Mommar Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) I'm wondering if I'll get either of my orders. I could only grab them at iShop2Go and BBTS... neither are having great track records with this Bandai BS. Really, I think the biggest problem with all of this is that Bandai doesn't care and monetarily doesn't have to care. Yamato are dealing in the classics, they know there's a world wide audience and that their bottom line depends on as many fans as possible getting their hands on it. Bandai is huge. They have huge divisions. They have huge properties outside of Japan that bring them money. Macross is relatively niche in Japan, and cannot be exported. They can make enough to satisfy the Japanese and not care. So for this, the other renewals and the 29 they probably don't even pay attention to the people outside Japan because legally and monetarily it makes no sense for them to. Edited May 29, 2012 by Mommar Quote
anime52k8 Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 The sellers on eBay offering this and the VF-25/YF-29 for $400~$600 are actually fronts for Bandai. Quote
ron5864 Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 The sellers on eBay offering this and the VF-25/YF-29 for $400~$600 are actually fronts for Bandai. Ridiculous prices. Next, they will want a liver or lung on top of the $399 price. Quote
Dimis Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Ridiculous prices. Next, they will want a liver or lung on top of the $399 price. I'm sorry to say the controversial thing but do you check what the prices in Japan itself are now? 30000 YEN for VF-25F (about $350) and 20000 YEN for YF-29. The price for VF-25F probably sounds even more ridiculous if you live in Japan! Edited May 30, 2012 by Dimis Quote
mechaninac Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Simple solution to the high price on these things: Don't buy them, don't pay for them. There is a limited supply, but the real culprit is an out-of-control demand... scalpers know this, as do some retailers, and they'll make you pay. If most people had a modicum of self restraint the scalpers would be sitting on a pile of stock and prices would drop. The only reason they can charge these sky high prices is because fanboys keep buying. To this day I have not dipped my toe into Yamato's latest M7 offerings for that very reason, 250-280 and up before shipping is just too much... insultingly so, to me anyway. I know it's a double edged sword; if not enough people pay retail for the item the manufacturer will stop producing and we won't ever see any more of these toys, and if the manufacturers charge too much they run the risk of driving off their customers. All the power is in the hands of the consumer... make a good product at a decent price and people will shell out the cash; if not, you run the risk of pricing yourself out of the market, even without competitors. Just my 2 cents worth of venting. Quote
Kurisama Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I agree with you absolutely. The new m7 valks prices are a joke. No valk is worth that. Not by a long shot. I waited years for a reasonable price for the v2 VF-1's. Got my first 1/60s this time last year, and on sale. Glad I did. Quote
Tochiro Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Orders just went back up on Amazon japan via a number of 3rd party sellers but are going fast! Secured one for 17900yen. Quote
ron5864 Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I will wait until Bandai comes out with the cannon fodder NUNS VF-171. That I will gladly hand over my $$$ over for. Quote
Reïvaj Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Still up for pre orders here: http://www.nippon-yasan.com/lang-en/figurines-others/1688-dx-chogokin-macross-f-frontier-vf-171ex-nightmare-plus-ex-saotome-alto-custom.html Quote
Mommar Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 How likely is it at this point Nippon Yasan can even fill them? Quote
ErikElvis Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I don't believe in god but Im praying anyway for the CF 171. Its one of my favorite colors/designs Quote
Reïvaj Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 How likely is it at this point Nippon Yasan can even fill them? They say they can and they will. But who knows. I've got a pre order with them so I can tell you later. Quote
m0n5t3r Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 yeah +1 for the CF if i'm ever going to get a 171. i'm trying to stay away from white valks from now on... Quote
Mommar Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 They say they can and they will. But who knows. I've got a pre order with them so I can tell you later. I've already got two that don't seem likely. I'd rather not add a third. Quote
Mommar Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 Nippon Yasan is already asking for payment for the 171. Quote
Hikuro Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 Ordered mine just recently from there. But it's an uncleared payment. Wont clear till end of the week if I'm lucky. But good thing I decided to pay upfront on it! Quote
Matt Random Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 yeah +1 for the CF if i'm ever going to get a 171. i'm trying to stay away from white valks from now on... Same here. I'd definitely be more tempted by the CF scheme. I'm sure Bandai isn't going to the trouble of designing and tooling this just for a single release. Quote
Macette Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 When is the official release date for this? the 15th of this month IIRC? Quote
Macette Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 Damn....guess i have to wait even longer now.... Quote
Murphy Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 looking at that i really hope amiami and hlj can fulfill my preorder. Quote
ErikElvis Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 What do you think the odds are that if I pay for my 171 from nippon yasan that i preordered like 2 weeks ago Ill actually get it. And not have to wait 2 weeks or more to get my money back. Quote
Mommar Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 I already went ahead and paid them so hopefully that won't happen to me. Quote
UN Spacy Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Anyone know if this will be as beefy as Yamato's variant? Quote
Reïvaj Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Not sure about that, but I can tell you it'll be big. Quote
anime52k8 Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 in that case, how big is a Renewal VF-25? (seriously, I don't have one ). Quote
pud333 Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 in that case, how big is a Renewal VF-25? (seriously, I don't have one ). Excuse the crappy iphone picture, but this should give you an idea. Quote
Tober Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) in that case, how big is a Renewal VF-25? (seriously, I don't have one ). Stands 25cm to the top of the head, 28cm to top of the lasers. Hmmm... My VF-25F is suffering from the same loose hips as the YF-29. Edited June 16, 2012 by Tober Quote
Chronocidal Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Seriously? I want to slap the dipwads at Bandai for their diecast fetish. Nothing good ever comes from it. Quote
ultraman zoffy Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Hmmm... My VF-25F is suffering from the same loose hips as the YF-29. Mine was starting to have the same issue, so I gave it the glue treatment. Looseness is unfortunately inevitable with all the ball/friction joints on these Bandai valks. This clip should help; quality is kinda funky, but you get the general idea of how to deal with the loose joint issue. When fixing the looseness on VF-25 hips, I didn't bother disassembling them. Just a dab on the outer portion of the ball joint and working it around seemed to work fine: Edited June 16, 2012 by ultraman zoffy Quote
Tober Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Mine was starting to have the same issue, so I gave it the glue treatment. Looseness is unfortunately inevitable with all the ball/friction joints on these Bandai valks. This clip should help; quality is kinda funky, but you get the general idea of how to deal with the loose joint issue. When fixing the looseness on VF-25 hips, I didn't bother disassembling them. Just a dab on the outer portion of the ball joint and working it around seemed to work fine: Thanks zoffy. Quote
VF5SS Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Guys it's like one screw to get at the balljoint. I just used a little electrical tape and it was fine. Quote
Jasonc Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Paid for my preorder of this, and I don't really even want it. I couldn't cancel it, or I'd lose some other preorders I had that I do want, so we'll see how this plays out. Quote
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