TMBounty_Hunter Posted July 24, 2012 Author Posted July 24, 2012 That Macross special opening is cleaned up without the grain and scratches and it looks so glorious. I wish they could have done that to the series. My understanding is the Creditless OP and ED were usually shot clean on 35mm film because they could afford it and needed it cleaner for the next steps. Then for the actual episode they'd add the credits layer on top and of that clean film and reshoot that on the 16mm actual episode film (so they don't have to abuse the OP cell banks all the time). This is why the creditless OP and ED always come out a billion times cleaner than episode footage for older shows. Dancouga, Zeta, ZZ BDs all show this. Quote
big F Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Didnt know that, thanks makes sense now, some old tv programes I have seen re run recently must also have used the same method as they have similar credits and creditless issues. I always just put it down to cheap production values and T.V series values. Quote
Kicker773 Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 I need some suggestions.. its finally in stock and wanted to know if this was worth it. Quote
TMBounty_Hunter Posted August 5, 2012 Author Posted August 5, 2012 I need some suggestions.. its finally in stock and wanted to know if this was worth it. It's pretty much as good as it will ever get as far as video/audio. Only thing missing for western fans is the subs and who knows when and if that'll happen. Quote
Kicker773 Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 im just asking.. i have the animeigo and the remastered versions so i had to ask since it doesn't come cheap. Quote
EXO Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 If you have the DYRL BD then you can expect the same type of remastering. Grainy with sharp lines on some scenes. Some scenes blurs a bit (not the censoring type) and some are great. There's some screen caps posted on the facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.348853508531364.81950.334036913346357&type=3 Quote
TMBounty_Hunter Posted August 5, 2012 Author Posted August 5, 2012 im just asking.. i have the animeigo and the remastered versions so i had to ask since it doesn't come cheap. Quite a lot of screencaps and comparisons are in the thread. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=36122&st=175&p=975336entry975336 http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=36122&st=210&p=975676entry975676 http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=36122&st=175&p=975415entry975415 To me it's worth every penny. It's my first time buying SDF TV and will probably be the final one as far as archiving the show goes. The extras are also fantastic. Quote
the_foul_fowl Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I've never owned a physical copy of macross tv before, really tempted to spring for this set. The deal breaker between regular and complete ed for me would be the Perfect Memory book... any comments on it? Quote
ZenAmako Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Judging by the screencaps, the BD stomps all over the AnimEigo DVD set. However, that quality does come with a price, and you lose the English subs. I have the 15th Anniversary LD-BOX and the AnimEigo DVDs, so I think I'm good as far as Macross TV goes. The LD set was north of $500 back in the day, so it wasn't cheap either. Quote
Kicker773 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Bit the bullet. It's on it's way. Just sucks that I have many other versions and then ten yrs from now another version is out. Dammit! Quote
Keith Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 Judging by the screencaps, the BD stomps all over the AnimEigo DVD set. However, that quality does come with a price, and you lose the English subs. I have the 15th Anniversary LD-BOX and the AnimEigo DVDs, so I think I'm good as far as Macross TV goes. The LD set was north of $500 back in the day, so it wasn't cheap either. "Stomps all over the AnimEigo disc's" doesn't even begin to describe it. Bit the bullet. It's on it's way. Just sucks that I have many other versions and then ten yrs from now another version is out. Dammit! After watching the remaster, I'm really not sure I can go back to a lessor master, even without subs. As for another format, 10 years down the line would probably be some kinda digital format. Quote
xrentonx Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) "Stomps all over the AnimEigo disc's" doesn't even begin to describe it. After watching the remaster, I'm really not sure I can go back to a lessor master, even without subs. As for another format, 10 years down the line would probably be some kinda digital format. It's gonna totally be streamed into your brain and will look like some augmented reality shi*t that will continuously play in your periphery while you do other stuff. Macross ALL THE TIME...even while you sleep and poop...and people will STILL COMPLAIN about the blurry bits. Edited August 11, 2012 by xrentonx Quote
Mechinyun Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 Is discussing a downloadable digital version of this off limits? (im patiently watching a 500GB download click by) Is there a way to rip the subs from animEigo DVD'S and apply to this? I want to introduce my son to macross in a year or two once his reading skills are a bit better (hes 5) Quote
Keith Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 Is discussing a downloadable digital version of this off limits? (im patiently watching a 500GB download click by) Is there a way to rip the subs from animEigo DVD'S and apply to this? I want to introduce my son to macross in a year or two once his reading skills are a bit better (hes 5) That depends, did you buy the official release? Quote
Pat Payne Posted September 4, 2012 Posted September 4, 2012 I couldn't agree more with you. It looks fantastic! Same here. I just saw the OP on Youtube, and was amazed with the work. I'd love to see them reanimate the original series' vocal tracks with that shiny new animation Quote
Marzan Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Oh. Last time I was on this thread there was some fine pachinko footage and now it's gone. Did YouTube remove the vid or something? Edited September 5, 2012 by Marzan Quote
Tochiro Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 Oh. Last time I was on this thread there was some fine pachinko footage and now it's gone. Did YouTube remove the vid or something? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVGFy3V7a7I&feature=youtube_gdata_player Quote
Old_Nash Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVGFy3V7a7I&feature=youtube_gdata_player I found this video now. Too bad it is pachinko. If they ever re-do the series as they did with Yamato 2199. Will take advantage this style of animation, or do something else "Frontier" as the current productions? Quote
