Mommar Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 On 1/19/2012 at 2:49 AM, sketchley said: Not just that, but the 0B, as well as a fuller explanation of the 0D's "enhanced EW capabilities". I guess because the B is a two seater version of the A/S I don't find it nearly as interesting as the 0D which has a lot of different payload configs and overall looks different too. Quote
VF5SS Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Technically yes. It's a very early design for the VF-0 before it had any designated variants besides the S type. Some of the shapes and proportions are very different from the final design. Quote
azrael Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 On 1/19/2012 at 7:10 PM, Dobber said: Isn't that the B? Yep. More or less. B is just a 2-seater A. Quote
TehPW Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/19/2012 at 3:59 PM, VF5SS said: plz cover this one too this art pic was made before the first OVA came out right? so its just speculative and NON CANNON? Quote
Kurisama Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 12:15 AM, TehPW said: this art pic was made before the first OVA came out right? so its just speculative and NON CANNON? UH OH - TIME TO FREAK OUT, MACROSS WORLD STYLE~!!! http://www.youtube.c...rsIyzsOpc#t=15s Quote
VF5SS Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 12:15 AM, TehPW said: this art pic was made before the first OVA came out right? so its just speculative and NON CANNON? I fired the Macross canon last week Quote
Reïvaj Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 12:15 AM, TehPW said: this art pic was made before the first OVA came out right? so its just speculative and NON CANNON? On 1/20/2012 at 12:36 AM, VF5SS said: I fired the Macross canon last week Quote
Kurisama Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 12:36 AM, VF5SS said: I fired the Macross canon last week Ok... I'll stop now. I really should get back to work. Back on topic - really excited to see what art will be in the book! Quote
sketchley Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/19/2012 at 3:04 PM, Mommar said: I guess because the B is a two seater version of the A/S I don't find it nearly as interesting as the 0D which has a lot of different payload configs and overall looks different too. I disagree. I've been intrigued with the B variant ever since it's first appearance in Tenjin Hidetaka's first Valkyries with the words "Space Proving Wing" stencilled on the side. As we're all well aware, the VF-0 is an atmospheric fighter. Therefore, the implications are that the 0B has some extra modifications for space use. Quote
TehPW Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 1:18 AM, Kurisama said: Ok... I'll stop now. I really should get back to work. Back on topic - really excited to see what art will be in the book! ok... i really need to think my words out phoentically right?I'm Charging mah BFG! nice pic LOL Quote
Mommar Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 2:58 AM, sketchley said: I disagree. I've been intrigued with the B variant ever since it's first appearance in Tenjin Hidetaka's first Valkyries with the words "Space Proving Wing" stencilled on the side. As we're all well aware, the VF-0 is an atmospheric fighter. Therefore, the implications are that the 0B has some extra modifications for space use. That's the first I've heard of this. Based on everything I saw of the B it was just a two-seater A to me. Quote
Talos Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Even marked "Space Proving Wing", the VF-0B is still depicted as taking off from a carrier in the model kit box art. I've always figured the SPW was a general testing unit, weapons, organization, tactics, etc, with the VF-0B being identical to the other VF-0s. Then, of course, there's the Marine VF-0Cs... Quote
Dobber Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I don't think the B is the only 0 designed for space flight. Edgar told Shin that the 0 was designed for space flight or something and that's why it was okay in the water. I doubt the SPW was only B's and agree with What Talos said. Chris Quote
sketchley Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 5:12 PM, Dobber said: I don't think the B is the only 0 designed for space flight. Edgar told Shin that the 0 was designed for space flight or something and that's why it was okay in the water. Erm, you do realize that space-worthy vehicles are designed to keep relatively low atmospheric pressure inside, and submersibles are designed to keep relatively high water pressure outside, right? Quote
VF5SS Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Well Edgar might be delirious from lack of Merkan burger but that's what he told Shin. Quote
Dobber Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) On 1/20/2012 at 6:12 PM, sketchley said: Erm, you do realize that space-worthy vehicles are designed to keep relatively low atmospheric pressure inside, and submersibles are designed to keep relatively high water pressure outside, right? Sketchley, as you know I didn't write the farking script. Just quoting what Edgar said. On 1/20/2012 at 6:22 PM, VF5SS said: Well Edgar might be delirious from lack of Merkan burger but that's what he told Shin. .Thanks Veef. Chris Edited January 20, 2012 by Dobber Quote
