Tochiro Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Plus the fact that CGi modelling isn't widespread enough to be a hobby- at least one big enough to support such a book. Not to mention that those who make a living at it wouldn't want to give away any trade secrets. There have been small Macross F sections in publications such as CG World in the past but that's the most you will get. Quote
Mommar Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Damn, look at the size of the wings on that D. It looks like it's wearing a cape. Are there many "real-world" renders of the C/D in the book as well? Most of the CG in those books are done by independent artists so there's no centralized set of models. Really? When you contract out work you don't typically own the 3D models being worked on and keep them in a central repository after the fact? Quote
VF5SS Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Well the back of each book has credits for all the artists who worked on them. That's why these feel more like official doujin books. I think this is more of a case where the CG artists and model makers are submitted renders and photographs which are either finished or are composited later. Quote
Tober Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 HLJ just charged me for the Master File VF-0 book. Quote
Gubaba Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Got it yesterday. I found it a little skimpy compared to the other books (although it's funny that they added a biography of Mao Nome). So yeah...VF-0, Ghosts, Reactive Armor, the Asuka-II, the SV-51, and the VF-3000. Only fighter modes are shown for the last two. Markedly fewer squadron markings for the VF-0, but since far fewer of them were produced, I guess that's okay... but they don't even show Shin's VF-0D there. Quote
VF5SS Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Got it yesterday. I found it a little skimpy compared to the other books (although it's funny that they added a biography of Mao Nome). So who is the lucky man who got Kadun'd? Quote
Gubaba Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) So who is the lucky man who got Kadun'd? Skimming the article, they don't appear to say. However, they do give a straight definition for "Kadun": 禍 (evil, calamity, curse, misfortune). Edited September 25, 2012 by Gubaba Quote
VF5SS Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I would never have guessed based on how Sara uses that word :3 Quote
Gubaba Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I would never have guessed based on how Sara uses that word :3 Yeah it was obvious...but it's always nice to KNOW, isn't it...? Quote
VF5SS Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 You gotta KNOW Kaduns...and bird people... Just like in Highlander 2. Quote
sketchley Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Get. Does anyone else think it's "cute" how they backwards engineer a picture (in universe, corner burned off) that they created for the magazine? Anyhow, I appreciate that they kept the wing ordinance both realistic (as in real world) AND official setting accurate. Though... I though the VF-0A/B/S only had 3 hard points per wing, not the 4 that this book indicates? Wish the sections on the SV-51 and VF-3000 were larger, but ah well... at least we get a mention of the SV-52. Quote
Mommar Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Got it yesterday. I found it a little skimpy compared to the other books (although it's funny that they added a biography of Mao Nome). So yeah...VF-0, Ghosts, Reactive Armor, the Asuka-II, the SV-51, and the VF-3000. Only fighter modes are shown for the last two. Markedly fewer squadron markings for the VF-0, but since far fewer of them were produced, I guess that's okay... but they don't even show Shin's VF-0D there. Skimpy in what way? Much smaller page-wise then the other books? Quote
sketchley Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Much smaller page-wise then the other books? VFMF:VF-1: 128 pgs VFMF:VF-19: 128 pgs VFMF:VF-1 Space Wings: 128 pgs VFMF:VF-25 The new messiah: 128 pgs VFMF:VF-0 the original phoenix: 128 pgs I think he means it more in a content sense... Quote
VF5SS Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Well Macross as a whole doesn't have nearly the same number of side stories and tech oriented publications to draw from like Gundam. The material is getting stretched thin at least text wise. Plenty of room for pretty pictures of airplanes in flight though! Quote
Gubaba Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Skimpy in what way? Much smaller page-wise then the other books? As I said... only fighter modes shown for SV-51 and VF-3000, and far fewer squadron markings for VF-0 than for the previous subjects. Quote
Mommar Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Ancillary craft have appeared in the other books in only fighter form as well. VF-11, VF-17, VF-171, YF-21, VF-22, VF-27, YF-29. Hell, the VF-9 didn't even appear as a real photo. It was just a top-down, black-and-white diagram. It's not surprising they didn't include additional images/modes for those other craft. That's always been the case with these books, even if it is disappointing. Quote
VF5SS Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 http://masterfileblog.jp/news/2012/09/28/1469.html Kurisama will like this Quote
Kurisama Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Why are the pic ture rezezez so small!?!? And google translate so bad?!?! Once day I'll get around to googling and finding the blogs and portfolios of the artists that did the artwork for all the master files... At least their names are listed in the books... Thanks Veef! Edited September 28, 2012 by Kurisama Quote
VF5SS Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 Even with their names it's hard to find these guys. Quote
Firefox Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I'm surprised they even included a few VF-3000 photos. This book is great, the only to be picky about is that the VF-0 variations are not as much as the other. For example, you have VF-19B/D, the early warning, recon models in VF-19 Master File. Quote
sketchley Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 This book is great, the only to be picky about is that the VF-0 variations are not as much as the other. That's the one thing that makes perfect sense, though. The VF-0 was an experimental fighter, and never produced in very many numbers or variations. As it is, I think it's cool that we get the F-14++ Advanced Tomcat (think stealthy Tomcat), halfway-to-VF F-14X, and a few shots of the VF-0 being tested in space. Quote
Firefox Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 As it is, I think it's cool that we get the F-14++ Advanced Tomcat (think stealthy Tomcat), halfway-to-VF F-14X, and a few shots of the VF-0 being tested in space. True! The F-14++ and the semi-transformable F-14 test bed looks cool as well. Quote
Mommar Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 There's pics of semi-transformable F-14's as well? Quote
VF5SS Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I'm getting mine today so I'll scan that part if you want. There was a F-14 fitted with VF-1 engines testbed in the old VF-1 Valkyrie doujin too. I dunno if it transformed. Quote
Dobber Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 Mine is waiting in my private warehouse at hlj until another item comes in stock so i really appreciate the info. That tomcat looks awesome....would make a really cool custom. Chris Quote
azrael Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I found the F-14 variants they threw in there a bit....tacky. And really, this book should be light on content since the VF-0 was an experimental fighter. The fighter only had a service life of <5 years. Compared to the VF-1's 40+ year service life, or the VF-19's near-20 year service life. Quote
sketchley Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I'm getting mine today so I'll scan that part if you want. There was a F-14 fitted with VF-1 engines testbed in the old VF-1 Valkyrie doujin too. I dunno if it transformed. If only it was as nice as that picture. Those F-14 variants are all side on. Though the implied look of the stealthy F-14 is cool, the semi-transforming one is... well... leaves a lot to be desired. No where near the same level of class as, say, the VF-11 that served as the VF-19's test bed. Quote
Mommar Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 That's too bad, I thought the idea of a Hybrid (thinking of the 11/19 one) for testing sounded pretty cool. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I still think it looks pretty cool even in just a side view also lol F-14++ Advanced Tomcat XD Macross is a universe where the F-22 was never built. Quote
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