dakedo Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCXA-504 Anyone has bought that one? Is it 1080 or 720? Did they do anything exceptional after what Animeigo did? EIDT:Oh sorry I was not aware of this thread, *reading* Edited January 30, 2013 by dakedo Quote
Tochiro Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 It makes the show so clear that you can see dirt on the cells at times, which just adds to the atmosphere imo. Having said that, given the price, you might not find the step up from the original DVD remasters worth it. Renato - anything else to chime in with, since you've been watching the BDs recently? Quote
Renato Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 It makes the show so clear that you can see dirt on the cells at times, which just adds to the atmosphere imo. Having said that, given the price, you might not find the step up from the original DVD remasters worth it. Renato - anything else to chime in with, since you've been watching the BDs recently? Yeah: For this and the Space Cruiser Yamato BD set, the price is really the issue. In terms of visuals, the BD is absolutely incredible. I'm sorry, I was never really very impressed with the Animeigo DVDs. I know the fixed the film splices and the sound was better, but the overly-saturated colours always bugged me. The Blu-rays are gorgeous, though. It's like looking at each individual cel... Some people find the dust and fingerprints off-putting, but I find it fascinating, because it gives clues to the photographic process. The reason I never got the HD Remaster DVD set was because I knew they would bring this one out sooner or later. However, I was on the fence for months after it did come out (and seeing how this was not an immediate sell-out, I wasn't the only one), but I bit the bullet when I felt the price would not go down any lower. Still, just the TV show itself was not enough for me to double-dip -- I mainly wanted the limited edition collector's set because it comes with all sorts of stuff like storyboards and initial-draft scripts which is really great. Although that missing page from the Perfect Memory reprint is irritating. As far as visual extras, they are the same as the ones on the "HD Remaster DVD" set from 2008 or so, except for the Pachinko stuff, and a TV special retrospective on Macross's 30th anniversary. For a full documentary on the story behind the making of the TV series and movie, the DYRL Limited Edition BD is much better. The booklet included in the LE SDFM TV series box does however provide quite a lot of info on the matter, though, such as how the "Genocidus" project and the "Megaroad" project coalesced to become "Macross", with some rare Studio Nue pre-production sketches. With this set, DYRL and Mac7 on BD, I think I'm done with Macross. You're not going to get better picture quality or content. I do have the MacPlus BD set and FB7 on order, but that's more sort of a "completist OCD" symptom. Quote
Tochiro Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 With this set, DYRL and Mac7 on BD, I think I'm done with Macross. You're not going to get better picture quality or content. I do have the MacPlus BD set and FB7 on order, but that's more sort of a "completist OCD" symptom.Oh, just wait until they announce Macross 2 on BD... *wink* Quote
Renato Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Oh, just wait until they announce Macross 2 on BD... *wink*I'd rather have Clash of the Bionoids. ;P Quote
dakedo Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) One more question folks. I am seriously thinking about buying this ( the complete edition withthe book and all); already bought the DYRL BD 30th Anyversay LE Thing is I live in Mexico (yeah I will have to save on tacos for ayear to buy this one, hehe, and sell my donkey, haha), not,.. really, Isee there is a very good price in Amazon Japan, so I was wondering whythis site is offering this product for around 13000 yens less than othersites. Whats the deal there? Is there a catch? Maybe they do not ship to everywhere? Edited February 6, 2013 by dakedo Quote
Demon_seed_22 Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) Can anyone point me in the right direction to watch a "good" copy of this series? Dose hula have? Would like to see in HD English dub but will take what I can get. I see it on YouTube but says not available in my country (USA). Tried proxy and still no luck. Thx Edited February 7, 2013 by Demon_seed_22 Quote
Demon_seed_22 Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I know this may be a sin to ask here but... The macross sage (robotech) shows the same episode names as SDF. is there a difference? Is so what and how much. Is is as drastic as golion to voltron... I'd like to watch in English but can deal with subtitles if its worth it. Quote
Keith Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) The TV set is well worth it, the extra's are awesome, and the remaster is phenominal. Edited February 7, 2013 by Keith Quote
azrael Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I know this may be a sin to ask here but... The macross sage (robotech) shows the same episode names as SDF. is there a difference? Is so what and how much. Is is as drastic as golion to voltron... We have a guide for that for more than 10 years: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=228 Quote
Tochiro Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 One more question folks. I am seriously thinking about buying this ( the complete edition with the book and all); already bought the DYRL BD 30th Anyversay LE Thing is I live in Mexico (yeah I will have to save on tacos for a year to buy this one, hehe, and sell my donkey, haha), not,.. really, I see there is a very good price in Amazon Japan, so I was wondering why this site is offering this product for around 13000 yens less than other sites. Whats the deal there? Is there a catch? Maybe they do not ship to everywhere? Amazon always discounts their products to some degree at somepoint. Normally theres a 10~20% discount for preorders, then the products jumps back up to regular retail price immediately upon release, then drops again (often to pre-order discount levels after a few months pass if they have extra stock. Quote
dakedo Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Thanks for the responses, I am sooo buying this !!!! Quote
Renato Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Thanks for the responses, I am sooo buying this !!!! Be aware that there are two editions of this set, one with the book and stuff and another, smaller one, just with the discs. Make sure you're buying the right one. I have made mistakes in the (recent) past... Quote
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