boyarque Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Well, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this...if it's mine, then it's mine...if not...well, there are others... Nitey nite guys! Quote
moncikoma Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-2281&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dmacross%24pagemax%3D100%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1 http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIG-IPN-3301&page=top http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN973673 http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN975641 SOLD OUT IN 2MINUTE.... seriously??? this is conspiracy dr bandai...i knew it... Quote
Kelsain Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, this is seriously fd up. What a sh1tty way to treat your customers. I was starting to get interested in gundam again, but if this is how bandai is doing things now, I'll give my $$ to TT Hongli for their KOs. (null) Quote
Lolicon Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 F U BANDAI. Preorders open for like 5 minutes overnight? Wonderful. Some of us have to actually sleep and work in the mornings. Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) This is REALLY fraked up. Are Bandai only producing six of these things? Anybody from China/Japan see some of these other Bandai Valks sitting around a few shops? I think some of us who have to be asleep will need to organize a group buy in order to get one of these if they can be found locally. I also hate the fact this board automatically changed the word I used to "fraked" instead because that word sounds weak and doesn't nearily emphasize the type of boning some of us are getting. Edited March 1, 2012 by Mommar Quote
Matrix Soul Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Well, to be a devil's advocate, AmiAmi is mainly to serve Japanese customers, so for them, the activation time isn't the middle of the night. They are not missing sleep over it. Quote
OmegaD3k Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) <Sarcasm> I’d just like to say thank you to Bandai for being a very profitable partner for all eBay scalpers out there, who are LOLing on their way to the banks right now. .</End Sarcasm> The demand for these figures is massive. The least they could have done was offer more than just 5 per online shop. More like 50 - and even then they'd still be all sold out. Going to have to dig deep in the wallet once these are up on eBay.. (edit: clarification) Edited March 1, 2012 by OmegaD3k Quote
Kelsain Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I realize that, but a 20 minute window globally for preorders from multiple vendors? Even the native customers get screwed. (null) Quote
Lolicon Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) The fact that it happened in the middle of the night isn't what's really pissing people off. Being available for scarcely 5 minutes is what's ticking me and others off. Japanese aren't limited to a handful of online shops like we are, and those shops have English sections for a reason. Also, HLJ was started to serve international customers. Nice try, though. Edited March 1, 2012 by Lolicon Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, waking up in the morning and discovering you didn't stand a chance in hell (not even a lot of the people awake at the time made it) because Bandai grossly underestimated demand is what sucks. I only hope there weren't too many jumpers at ishop2go because the price was so steep. Quote
valid Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 me want one!! dear macross god!! please give me one!!! Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 What a relief that I don't like the VF-171!! My money will go for the VF-17D instead Quote
mechaninac Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Well, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this...if it's mine, then it's mine...if not...well, there are others... Exactly. I was more than willing to pre-order this sucker, even at near full MSRP, but Bandai's under production/under supplying of retailers means I'll be saving myself around $200+ that I can spend on other stuff or just not spend at all. Edited March 1, 2012 by mechaninac Quote
Lolicon Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Well grats to those who managed to snag one. For the rest of us, we'll just have to console ourselves with one of Yamato's offerings later this year. Quote
Dutch Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I just hope Yamato doesn't start copying Bandai's 5 minute pre-order antics. Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I wonder if there's this same raging love for the 171 inside Japan as there is for a lot of us outside. Domestically is this lukewarm and it turns out it's just all of us in the international market who are clamoring? Will Bandai get reports about the amount of preorders and increase production? Quote
Kelsain Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Healthy attitude, lolicon. Maybe seeing the strategy here will help when (hope upon hope) the teal 171 is announced. Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue. (or take my last dose of habit forming rx...) (null) Quote
reeoyuy Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 If I have a company that produces toy, I'd rather underestimate demand than overestimate and creating too many to sell. Also, that conspiracy theory about Bandai conspiring wit ebay scalper is ridiculous, since Bandai never really care about customers abroad. Quote
