Graham Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'd really like a highly detailed Coyote Tango or Striker Eureka toy. I'm actually kinda Meh on the Gypsy Danger design. And why were the F-22's shown firing guns from both sides of the plane? And why did the F-22's only do absolute point blank range gun attacks instead of stand off attacks with guided bombs and missiles? I'm sure a couple of 1,000lb JDAM launched from stand off range would have been more effective than a stream of 20mm shells fired from when you are in range of the Kaiju's claws I guess I shouldn't think about this too much And why no A-10s? Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I guess I shouldn't think about this too much This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Apparently the Kaijus were impervious to standard bullets and missiles. But then again, it's better to check the analytical mind at the door when watching this movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'm waiting on a chogokin or hot toys gypsy danger Huh, Horizon Brave runs on Linux and Netflix. I'd really like to see this again on the big screen, but I don't see the timing working out this week. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 @Graham and @raptormesh, There's nothing wrong with thinking about this film critically, but just realize that like every other movie which provokes these same kinds of questions one should understand the point behind showing what they did. The opening montage was to show the audience the inadequacy of the conventional military as succinctly as possible. Like all films, the trick is to limit the exposition Btw, they did not state in the film the Kaiju were impervious; quite the opposite. They "eventually" killed the first of the Kaiju. But as was stated in film, the losses suffered BEFORE they killed the Kaiju was enormous. A deadlier weapon was required to kill Kaiju before entire cities were lost; hence, the Jaegers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 According the wiki the first few Kaijus had to be defeated with nuclear arsenal hence the massive devastation of major cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN_MARINE Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 It's a "Super Robot" trope - every piece of conventional hardware is ineffective, therefore: Giant Robots! it needs no more logic beyond that. The sword scene is also part of it, has anybody seen an episode of Voltron where they go for the Blazing Sword right off the bat? I love this movie, I need it on BD. (We got gypped with an alternate dub, I need to see it with its original/western audio track.) I put it in the Super Robot category - "just enough hand-wave, not too much hard science". If I had anything to complain about, it's that the movie was pretty tame when it came to upping the ante on "Ultimate Weapon". I found some things silly. There'd be no way an 80 meter tall mech would survive crashing into the sea, and other things that defy physics, like "10 diesel engines per muscle strand". But hey, "Super Robot rules". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 The "because analog" explaination is about the worst incidence of "we think our audience are morons" moment in the entire script. That's not a hand wave; that's a hand slap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelGundam2099 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Hey, Duke agrees with RL1 and me! has anybody seen an episode of Voltron where they go for the Blazing Sword right off the bat? It's been so long I don't remember, but I know that did not happen in Golion. Edited July 22, 2013 by DuelGundam2099 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane70 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I remember Blazing Sword always being a last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syngyne Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 The "because analog" explaination is about the worst incidence of "we think our audience are morons" moment in the entire script. That's not a hand wave; that's a hand slap. Yeah, that had me rolling my eyes. Those holographic displays ain't running on gears & springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) The "because analog" explaination is about the worst incidence of "we think our audience are morons" moment in the entire script. That's not a hand wave; that's a hand slap. Lol, I just assumed they meant some other kind of analog. As for the sword thing I figured it was a new addition that he forgot about because he wasn't used to it on the old Gipsy Danger and she forgot about cuz she was caught up in her first battle. Edited July 22, 2013 by Raptor One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I saw it and it was exactly what I expected, so I enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobizon Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Guillermo del Toro Confirms Pacific Rim 2 and Spills Some Ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'd have thought that military hardware like the Jaegers would be hardened against EMP, but then I guess they weren't expecting that the Kaiju would have an EMP weapon. And yes, I groaned out loud about the analog thing as well. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 The sword didn't bother me nearly as much. I took it as being a new addition that Raleigh didn't know about. Mako was too new and overwhelmed by everything to remember right away. Obviously contrived but plausible enough. Basic logic would be to put those plasma casters and missiles on every Jaegar and use stand off / ranged tactics unless surprised. I definitely want to catch it at least once more in the theater, both for support and to catch some detail maybe in an IMAX showing. Hope it lasts another couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 エルボー・ロケット！！！