MacrossJunkie Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I found the super parts for my version 1 RVF-25 which I had misplaced for a while and put them on the corresponding toy. As it was with the valks themselves, it really helped me appreciate the renewal version of the super packs more comparing the two and seeing side-by-side the improvements made. The lack of detail on the version 1 packs and the simplistic build are much more apparent. To me, it feels like the difference between normal LEGOs and Duplo blocks. Snapped some shots of the two together. Quote
Xigfrid Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Hi guys, I got good and bad news! Good: I made a shapeway / scuplteo 3D design of the plastic piece that got broken in the VF-25th guns. I also printed 8 of them to test! Bad: ... but they needed a few drillings to fit in Good: ... and they matched finally! So for now I can provide 6 to whoever need one. I will charge 2 euros for each, plus shipping costs from France or you can directly order a pack of 8 from sculpteo website for 9 euros. And depending of the shipping charges, the costs may vary. Especially for the USA residents. Please send me a PM if you are interested. If there are a lot of American interested, maybe there would be a way to reduce the costs, just let me know of what you think about it. PS: The sketchup file may need to be tweaked to avoid any additional drilling after printing process, that is something I can do if I get more orders. Pictures: Before: After: Edited February 3, 2014 by Xigfrid Quote
Sandman Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 I'd be interested in one depending how the drilling is like (i'm not good at stuff like that). Quote
Xigfrid Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) I already made the drillings for the individual pieces. I used a 2.0mm diameter drill bit, the first hole is easy to do, the second is a bit tricky. I will update the model with a version so that it would be much easier to drill the 2 holes. Edited February 4, 2014 by Xigfrid Quote
YF-29 Durandal Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) I would not try to open up the gun on the VF-25 toys since there is a chance however how small that the plastic will break into pieces. Edited February 4, 2014 by YF-29 Durandal Quote
Gakken85 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Finally sold off my last renewal piece. It was a fun line to dip my toes in but I think I'll pass on it in the future. Might pick up a Ozama reissue if they ever make one for kicks, just to have a vf-25 class. Quote
SaitouSad Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Though with Arcadia's current pricing scheme, I wonder if that would really be something fans would like (not to mention Frontier wouldn't have happened without Bandai right? or did I get that wrong somewhere?)a VF-1 used to be sub 10,000yen pricing. Now, they're up there with the VF-25s' pricing (which is arguably more complicated to make then a VF-1), and this is based off an older mold. Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty well convinced that a good chunk of the VF-25's pricing is caught up in the obscene amount of tampo printing and painting Bandai has to do on each one. Personal dislike about Bandai's design choices and philosophy aside, the VF-25 is not an easy thing to paint, and the paintscheme is probably the most toy-unfriendly scheme on any valk, just because of how many decorated parts are actively rubbing against each other to transform. Actually.. that pretty much applies to anything from Frontier. The paintschemes look cool, but the transformations weren't designed with toys in mind, much less model kits. Edited February 6, 2014 by Chronocidal Quote
close313 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I disagree with your last point. Among all of the macross anime,I believe that frontier valks are designed to be transformable toys from the start. Quote
Reïvaj Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 He didn't say the valks aren't designed to be transformable, he said that the paintschemes aren't designed with toys in mind. I agree with that. Quote
close313 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 He didn't say the valks aren't designed to be transformable, he said that the paintschemes aren't designed with toys in mind. I agree with that. Oh I thought that was his first point. Ok then my bad... Quote
Gakken85 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Really? The VF-25a was one of the most boring valks I've ever seen, and had literally no details. So if we're paying for paint jobs and decoration we're really getting ripped off haha. I've never really been impressed by a frontier's paint job. Edited February 6, 2014 by Gakken85 Quote
Kyp Durron Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Not a fan of the cannon fodder paint schemes, I see. Quote
Gakken85 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I saw the work a macross member did. It was missing some striping and decoration that was in the show. I thought it was cheap. Quote
NightCastle Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I saw the work a macross member did. It was missing some striping and decoration that was in the show. I thought it was cheap. The work the macross member did or the valk? Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Heh, I mostly just mean that the way the valks were decorated didn't go well with the idea of any kind of toy. If you want to build a transforming toy to last, you design it to use the least amount of paint possible around any moving parts, so it won't scratch off with repeated transformations. You can get around things a little by molding parts in color, but the VF-25 just has little painted bits absolutely everywhere, especially on the parts that have to move and scrape against each other. Anything in the VF-25/27/29 family is just notoriously bad at this, because they designed the entire chest around a "move things around until one part loosely rests against another part and things kinda stay" mechanism, while all the parts involved also involve painted markings that are going to scrape off at some point regardless of how careful you are. Quote
