xrentonx Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 That green and the yellow eyes are great ^^I saw the review on the KO V2 mold and it's pretty impressive. It has a ton more paint apps than the Takara. The only bad thing are those hands... Quote
Gakken85 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) I put the matrix in and forgot to close the doors all the way. You kinda have to snap it closed. Never noticed a huge chest gap other than that though. The KO looks pretty good... they mostly did pretty minor things that Takara couldn't afford to do, or didn't want to do. Covering a screw hole, painting an area here or there. Its like a mildly customized one with a few "duh" fixes. The huge gaps in the arms of the KO, and the overall "airbrushed" look doesn't cut it for me though. It also seems to have gaps and spaces in Alt mode. I think Rocketpunch mention having to lube the legs to make it transform too? I think it's cool if you want a spare one or if the extra silver paint gets you, but I don't see any major improvements besides the hands, but the hands suck on just about all MPs. I can get a hands upgrade set if it ever bothers me that much. If I was going to spend $150 bucks though I'd get a 10b or something. Edited August 25, 2014 by Gakken85 Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 I wasn't impressed with version 1 of the MP-10 KO for the same reasons that Gakken already noted, but version 2 looks very good. I'm thinking of adding it to my prime collection sometime down the line. Quote
Gakken85 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Idk, there are tons of areas on all the MPs that could do with more detailed paint. The inside of Grimlocks wings. Heck you could add a lot more detail to Yamato Valks. When you factor out the costs of design and mould creation, it's pretty easy to go back over somebodies work and paint up a few hundred for a tidy profit. haha. I don't see how the original MP-10 is "sad" because of this. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 no way i'm paying 129 for a ko. i'll get the real thing. Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) MP-10 is a great toy. If it was possible, I would get one copy of all the official repaints. Some are out of my reach, though (Green Lantern Bape). I hope to learn to make my own customs soon, because that will help with my Macross and Transformers nitpicks. This KO is clever and I think Takara could take the MP-10 mold in a similar direction if they really wanted to. Hehe. I would buy it too. Edited August 25, 2014 by technoblue Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Idk, there are tons of areas on all the MPs that could do with more detailed paint. The inside of Grimlocks wings. Heck you could add a lot more detail to Yamato Valks. When you factor out the costs of design and mould creation, it's pretty easy to go back over somebodies work and paint up a few hundred for a tidy profit. haha. I don't see how the original MP-10 is "sad" because of this. +1 Quote
xrentonx Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) If Takara doesn't reissue the MP-10 with trailer, that KO is right up my alley. It looks better to me in bot mode except for the slightly gappy alt mode and the paint helps a lot. I only ever knowingly bought one KO in my life and that is the gold Lambor. I've got 10B but I'm missing an official Optimus Edited August 25, 2014 by xrentonx Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 All this talk of Prime and MP-10 I finally pre-ordered the reissue at BBTS. -b. Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Idk, there are tons of areas on all the MPs that could do with more detailed paint. The inside of Grimlocks wings. Heck you could add a lot more detail to Yamato Valks. When you factor out the costs of design and mould creation, it's pretty easy to go back over somebodies work and paint up a few hundred for a tidy profit. haha. I don't see how the original MP-10 is "sad" because of this. The KO is it's own mold. It's not as easy to see in the v2 video, but the KO stands taller than MP-10. The v1 video has a better comparison between the KO and MP-10. It isn't just a repaint. I think third parties and KOs offer opportunities that HasTak is not interested in pursuing. Look at Omnigonix's not-Sunstreaker in the third-party thread. Having options is a good thing. Quote
Gakken85 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) It's their own mould, that is pretty much an identical copy of the Tak mould. It's like the larger Grimlock KO that's being made. They made it a bit bigger, but the design is virtually identical. They didn't sit down from scratch and work out a unique transformation and articulation, which is where all the hard work exists. I have no problem with KO's, per say, but adding paint doesn't = improvement on the mould. To me this release is more like taking a Takara mould and attaching some 3rd party kits (Chest, Paint/stickers whatever, Leg changes) and then making a unique unit to sell. They are still working off the back of somebody else's work and trying to exploit a market niche for collectors who may want certain changes. I want to call it a "hacked" version. It's not quite a KO, it's not quite a 3rd party or custom but it's a .....frankenPRIME! haha If it works for you by all means by one. It's not like people haven't given Takara plenty of their money in the past haha. It's smart, but it's still a rip off/knock off. It shows the passion people have for these toys. Edited August 25, 2014 by Gakken85 Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 that's true it's modded somewhat and a bit taller... but i'll stick with takara (unless it's 50 bucks... ) Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 It's smart, but it's still a rip off/knock off. It shows the passion people have for these toys. +2 Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) It's smart, but it's still a rip off/knock off. It shows the passion people have for these toys. Word. And I'm a sucker for Prime too. On a totally different note, I picked up the Fanstyle poseable hands for my Nissan Fairlady trio. They really add a nice touch to these toys. I decided to replace Prowl's hands while fixing the tire that had some sloppy silver paint and a few scratches out of the box. The inside rim also needed work, so I had to remove the tire. I will say that the capped pin proved an...interesting...obstacle but I found a nice tutorial on YouTube. Here it is in case anyone else needs the reference: Edited August 25, 2014 by technoblue Quote
Valkyrie2008 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 On a totally different note, I picked up the Fanstyle poseable hands for my Nissan Fairlady trio. They really add a nice touch to these toys. I decided to replace Prowl's hands while fixing the tire that had some sloppy silver paint and a few scratches out of the box. The inside rim also needed work, so I had to remove the tire. I will say that the capped pin proved an...interesting...obstacle but I found a nice tutorial on YouTube. Here it is in case anyone else needs the reference: Nice find, technoblue! a while back, I was trying to find a way to remove the pin from MP-10 Roller wheels. This is very informative and easy to do. Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Nice find, technoblue! a while back, I was trying to find a way to remove the pin from MP-10 Roller wheels. This is very informative and easy to do. Happy to pass it on. Quote