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 As much as I love the movie I don't really need to see a sequel, especially when they tie it off neatly. I say just do something within the same genre and use the same creative team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I think that goes to my single biggest nit with the movie's plot. I wish it hadn't been the major ultimate go through the rift business. Just a day in the life of Jaegars fighting Kaiju before/without the wall silliness or the major category 4/5 Kaiju. The cat 3 vs Mark I/II seems like it would have been exciting enough for an intro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I need to watch it again with the Japanese dub. Sounds 1000x more GAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Poor Knifehead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Actually i would buy kaiju plushies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_foul_fowl Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just watched this today. Really awesome film, it hit all the right notes if you're a anime fan! Props to the art and visual fx department! The angles really gave it a great sense of scale too. I could see this having an anime adaptation really easily. Saw in it regular 2D, but it seems like 3D IMAX is the way to go. Wish I had read the posts here before watching, but didn't want to spoil myself just in case. Oh, and this: I've seen this film three times, yet one scene has been bothering me for days: Was the Mako introduction scene originally supposed to be in Japanese? Because the dialogue was obviously dubbed over in English. Even Raleigh was "dubbed over", giving the impression that he was originally speaking to Mako in Japanese. Apparently yes, according to Kotaku: http://kotaku.com/pacific-rims-most-emotional-line-was-left-untranslated-789403352 That sounds really awesome. Unfortunately, in my theatre, it was dubbed over, so it looked really weird and out of sync, and totally lost its intended effect. This is a must-buy Blu Ray for me, whatever special edition gets released. I do hope the line above doesn't get dubbed over.. and would it be too hard to wish for a Japanese track too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Apparently yes, according to Kotaku: http://kotaku.com/pacific-rims-most-emotional-line-was-left-untranslated-789403352 That sounds really awesome. Unfortunately, in my theatre, it was dubbed over, so it looked really weird and out of sync, and totally lost its intended effect. This is a must-buy Blu Ray for me, whatever special edition gets released. I do hope the line above doesn't get dubbed over.. and would it be too hard to wish for a Japanese track too? In Italy that scene is definitely in Japanese with subtitles. Mako says something in Japanese to Pentecost and Raleigh responds in Japanese. Don't know why they dubbed it over in English. Perhaps they thought it may have been too much for the "average person"? Bah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkenstein Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just watched this today. Really awesome film, it hit all the right notes if you're a anime fan! Props to the art and visual fx department! The angles really gave it a great sense of scale too. I could see this having an anime adaptation really easily. Saw in it regular 2D, but it seems like 3D IMAX is the way to go. Wish I had read the posts here before watching, but didn't want to spoil myself just in case. Oh, and this: Apparently yes, according to Kotaku: http://kotaku.com/pacific-rims-most-emotional-line-was-left-untranslated-789403352 That sounds really awesome. Unfortunately, in my theatre, it was dubbed over, so it looked really weird and out of sync, and totally lost its intended effect. This is a must-buy Blu Ray for me, whatever special edition gets released. I do hope the line above doesn't get dubbed over.. and would it be too hard to wish for a Japanese track too? This is really surprising. The theater I went to had the subtitles and no dubbing. What would be the point of doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negotiator Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 There were a couple lines that had subs here in the US. At least in Cali. Were they dubbed over for other regions too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Weird that they dubbed it. I wonder how they choose which location gets the dubbed version. The whole point of the exchange was to show that Raleigh was more worldly or more than just a dumb grunt by being able to understand Japanese. Which contradicts the beginning where he talks about him and his brother not being good at anything else but piloting Jaegers. Maybe going around building walls allowed him to learn languages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Here in HK, we also got the dubbed over version Anyway, definitely buying this on bluray when it's out. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I guess this means I'll hunt down the U.S. Blu-Ray release, as international releases will most likely have those scenes dubbed over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Missed it entirely. Don't recall any obvious dubbing. Want to catch it again this weekend, if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangard Ace Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Wasn't dubbed over in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefuemon Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 In 2 weeks, I'll tell you the Japanese version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Frak. Missed out on the 18" Gipsy Danger preorder at Ami. Seems like a good deal considering the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Frak. Missed out on the 18" Gipsy Danger preorder at Ami. Seems like a good deal considering the price. Still available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Wasn't dubbed over in Canada. Saw it in Canada the first time... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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