VF5SS Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) They added some Grenade Launcher Launchers to the legs Edited October 2, 2012 by VF5SS Quote
Kurisama Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 ^ This... I literally just got mine in the mail about 10 mins ago and noticed this - and I don't mind it at all. I dig. I guess I can make this too when I make the 1/60 armour for the VF-0's :3 Quote
sketchley Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 They added some Grenade Launcher Launchers to the legs Don't forget the dual gun pod hard points on the left arm, too! Quote
Kurisama Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 The VF-1 master file shows the armoured valks with gunpods on the arms too :3 Quote
sketchley Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 The VF-1 master file shows the armoured valks with gunpods on the arms too :3 Only 1 per arm on the GBP-1S, my friend. Except for when they've mounted an RMS-1 missile there. Quote
Mommar Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 ^ This... I literally just got mine in the mail about 10 mins ago and noticed this - and I don't mind it at all. I dig. I guess I can make this too when I make the 1/60 armour for the VF-0's :3 I've gotta buy a second spare now???? I'm still waiting to modify my first one into a D. Quote
Kurisama Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Hey, I'm still on the lookout for another VF-0S for the armour... Otherwise it'll have to go on the floppy mess that is my current VF-0S... Getting back to the book, I'd have liked to have seen more cross sections and/or more armoured pics. Also a pic or two of an SV-51 in battroid... But all in all, a satisfying book. The renders and rendering techniques are so much better than before, super sharp details and subtle shadows as well as better integration into the photo backgrounds. Now... Time for a VF-11 book! Quote
VF5SS Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 It's the VF-9 Ark Royals who fly VF-0s does that make sense Quote
Mommar Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Hey, I'm still on the lookout for another VF-0S for the armour... Otherwise it'll have to go on the floppy mess that is my current VF-0S... Getting back to the book, I'd have liked to have seen more cross sections and/or more armoured pics. Also a pic or two of an SV-51 in battroid... But all in all, a satisfying book. The renders and rendering techniques are so much better than before, super sharp details and subtle shadows as well as better integration into the photo backgrounds. Now... Time for a VF-11 book! I was thinking that based on the preview images I had seen that the photos were much better then the previous books. Then Veef posted that last Ark Royals one, which looks horribly polygonal and fake. It's a nice paint scheme though. Quote
Reïvaj Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I was thinking that based on the preview images I had seen that the photos were much better then the previous books. Then Veef posted that last Ark Royals one, which looks horribly polygonal and fake. It's a nice paint scheme though. Really? I can't see that Quote
VF5SS Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 To be fair that's one picture on a page of like four or five. It is a little strange to think they guys had to make their own 3d models even though Zero is the first Macross series with CG Valkyries. The Battroid pictures looks different than Satelight's models that's for sure. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I think I got my wish and this guy is sorta like the promo VF-0 that was a two-seater. Quote
Mommar Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Really? I can't see that Something about the surfaces and the lighting used. Definitely doesn't look like the finish of a real plan to me. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 What an awesome book!!! It's only lacking more armor pics. Quote
Firefox Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 It's actually great they made their own 3D. The two-seater are more beautiful than the original line art. They re-do the cockpit of the two-seater and make it look more streamline than just a bulge from the original design. Quote
Talos Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 It's actually great they made their own 3D. The two-seater are more beautiful than the original line art. They re-do the cockpit of the two-seater and make it look more streamline than just a bulge from the original design. I was actually discussing just that with Seto yesterday. I don't care for much of the changes to the cockpit for the B/D, mostly that double-bubble shape it acquired. It's not so bad in 3D or in the page on VF-0 variants, but to me looks awful in the Structure of VF-0 section. I just preferred the continuous flow of the original's. Though, I'll admit, the variant page look for the canopy is growing on me. It's just a shame they didn't cover the Space Proving Wing markings for the VF-0B. That was one of my favorite Hasegawa looks. Two things we did notice yesterday were the ARMD-00 Constitution and the fuel tanks taken from the F/A-20A, related to the F/A-20N Dragon IIs that Prometheus carries according to VF-1 Master File. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I didn't notice they changed the shape of the two VF-0 canopies until you guys pointed it out. Perhaps it's their way of making sure there is enough space for the second seat to rotate for Battroid mode. Quote