Gakken85 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Offficialuuu 最高傑作 Toransufōmā Starsaaaberrrrrrrrrruuuu update number #37: Yuki tweeted this comparison to the original and the MP: Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 My very first delivery nightmare: I wasn't at home to refuse this one... Sometimes good packaging can help with a rough trip, but not this time... And this is why I always check inside. However, the damage was obvious for poor Screamer... I have a service request in at Captured Prey. In the meantime, I'll find a better box for my return. Grr... Quote
CoreyD Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 I can't see it clearly, where was the non-box damage? Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) The right vertical stabilizer is crushed. I didn't open the plastic clam shell, so there could be more damage. Edit: I've added a better angle of the damage that I can see below without opening the plastic. Edited August 25, 2014 by technoblue Quote
CoreyD Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Oh, I see it now. That really sucks man, I hope you get it resolved. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Dang, for the inner box to bulge that far, I think an elephant sat on it. Or a car drove over it... Quote
technoblue Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Yeah. I'm going to box MP-11 up and try and put it out of my mind. I hope CP's support team is on the ball. I'll let everyone know how things end up. Quote
mikeszekely Posted August 26, 2014 Author Posted August 26, 2014 Your experience isn't helping me feel good about mine, technoblue. Seeing the CP sticker on your box compelled me to check on my order, which was paid for all the way back on 6-7. To recap, I'd ordered a Mania King, and preordered the one of the new run of Hegemon, with an expected ship date of July. When July came and went, I'd asked about Hegemon on Twitter, and they said there was a problem at the factory or something. OK, not their fault. Now it's the end of summer, and I see Hegemon is listed as in stock. (Mania King, BTW, isn't even listed on their site anymore, so I hope to Primus they remembered to put one aside for me since they took my freaking money for it almost three freaking months ago.) I haven't gotten any emails about them shipping, though, and my order status is still sitting at "Paid, pending preorder item" on their website. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 The right vertical stabilizer is crushed. I didn't open the plastic clam shell, so there could be more damage. Edit: I've added a better angle of the damage that I can see below without opening the plastic. broken_stabilizer.png sorry to hear about that. i hope they take care of you. Quote
technoblue Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Heh. Yeah. I worked for the post office in college. Even "gentle" transportation of packages can get rough. It annoys me to NO end when a company advertises professional packaging and then cheaps out with padding and tape. Starscream's shipping box only had two seams sealed with tape. The padding was single layer bubble wrap on the bottom and some paper wrap that wasn't even tucked in properly for the rest of the box. It's no wonder it arrived in any shape other than flat. I also question the use of Parcel Select. Priority Mail comes with free insurance, but the free shipping option is actually this crappy Parcel Select service where you get to wait longer and risk more if some postal worker is having a bad day. On top of it all, I noticed this: We pack your items in sturdy boxes and with sufficient protection to survive shipment. However, on occasion, a package may be abused more than the reasonable and customary amount that is expected during shipping. We cannot be held responsible for damages that occur to items in uninsured packages during shipping. If you have a mail carrier or facility which you know treats your packages in an exceptionally poor manner, please consider insurance coverage for the order. I never had a problem with my post office, but it seems like CP is ready to obsolve itself of all responsibility... Your experience isn't helping me feel good about mine, technoblue. That is messed up. Now I'm worried if I'll get a response. LoL! But I am ready to join your anti-CP club, Mike. Edited August 26, 2014 by technoblue Quote
Gakken85 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) People seem to like CP, but I read that they have problems getting orders in time. But yeah this is common sense for a collectors store. You have to protect that item until it's in their hands or you're losing business. Edited August 26, 2014 by Gakken85 Quote
mikeszekely Posted August 26, 2014 Author Posted August 26, 2014 I didn't receive a reply, but after emailing them I magically got a shipping notice. Quote
technoblue Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Cool. I hope you have better luck than I did, and everything arrives safe and sound. Quote
Valkyrie2008 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) technoblue, I feel your pain for MP Starscream, if that were to happen to me I wouldn't know what I would've done. I've ordered a few items from them before, luckily all my items arrived safe and sound. But i have to agree, they need to put more cushion (like newspaper, it's cheap but effective) to protect the item(s) inside the shipping box. I don't order stuff from them anymore, because they don't offer free shipping like other U.S. websites. Back to MP news: I think the face of MP Saber looks a lot like Mr. Yuki himself, don't you agree Gakken? Edited August 26, 2014 by Valkyrie2008 Quote
Gakken85 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 A little. Gotta put something of yourself into your work I guess Quote
technoblue Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Back to MP news: I think the face of MP Saber looks a lot like Mr. Yuki himself, don't you agree Gakken? Truly. Sorry about my rant/interruption to the normal thread. AAaaND, getting back to the lighter side: Jackie! If the reported date holds, it will be a good day, indeed. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-wheeljack-releasing-on-10-september-181036/ Quote
Valkyrie2008 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Truly. Sorry about my rant/interruption to the normal thread. AAaaND, getting back to the lighter side: Jackie! If the reported date holds, it will be a good day, indeed. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-wheeljack-releasing-on-10-september-181036/ Hey, it's good to share your experience regarding the merchant and express your thoughts. MP Jackie is to be release in two weeks, that's great. I usually preorder MP toys with friends to save on shipping. Edited August 26, 2014 by Valkyrie2008 Quote
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