VT 1010 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 To be honest, I actually liked the first movie...provided I don't view it as an adaptation. The original OVA had some good action scenes and the awesome power armor by Miyatake. Everything between the explosions though wasn't very good and the music sucked (the worst anime soundtrack I've ever heard). IMHO, the best adaptation was Roughnecks. There is, however, a reason why I'm still excited about this new anime. We can thank Shinji Aramaki for this: Quote
VF5SS Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Aramaki didn't direct that one mang. He did The Package. Written by Eureka 7 guy, Dai Sato. Quote
VT 1010 Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 I know that; however, he did do the mechanical design of the suit. Quote
soul.assassin Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) Honestly, the book isn't all that great either. Starship Troopers isn't even a novel so much as it is an essay on the glory and virtue of war and militarism and how you're not a real man unless you're gone out and murdered someone in the name of the state. There's hardly a plot and not a single worth while character in the whole book, it's nothing but of talking heads giving political lectures punctuated by random battles and training montages. Overall it has it's moments but it would take a lot of work to make it a worthwhile film or series. Also The Forever War was way better. Just saying. You saying about disliking Starship Troopers is a testament to the continuing capacity of the book to provoke controversy and debate; the rightist ideology discussed inside is as provoking as communism. That other book was written as an antithesis, due to the author's experience with the Vietnam War, and then I remember watching Jarhead a few times, along with memories of The Pacific (both TV series and companion book). Edited October 18, 2011 by soul.assassin Quote
Renato Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Actually, Flint Dille did not write Transformers: The Movie (that was written by Ron Friedman). He wrote most of season 3 and majority of the G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero episodes. Perhaps you are right, but the way I understood it, Ron Friedman wrote the first draft which was way longer and totally different to the final movie except in key points, and Flint Dille basically re-wrote it into what we know today. Dille's official credit remains "Story Consultant" because it was in Friedman's contract that he should get sole writing credit no matter what. Then again, I don't know exactly how accurate this is, though it would be interesting to find out. Quote
miles316 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 You saying about disliking Starship Troopers is a testament to the continuing capacity of the book to provoke controversy and debate; the rightist ideology discussed inside is as provoking as communism. That other book was written as an antithesis, due to the author's experience with the Vietnam War, and then I remember watching Jarhead a few times, along with memories of The Pacific (both TV series and companion book). What is this "other book" called? Quote
anime52k8 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 What is this "other book" called? The Forever War by Joe Haldeman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War Quote
VF5SS Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 No read Armor by John Steakley it has ant killing Quote
Dobber Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Ha! I forgot about that one. I thought it turned out to be a pretty good book too, after I got over my preconceived notion that it was a Starship Troopers knock-off. Chris Quote
Knight26 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 In terms of the SST "knock offs" I've met both Steakley and Haldemann, interesting guys. Now, Armor (Steakley) was originally concieved to be a sequel or at least take place in the same universe as SST, but Heinlein, or his estate I forget it's been a long time, said no to that idea. So Steakley rewrote it into its own universe, that bares many striking similarities to the SST universe, bugs and all, and called the book an homage to SST and there was much rejoicing. Forever War on the other hand was written as a response to SST. Haldemann felt that Heinlein did not convey the true grittiness of war in SST, and being a Vietnam vet he was coming out a much different war then Heinlein would have served in had he not gotten a medical discharge from the Navy prior to WW2. But SSt was written in a WW2 mindset where soldier were regarded as heroes, and heinlein had been an officer straight away, something he admits he disagrees with, hence why in SST everyone starts as a grunt then goes to OTS. Haldemann however was coming out of 'nam where soldiers were, by and large, treated as periahs upon their return home and alot of that comes through in the book. Haldemann has said that he likes SST, but that he feels his book is more realistic in many ways, and in some ways more prescient, look at how society has changed recently and you'll see what he means. Haldemanns other works are quite good as well and I recommend them all, though I will say that Forever War is probably still his best. Quote
