom version for SS86's belt).  He comes with the same crappy chain, Matrix, and weird Revenge-shaped guns I didn't need the first time around.

But the colors, man!  I know he's sometimes more purple in Season 3, but when I think "Galvatron" I'm definitely thinking of a bluer shade akin to the SS86 version.   And while I do enjoy the sparkly translucent cannon, I have the toy-colored version for that.  The solid orange is a better match for the cartoon.  The use of gray on places like his knees and shin instead of black isn't just more cartoon-ish, the G1 toy was technically gray there, too.  And the glossy gray face seems to bring out the details better than the metallic silver.  And, again, no schmutz!

Alt mode is mostly the same case.  I very much prefer the bluer purple and the grays instead of lilac and black.  However, in alt mode I do think he loses a bit for not having the metallic paint on the rim around his cannon.

As I alluded to, buying another copy of a Leader-class figure just because the color is different is kind of a tall ask.  In my personal opinion, though, SS86 Galvatron looks so much better than the Kingdom toy that I think it's worth swapping.

Next up, Voyager-class Gamer Edition Skywarp.  Skywarp himself has no mold differences from Starscream, and he comes withe same mace.  However, Starscream's Null Ray has been swapped for a Thermo Rocket Launcher.

I feel like Hasbro's taking advantage of the fact that collectors tend to go for all the Seekers, because compared to Starscream he's a little phoned in.  Like Kingdom Galvatron, the shade of purple they used is too bright and not blue enough.  And he's straight up missing paint apps Starscream had... his toes should be purple, and there should be gray on his shins.  The mechanical details on his forearms aren't painted the way they are on Starscream, either.

Starscream took some flack for his fat cockpit, gaps in his fuselage, and tiny wings (even though the tiny wings are game-accurate).  I personally found Starscream to be one of the better GE figures, though.  So, your mileage may vary, but I don't regret picking up Skywarp and I await the inevitable Thundercracker repaint.

We're finishing off the day in Rise of the Beasts.  First up is Deluxe-class Doublepunch, who is a straight repaint of Scorponok.  Although technically the red one should be Sandstorm, and the blue one should be Doublepunch.  I wonder if Hasbro will eventually release a tannish-green version and call it Sandstorm so we can actually have Scorponok?

If they do, the completionist in me will buy it, but should you?  Like I said, there's no mold changes here, and the blue one was already kind of an awkward robot with unsatisfactory articulation, too much kibble, a waist that doesn't tab in properly, and a tail accessory that attaches oddly to the inside of his forearm.

Alt mode is only marginally better.  Still very limited articulation, but at least this looks like something we saw in the film.  So, no, unless you're a completionist for Rise of the Beasts I can't actually recommend this mold in any color.

Last but not least we have Leader-class Apelinq.  Much like the CGI model in the film, Apelinq is retooled from Optimus Primal.  He's sporting new shoulder pads, new forearm armor, and a new head.  Interestingly, given that Primal usually had a battle mask in the film, I believe the designers actually intend for you to swap the new head onto Primal and give Apelinq the head with a mouth.

Apelinq retains the key to the space bridge, though it's entirely orange now, and the two-part chain accessory that Primal came with.  He loses the axe, though, and in place of Primal's scimitars he has shorter curved blades.  The instructions tell you to connect the chain to them as you can with Primal's scimitars, making something akin to a kusarigama.  The issue, though, is that the chain parts are identical, with a 3mm peg on one end and a 3mm port on the other.  That worked for Primal because one of his scimitars has a 3mm port, the other a 3mm peg.  Both of Apelinq's blades have pegs, though, forcing you to connect the chains on the side of the last link.

Beast mode is the only one of Apelinq's modes to actually appear in the film.  As with his bot mode, the new forearm armor and shoulder pads, as well as the grayer color, help him stand out from Primal.  However, he's also got a new, film-accurate beast head with the same hinged jaw as Primal.

In both modes, you can fold the handles of the blades to sit under his fists, and the blades themselves can plug into notches on the forearm armor to give him his more iconic arm blades.

I already though Primal was a good figure, and I think Apelinq is retooled and repainted just enough to be worthwhile... though, as a character who dies in the opening scene of the film, perhaps not essential.

**I technically have one more figure to go over.  And, while I think he is technically a retool, he's so extensively retooled that I think he'll merit his own review.

Realistically, I'm far more excited for stuff like Age of Extinction Optimus and the 86 Stunticons than anything in this wave.  That said, with a pretty decent Apeling and a (personally) greatly improved Galvatron, plus two weaker figures that at least tickle that completionist itch, I wouldn't say it's the letdown that the final wave of Legacy United was.

 

Edited Friday at 04:13 AM by mikeszekely

[mikeszekely]

2 hours ago, sh9000 said:

 

I really hope Hasbro will be shipping this guy soon.

4 minutes ago, sh9000 said:

Basara Prime.

Ok, that robot actually looks better than I expected.  Need to see the alt mode.  I still think Optimus Prime and Macross 7 is a pretty out-there choice for a crossover when SDF Macross and Jetfire are right there, but it might not be the clustertruck I was expecting.

[lechuck]

More from the T-Spark event – first look at Nucleon Quest Super Convoy.

 

[Valkyrie Hunter D]

I can't get past Predaking using AT-AT heads for shoes.  

[obakesan]

just got my MP/G Ginrai's - and surprised the cab of Ginrai's truck is diecast. definaetly some weight behind it.