Gakken85 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 The work the macross member did or the valk? The work the macross memeber did was great. He brought it up to the level that it should have been at release. I forget his name. Quote
Reïvaj Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 You are not allowed to forget MacrossJunkie! Quote
Gakken85 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I can't remember all the crap I forget. haha But yeah, that looks good. They skimped out on a lot of detail. Quote
YF-29 Durandal Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Though with Arcadia's current pricing scheme, I wonder if that would really be something fans would like (not to mention Frontier wouldn't have happened without Bandai right? or did I get that wrong somewhere?) a VF-1 used to be sub 10,000yen pricing. Now, they're up there with the VF-25s' pricing (which is arguably more complicated to make then a VF-1), and this is based off an older mold. Expensive plastic is expensive or thats what I have been told. Quote
Matt Random Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Plastic is cheap. Even better quality plastic isn't that expensive. Arcadia is increasing the prices so that they make a profit. Given that Yamato went under it stands to reason that the prices they were charging may not have been enough to cover the cost of designing, manufacturing and distributing their products. Yes, $200-300 for a mostly plastic transforming toy is a lot of money. But at least Arcadia is willing to take a chance and continue producing these things. Edited February 7, 2014 by Matt Random Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 So...uh Tornado Parts yet? 25S or 25G reissue? New design? Glad that Bandai is spacing these out, but I'm starting to feel some YF-29 fatigue. -b. Quote
technoblue Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Indeed, the fatigue got to me. I broke down and purchased a VF-25F renewal off of Mandarake. This will be my first VF-25 and I was also curious about Mandarake after hearing about all the good deals. Quote
skullmilitia Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Bandai is also a world wide multi million dollar company. Where as Arcadia is a small Japanese only company. We can stop comparing prices now! Quote
Tking22 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Is there anywhere still selling super parts for the renewal 25A other than Ebay? I finally got myself locked in on my first VF-25, now it's time to dress it up and make it da bell of da ball. Quote
sreichma Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Think I found a great reason for the Alto Ex Gear in 1/60 scale with the 25F. It recreates the SLAVE scene from the final episode. Edited February 7, 2014 by sreichma Quote
VF-Zer0S Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Is there anywhere still selling super parts for the renewal 25A other than Ebay? I finally got myself locked in on my first VF-25, now it's time to dress it up and make it da bell of da ball. http://www.nippon-yasan.com/lang-en/macross/6193-macross-f-super-parts-set-for-dx-chogokin-vf-25a-messiah-valkyrie-regular-limited-edition.html Quote
VF-Zer0S Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I'm think about getting my first bandai Valkyrie. Just got some funds and I'm ready to get back into this hobby. Problem is I've always loved the yf-29 alto use but looks like it's really over priced. Should I just buy the YF-29 or buy the 25F and wait for a reissue of the 29 alto ? Quote
sreichma Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I'd get the 25F Alto. It's Iconic and a great piece with tight joints. The 29 Alto was the first 29 and seems to have joints that get very loose. Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Actually, I'm pretty sure every Bandai valk will get loose joints eventually. It's something about the way they're made, I think, but Bandai's joints just don't seem to hold up over time. Doesn't mean they aren't very pretty though, and they come with a stand to hold them up. I'd go for whichever one you like, and can afford. Keep an eye out on the "For Sale" section on the boards here, sometimes people will have some great deals on some hard to find stuff. Edited February 7, 2014 by Chronocidal Quote
NightCastle Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 The work the macross memeber did was great. He brought it up to the level that it should have been at release. I forget his name. Cool. I was just wanting to make certain I understood you correctly. Thanks. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I'm think about getting my first bandai Valkyrie. Just got some funds and I'm ready to get back into this hobby. Problem is I've always loved the yf-29 alto use but looks like it's really over priced. Should I just buy the YF-29 or buy the 25F and wait for a reissue of the 29 alto ? Go for the 25A, sure the 25F is more iconic for being piloted by Alto but from a dollar value perspective you can't beat the much improved quality of the 25A release. And it's still fairly available at decent prices (from $ 130 to $ 160 + shipping). -b. Quote
mechaninac Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I can't remember all the crap I forget. I just love this quote!... it's brilliant, in a redundantly memory-lacking way. Quote
close313 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Depends on which colour scheme you like. If you love flashy ones go for Alto, if not, VF-25A is the way to go. Plus if you're going the A route, it's easier to get the super parts at a reasonable price. OR if you want something more interesting, consider an RVF-25. Both the valk and the super parts with ghosts should still be easy to get. Edited February 8, 2014 by close313 Quote
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