Talos Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I didn't notice they changed the shape of the two VF-0 canopies until you guys pointed it out. Perhaps it's their way of making sure there is enough space for the second seat to rotate for Battroid mode. Going by recollection, since my book's downstairs, I think it actually either kept the rear headroom the same or reduced it. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 here's some pics so we can obsessively debate it! Quote
Talos Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 here's some pics so we can obsessively debate it! Thanks for those, VF5SS, you and I were thinking the exact same thing. When I got home, I overlaid the old Hasegawa VF-0B canopy I drew for a profile a while back over the cockpit transformation diagram and, using the front edge of the windscreen glass and the very end of the canopy as reference points (since the lower part of it is completely different), the Hasegawa's canopy bow is farther forward and there's more headroom in the aft canopy. Does the pilot need it? Probably not. I've just grown used to the old look and seeing something that different is weird, just like the canopy (and most of the rest of the plane) on the Hasegawa VF-11 model kit. Quote
TehPW Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I'm getting mine today so I'll scan that part if you want. There was a F-14 fitted with VF-1 engines testbed in the old VF-1 Valkyrie doujin too. I dunno if it transformed. LOL even though there are no more American Tommy's airborne, there still are NC-8A's being used (but not in the fleet, not for 15+ years) at some airfields... Quote
VF5SS Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I did some more scans Alaska based VF-11 Bravers just keeps goin' up Quote
Dobber Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Just got my book. I'm very happy with it and like it a lot. Did notice that they are missing a cannon squadron in the back or in any photo's...the Bunny squadron, Skull squadrons sister squadron on the Asuka II during the events of Mac 0. The book is REALLY making me want Hasegawa to rerelease their VF-0 and SV-51 models. Chris Quote
Mommar Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 Stiiiiiiiiil waiting on my book (and my 25G.) These pics are killing me. Quote
Talos Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 Just got my book. I'm very happy with it and like it a lot. Did notice that they are missing a cannon squadron in the back or in any photo's...the Bunny squadron, Skull squadrons sister squadron on the Asuka II during the events of Mac 0. The book is REALLY making me want Hasegawa to rerelease their VF-0 and SV-51 models. Chris Yes! I was griping about the Bunnies too. I should look at the table of where the fighters are assigned again in the back of the book, I think it showed another squadron on the Asuka II. VF-11 or something. Quote
Mommar Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 Man, I'm going to have to keep drooling over these pics you guys have posted. My book shipped the 26th and it's still not here yet. I may have to contact HLJ pretty soon. Quote
Mommar Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Whew, finally showed up yesterday. I found it interesting in the back of the book they have that rough lineage of Valks. The VF-0->VF-1->VF-3000->VF-5000->VF-11 makes sense. But the Branch that has the VF-4->VF-9->VF-17 doesn't make nearly as much. It's nice to see some VF-3000 images and more of the VF-11. The VF-0 itself looks great in these "real world" shots. It would be great to see a VF-11 and VF-17 book as I think those two would also lend themselves well to "real world" looking photos. Quote
sketchley Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) The VF-0->VF-1->VF-3000->VF-5000->VF-11 makes sense. But the Branch that has the VF-4->VF-9->VF-17 doesn't make nearly as much. It's best to consider the VFMF series of books to be fan made - which explains away some of the odd choices and factual errors. Anyhow, an alternative to the geneological chart: http://nomansland.si...g35716#msg35716 (scroll down to: 082 The Genealogy of VFs and their development) In short, BOTH the VF-9 and VF-5000 branches merge into BOTH the VF-11 and VF-14. Edited October 16, 2012 by sketchley Quote
Mommar Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 It's best to consider the VFMF series of books to be fan made - which explains away some of the odd choices and factual errors. Anyhow, an alternative to the geneological chart: http://nomansland.si...g35716#msg35716 (scroll down to: 082 The Genealogy of VFs and their development) In short, BOTH the VF-9 and VF-5000 branches merge into BOTH the VF-11 and VF-14. It's less about whether it's actually "factual" and more about the fact that it doesn't make any sense. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 i'm very upset they didn't show the in flight refueling probe Quote
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