Archer Posted September 2, 2012 Posted September 2, 2012 Wow, that sucks man! Yeah, with all the steps forward Bandai's been taking, it still disappointing to see so many blunders that could be remedied quite easily, yet are so structurally important. Quote
Chronocidal Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Wow, it broke? I've had enough problems with the pins that if I transform the toy to/from Battroid I completely remove the wings/pins first so they're out of the way. Actually, I did the same thing, but that's what caused it to break. See, the big fat pin isn't want broke. That's fine. It's that itty-bitty white nub that the wing actually pivots around that snapped. Every time you actually remove the wings, you have to remove the main pins, and then pop them off those nubs. Well, I wouldn't recommend doing that anymore. Like I said, once I get the actual wings, I'm gluing the big pegs in, drilling out the white nubs, and replacing them with screws. I wish I could shove the plain wings down the throat of whatever dingbat at Bandai thought what they did was anything approaching a good idea. Quote
mass driver Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Sweet. Once I get the EX gear, that 171 is never going to be naked again. Edited September 22, 2012 by mass driver Quote
nanoplasm Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 If you still need to order the armored pack, the GB is finally up. Deadline is the 7th of October. Quote
drake Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 just want to know if the poped off pin wing are the common issue here, i have mine too every times i fold and unfold the wing and it's really frustating Quote
kanedaestes Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah it's common. Many have said that once the armor pack comes out they are gluing them in place especially since this model was never actually seen without armor in the show. Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 What's the release date for the armor/weapons pack again? Sometime in November? Quote
Chronocidal Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 December I believe sadly.. so meh. As for the wing pins.. honestly I didn't have as much of a problem with the big pins as I did with the tiny ones the wings hinge on. Mine just flat out snapped off, so now the only thing holding my wing on is the big fat pin, which isn't even the rotation point. Absolutely the worst wing pivot design in history. Quote
Valkyrie Magnus Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I have been lucky with mine. The pins on my wings are holding up really well . Knock on wood. Quote
jenius Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 It seems like Bandai SHOULD be able to do something about the wings in their armored parts release since. I don't know what the fix would be exactly but since we get whole new wings I'm hoping they do something to address those stupid pegs. At the very least, if the pegs were locked into the wing so the whole wing fell off instead of a hard to find peg that'd be a step in the right direction. Quote
Chronocidal Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I'd be plenty happy if they'd have realized how stupidly simple it would have been to make it so the pegs twist and lock after you put them in. I mean come on.. it looks like they were planning that already, what with the pseudo-slot for a screwdriver. Once I get the hardpointed wings though, I might not even need those pegs. I'm going to be drilling out the remains of those tiny hinge nubs, and replacing them with a screw (AKA attaching the wings like Yamato did on the VF-17). Quote
Loop Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) I'd be plenty happy if they'd have realized how stupidly simple it would have been to make it so the pegs twist and lock after you put them in. I mean come on.. it looks like they were planning that already, what with the pseudo-slot for a screwdriver. Once I get the hardpointed wings though, I might not even need those pegs. I'm going to be drilling out the remains of those tiny hinge nubs, and replacing them with a screw (AKA attaching the wings like Yamato did on the VF-17). Or..... they could have just designed the damn thing with the hard points on the wing and made the wings none removable. I don't understand why they decided to make such an off the wall decision. Thanks for the pic of the armor, looks so sexuh. Edited October 26, 2012 by Loop Quote
kanedaestes Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 It's because of a Yamato lawsuit last I heard Quote
Mommar Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Or..... they could have just designed the damn thing with the hard points on the wing and made the wings none removable. I don't understand why they decided to make such an off the wall decision. I suppose the argument is that some people like the "clean" look without the hard points but others want to have the missiles loaded up. So they tried to make both parties happy with some very poor engineering as the solution. It also means they sell more accessories because each wing with hard points is unique. Quote
jenius Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 It's because of a Yamato lawsuit last I heard Was that just speculation? I don't think Yamato invented hard points. They may have a locking technique they patented but i'm sure there's lots of ways to handle that. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 It's because of a Yamato lawsuit last I heard guys that was a joke Quote
aceoftherebellion Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Jokes and fiction are better than reality as long as they sound plausible enough! Quote
Reïvaj Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 It's because of a Yamato lawsuit last I heard guys that was a joke Oh Andrew, you joker! Quote
Chronocidal Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Yeah, Bandai has no freaking excuse for not having hardpoints. They did it on the Hi-Metal VF-1 with no trouble. I just do not understand what kind of mental case thought that the wing design they came up with was anything even nearly satisfactory. Hardpoints or not, the wing design is one of the worst fubar's I've ever seen in toy engineering. It's just pants-on-head stupid. As for requiring extra wings for hardpoints.. yeah, I will never understand that mentality as long as I live. If they're included like on the VF-1? Sure. But charging extra for a feature that was in pretty much every single instance of that aircraft being on screen is just asinine. Quote
jenius Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Someone at Bandai just hates how hard points look when you aren't using the missiles. Quote
Reïvaj Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 In case any of you guys is still interested in grabbing one of these, they are on sale at N-Y! http://www.nippon-yasan.com/lang-en/macross/1688-dx-chogokin-macross-f-frontier-vf-171ex-nightmare-plus-ex-saotome-alto-custom.html Quote
mass driver Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Probably in anticipation of the demand for the cannon fodder. Well good things go to those who wait in this case. Quote
Reïvaj Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Probably in anticipation of the demand for the cannon fodder. Well good things go to those who wait in this case. Even on sale it’s still a bit more expensive than what I paid when I pre ordered it. Quote
mass driver Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 You were probably lucky enough to get one from HLJ or hobbysearch or animeexport.. I went through nippon yasan and it was 203 when I preordered it. I should've shopped around but that was before I was aware of the different prices. Quote
Reïvaj Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) You were probably lucky enough to get one from HLJ or hobbysearch or animeexport.. I went through nippon yasan and it was 203 when I preordered it. I should've shopped around but that was before I was aware of the different prices. I got mine from Nippon-Yasan too and it was $168,77 + shipping. Edited November 14, 2012 by Reïvaj Quote
xrentonx Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Got both of mine through HLJ @ 12880. Nippon-Yasan played the price game with me on the last purchase so they're relegated to final-recourse-emergency-can't-find-anywhere-else orders only. Quote
Firefox Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Got both of mine through HLJ @ 12880. Nippon-Yasan played the price game with me on the last purchase so they're relegated to final-recourse-emergency-can't-find-anywhere-else orders only. How do you get them through HLJ? Couldn't even see them listing on the site Quote
mass driver Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 I got mine from Nippon-Yasan too and it was $168,77 + shipping. Lucky! Too bad the US dollar to yen exchange was horrible then. I paid 16000 yen + 3600 yen for shipping. The toy itself was already 200 dollars due to the exchange rate. Yeah for uncle sam. Quote
Chronocidal Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Since yes, it technically is December now, yes. However, remember: "December release!" actually means "Last possible day of December release!" We won't be getting them until well into the new year. Quote
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