Lobizon Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Starship Troopers Suit Drafted by Appleseed/MOSPEADA's Aramaki. http://www.animenews...ospeada-aramaki Quote
Beltane70 Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 I like the suit, but it looks it belongs in the Appleseed universe more than it does Starship Troopers. I always picture the power armor in Starship Troopers to look much bulkier. Quote
Wanzerfan Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Starship Troopers Suit Drafted by Appleseed/MOSPEADA's Aramaki. http://www.animenews...ospeada-aramaki Where the hell's the Y-Rack on the back? Quote
VT 1010 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Posted November 9, 2011 I was hoping it would look more like an ape. Quote
PetarB Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Indeed. Still, for what it is, it looks cool! I'm just glad it's going ahead. Quote
Lobizon Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) just one thing, 2009.9.7 guess that is not a final design and I agree that looks like a landmate. Edited November 9, 2011 by Lobizon Quote
Wanzerfan Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 looks more like a Guges model to me. Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) That design reeks of generic anime mecha design. It looks like briarios mixed with 08th team mobile suit. Edited November 11, 2011 by renegadeleader1 Quote
Beltane70 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Masamune Shirow called. He wants his ORC armor design back! Quote
Wanzerfan Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Masamune Shirow called. He wants his ORC armor design back! Now that damed thing looks almost like one of Siembieda's Coalition States of America's grunt armor. (Next to Wayne Breaux, Kevin Long is the best artist Palladium Games has).It seems that Siembieda's more desperate than I thought. The bastard renewed his HG Robotech license. But yeah, anything coming down the pike would be better than Verhoeven's trilogy of drek. Quote
HoveringCheesecake Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I have been meaning to pick up the book for years now, but the first Starship Troopers movie is pure 90's cheese. I love it. Plus it was the first R rated movie I watched when I was 12, so it'll always have a special spot in my heart. Boobies and a shower scene? Yes please. Quote
Gubaba Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 But yeah, anything coming down the pike would be better than Verhoeven's trilogy of drek. Trilogy...? Quote
VF5SS Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Trilogy...? Yeah mang. Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation and Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. Only the first was directed by Paul Germanname but the writer for the first directed the third so there's still taint. Quote
Gubaba Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Yeah mang. Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation and Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. Only the first was directed by Paul Germanname but the writer for the first directed the third so there's still taint. Oh, I knew about those...but Wanz seems to be saying that Verhoeven had something to do with them. Quote
VF5SS Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Well without the first movie, they wouldn't have the props to exploit for the next two :3 and also for G-Savior and some other low budget sci-fi Quote
Gubaba Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Well without the first movie, they wouldn't have the props to exploit for the next two :3 and also for G-Savior and some other low budget sci-fi True...but (since you brought it up), isn't that like saying that G-Saviour is Tomino's fault? Quote
VF5SS Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 True...but (since you brought it up), isn't that like saying that G-Saviour is Tomino's fault? Well he is the George Lucas of anime. Or is that Kawamori. Or Ryosuke Takahashi? Quote
Gubaba Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Well he is the George Lucas of anime. Or is that Kawamori. Or Ryosuke Takahashi? Yes, to all of the above. Quote
Lobizon Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Starship Troopers: Invasion Video Trailer Streamed. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-03-17/cg-starship-troopers/invasion-film-trailer-streamed Edited March 18, 2012 by Lobizon Quote
Hikuro Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 Hm actually that looks better than the last 2 movies combined with some kind of hot sauce for flavor. Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 So Roughnecks pretty much took some of the bug designs from the movie, a little bit from the novel, and made its own thing. Now it looks the film version is taking stuff from Roughnecks(the crashing dropship, parts of the armor). I'm not all that excited about this. I expected something better designwise from Aramaki. Quote
Knight26 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Hard to tell, but I don't care for the power armor from what I have seen. Also the audio has shades of Armor and Forever War in the dialogue Quote
VF5SS Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 He is THE ENGINE Felix nooooooooo Jack Crow stories lawl Quote
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