[mikeszekely]

On 1/16/2025 at 11:09 PM, mikeszekely said:

**I technically have one more figure to go over.  And, while I think he is technically a retool, he's so extensively retooled that I think he'll merit his own review.

That last figure would be Deluxe-class Dark of the Moon Hatchet.

Let me preface all of this by saying that the history of this mold is weird.  It originally began life as Berserker, from The Last Knight's toyline.  In the earliest days of Studio Series, before Siege came along and sort of raised the bar for Hasbro's figures, Berserker was retooled into Crowbar.  Fair enough; since Berserker's CGI model was largely copied from Crankcase they shared the same alt mode and a lot of design similarities, and Hasbro at least remolded a lot of the robot parts on Crowbar so he was more accurate to Crowbar's CGI model.  The mold would pop up again when Hasbro decided to redeco Crowbar and release it as Studio Series Crankcase- which actually makes him super inaccurate, and one wonders why they didn't redeco the original Berserker version instead.  Regardless, by early 2019, whether you bought both Studio Series Crowbar and Crankcase or you (like me) decided to sub a copy of Berserker for Crankcase, you had two of the three "Dreads" from Dark of the Moon.  It's taken us six years, but finally someone at Hasbro was like, "hey, maybe the Bayverse fans* would like to complete that team?"

*While G1 is still king, there is definitely a large, vocal group of collectors who came up later than most of us here who definitely did very much want this.

Perhaps in an attempt to maintain cohesion with Berserker/Crowbar/Crankcase, Hatchet is again another retool of Berserker.  A lot of the robot parts are new or at least tweaked, while all the alt mode parts are the same.  And, frankly, the result is kind of a mess.  The new parts are kind of phoned in, lacking in some of the basic articulation the original versions of the mold had, and leaving the unmodified car kibble draped awkwardly like it doesn't belong.  The grill of the car just dangling off his butt is visually the most egregious, but the worst is actually the car panels on his forearms, which are only very tentatively tabbed into his arms and come off almost constantly.

Oh, that reminds me... this is his sole accessory.  It's his tail.

And, like I said, articulation is kind of a problem.  His head swivels, but in a quadrupedal stance that equates to 360 degrees of tilt with no ability to look side-to-side.  His jaws open.  His shoulders are on ball joints, but the stems aren't hinged like the original versions.  They're forever stuck in the "shrugged up for transformation" position, leaving them too close together and too far forward on his torso.  It also restricts his lateral shoulder movement to 35-ish degrees.  His elbows bend over 90 degrees, and he does have bicep swivels.  His wrists bend up, but they don't swivel or pivot, so he can't really stand with his front feet flat.  He's got no torso articulation.  His hips are ball joints for swiveling and moving about 45 degrees laterally.  No dedicated thigh swivels, but his knees are ball joints and bend about 90 degrees.  His digitigrade ankles can tilt upward, but like his front paws he's got no pivot.  Combined with the grill of his car dangling back there and getting it the way, it's hard to get him into dynamic poses.

This is further compounded by the fact that he has no tail articulation.  It has a forked tab that you're meant to wedge into the space behind the hinge for the grill kibble.  At best, it just points straight out the back.  But the fit is exceedingly poor, so what're more likely is that you're going to see it falling off.  Constantly.  Just like the kibble on his arms.

Despite the more bestial shape and remolded robot parts transformation is by and large the same as Berserker/Crowbar/Crankcase.  He's a shellformer, so half the transformation is unfolding his backpack.  When you've done that, you straighten his arms and turn them inward so the kibble on his forearms lines up (assuming it hasn't fallen off), then you turn his legs in, straighten them, and bend forward at the hips so the kibble on his calves also lines up.  Then you line up the grill and you're done.  It's easy on paper, but in practice because you're relying on ball joints it's trickier to line everything up than it really needs to be, and that frustration is made worse by the fact that the panels on his arms, which go a long way toward holding the vehicle together, don't like to stay attached to the figure at all.

It is kind of cool, having three different robots that all look so similar in alt mode.  The only way to really tell them apart is the fact that Hatchet's missing the Decepticon badges for some reason (and Crowbar's dreads won't stay hidden under his alt mode).  Hatchet even still has the slots on the rear fenders for spiked club accessories that Berserker and Crowbar came with.

Of course, he doesn't have spiked clubs, just his tail.  As near as I can tell, the forked tab that connects the tail to his butt plugs into a slot created by bringing his hands together under the vehicle, then closing the legs around it.  The instructions really look like they're telling you to do it upside down, but that can't be right because the tab on the tail wouldn't plug into anything and it'd fall back out.

Before Siege came along and elevated what mainline Hasbro Transformers could be it probably made a lot of sense to go back to the then-recent The Last Knight toyline for molds that could be reworked for the fledgling Studio Series.  In 2025, though, it gives us a fiddly, barely-functional mess of a figure.  Remolding Berserker again does have the benefit of keeping the alt mode consistent across all three figures, and maybe that's enough to keep the Bayverse fans who've been wanting this for six years happy.  But at some point in the last six years someone needed to step up and say, "TLK Berseker is kind of old and not-good, maybe we should do new versions of all three Dreads from scratch?"  If you're one of those Bayverse fans who's been waiting over half a decade to complete that freeway chase scene by all means, here's your Hatchet, but everyone else should stay away.

[Tking22]

Rattrap looks awesome! That said, we need more Predacons, Maximals are decently fleshed out for season 1, where's my Waspinator MP?