funkymonkeyjavajunky Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 So, just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many of these toys are produced with an original release? Seems to me like one or two thousand considering very few people can even place an order. Just my two cents... Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 If I have a company that produces toy, I'd rather underestimate demand than overestimate and creating too many to sell. Also, that conspiracy theory about Bandai conspiring wit ebay scalper is ridiculous, since Bandai never really care about customers abroad. There's a difference between underestimating and grossly underestimating to the point you piss off customers and they never want to do business with you again. Quote
Lolicon Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Not making money is not making money, whether it's because you produce too many or produce way too few. Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 That's the thing. If they only make a few they'll say "eh, we only made a little money" and move on without realizing they'd sell a lot more if they met demand. Quote
eugimon Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 If you look at the release date, chances are bandai already finished their run. They're just selling what they already made. Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Which is kind of dumb. Essentially they finsihed producing before advertising so they didn't even know what demand would be like before they made them. Quote
CF18 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I will just look at the high-res photos for now. There are quite a bit of photoshopping going on: B mode pic 1: We should see more stuff on the tip of the wings instead of all white. G mode pic: You can see something between the legs, probably the display stand. Edited March 1, 2012 by CF18 Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I wish Bandai could just have shops and dealers go forth and take as many pre-orders as they can for x amount of days/weeks. Then start manufacturing and do whatever they need to schedule the factories to produce enough to fill the pre-orders plus a little extra to go stores and such for those who miss pre-order while it was being done. They could then set the release date based on how long it will take for them to manufacture and assemble the toys and get them out. That way they wouldn't be leaving money on the table by not producing enough to meet demand or way over producing beyond what the demand is. I mean isn't that what they're essentially doing with their web exclusives already? Edited March 1, 2012 by MacrossJunkie Quote
Kelsain Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Miss the 171ex? Sorry, we only made 12... Can I interest you in this Gundam? It's practically the same color! (null) Quote
505thAirborne Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Wow, sold out already and the tools on Ebay who have them are asking $249 & $299.00 for a VF-171. WTF?? Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, I noticed ebay is already filling up with people selling their pre-orders. What a bunch of pricks. Quote
505thAirborne Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, I noticed ebay is already filling up with people selling their pre-orders. What a bunch of pricks. Word! Quote
Reïvaj Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I will just look at the high-res photos for now. There are quite a bit of photoshopping going on: B mode pic 1: We should see more stuff on the tip of the wings instead of all white. G mode pic: You can see something between the legs, probably the display stand. You're right. The low-res battroid mode photo showed what I think it was a bit of the display stand and that's why we see white wing tips now. Edited March 1, 2012 by Reïvaj Quote
pud333 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I posted this on another forum, so Ima gonna copy past here... I woke up his morning with a smile on my face knowing I got a preorder in. Then that smile soon faded as I realized I am going to have to go through this gong show every-single-time going forward with any of Bandai's Frontier releases. It was absolutely crazy last night. And from the looks of the comments after I went to bed, it doesn't seem like it got any better. It got even crazier in fact. Say what you want about Yamato: at least you know that if it sells well, there will be a reissue within a few months. Then another reissue after that. And another. So long as it keeps selling well, Yamato will keep producing. With Bandai, it sells well, then there is nothing. For months and months and months. And if there is a reissue, it's gone in a flash. Just look at how long it took to reissue the YF-29. It makes me a little depressed. It's like trying to score SDCC exclusives on HTS. Only instead of once a year, this is going to happen several times a year with each release. I gotta seriously consider if I want to continue with this BS, or just wait until Yamato has access to the Frontier license - if ever. The only advantage I had was the fact that I was on the west coast. It was 11:08 PM PST that I got mine, so I didn't have to stay up too late... Quote
falcon14141 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I kinda miss the Web-exclusives thingies, as they are in the end easier to get than regular items... Edited March 1, 2012 by falcon14141 Quote
Major Tom Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 For members in Japan, you can still order at Hobbyone at regular price: http://item.rakuten.co.jp/hobbyone/4543112756411/ Goodluck Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) wow...WTF. i thought a twice daily check would be enough. i havea feeling there is a whole network of people contracted to buy these things the minute the go up and put them on ebay. this sold out WAY quicker than the vf-25's or the YF-29. ridiculous. no other options for US buyers huh? i'm steamed Edited March 1, 2012 by Mechapilot77 Quote
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