sketchley Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 6:34 PM, Dobber said: Sketchley, as you know I didn't write the farking script. Just quoting what Edgar said. No worries. There's a lot of bad translations out there. I think my favourite is "brief 25" when it's supposed to have been "VF-25". Quote
Dobber Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Ha ha! I remember that one too. Lol Chris Quote
Reïvaj Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 On 1/20/2012 at 7:19 PM, sketchley said: No worries. There's a lot of bad translations out there. I think my favourite is "brief 25" when it's supposed to have been "VF-25". Tradutore traditore. So you’re implying Edgar didn’t say so to Shin. Could you please kindly tell us what he actually said since you seem to know the answer? Quote
VF5SS Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 No he's saying some bad translations got repeated a lot and it sucks. But Edgar does say the Zero was built for space combat in the Japanese audio. Quote
sketchley Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 The fact that all VF-0 have low-thrust vernier motors on their airframes is indicative of their being developed for use in space in some manner. That said, it's strongly implied that the VF-0B has been modified so it's performance in space is greater than that of the VF-0A, D and S, and I am hoping that this book provides some information on that. Quote
Gubaba Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 On 1/21/2012 at 2:04 AM, sketchley said: The fact that all VF-0 have low-thrust vernier motors on their airframes is indicative of their being developed for use in space in some manner. That said, it's strongly implied that the VF-0B has been modified so it's performance in space is greater than that of the VF-0A, D and S, and I am hoping that this book provides some information on that. How is it strongly implied? Is it just by the words "Space Proving Wing," or is there more? Quote
hulagu Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) On 1/19/2012 at 1:07 PM, sketchley said: Funny you should mention that... as I was looking them up (for another site) earlier today. It's not there. But you can keep checking this: http://www.amazon.co...sl_5elyc2kigh_e (in short it's a search for "Variable Fighter Master File" on the site. The Softbank Creative page w/ same search: http://www.sbcr.jp/search.php?w=%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB This site: http://www.getchu.co...phtml?id=730979 has some info of note: So, February and still no official announcement of this book. Is this still based only on rumor or what? Edited February 4, 2012 by hulagu Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) On 2/4/2012 at 11:38 PM, hulagu said: So, February and still no official announcement of this book. Is this still based only on rumor or what? C'mon, be realistic... has GAGraphic ever released a Master File book on schedule? Give it a bit, if it's coming out it'll be late. Edited February 5, 2012 by Seto Kaiba Quote
hulagu Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 On 2/5/2012 at 2:28 AM, Seto Kaiba said: C'mon, be realistic... has GAGraphic ever released a Master File book on schedule? Give it a bit, if it's coming out it'll be late. Finally, a concrete date for release! http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=730979 30th April 2012 Quote
Jasonc Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 Good to know. I would love to see the pretty pics of it. Quote
Jasonc Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 On 3/15/2012 at 12:42 PM, Mommar said: Only two months late. Not bad. Yeah, better late than never. The flip side of this coulda been "Not enough interest" or "Moving in another direction", which is just code for not gonna happen. Glad it's still coming. Quote
Mommar Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 On 3/15/2012 at 5:06 PM, Jasonc said: Yeah, better late than never. The flip side of this coulda been "Not enough interest" or "Moving in another direction", which is just code for not gonna happen. Glad it's still coming. The other books seem to sell out pretty well. If you don't buy one up in the first few months they're usually pretty hard to track down. Quote
the_foul_fowl Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 No, it's not out yet... release delayed till June http://www.hlj.com/product/SOF36808 Quote
Jasonc Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 June would be totally OK if there weren't so many other things coming out same time. Still it wouldn't be Macross if it wasn't pressing the wallet. Quote
Kurisama Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Anyone else hoping for stand alone VF-11 and VF-4 books? Or *gasp* a book with both in there? Quote
xrentonx Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 I'm down for them doing every single Valk out there. Hell, throw in the Destroids too. Quote
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