Mommar Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) However, I do like how some of the pro modellers in Japan have been adapting the VF-11B style booster packs into the VF-19A designs. It'd be interesting to see the same applied to the S/F This is what I was thinking of doing, except with the P because the S/F doesn't have an easy attachment point like the P does (or hopefully will) with those shoulder speakers. Leg packs are another thing entirely. I'm not sure what to do about those. Edited August 27, 2012 by Mommar Quote
Benbot Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Hmmm... something doesn't look quite right... I'm new, so actually I don't know what doesn't look right. Can you elaborate? Quote
Mommar Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 As far as i can tell the only issue he could have is that the Strike Cannon is on the left instead of right side. Or maybe the fact this thing is posed with both the Super/Strike Pack and Stands, neither of which you can find for sale anymore,. Quote
Knightdramon Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 Silly question...but where's a sticker index guide for the VF19S? I've got a huge sticker in hand and the only indication on which decal goes where is...a miniaturized decal of the VF19S from various angles... Quote
VF5SS Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 do these help? It's from the book those markings are based on. Quote
Reïvaj Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 do these help? It's from the book those markings are based on. Yes, indeed. Quote
takatoys Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Finally, after more than a year released, got a Yamato Fire Valkyrie from HKCollectibles. What a deal! Cheapest price I've seen (US$168). I got a shipping discount somehow (guess they are trying to hook me up with the store) and the total I paid was US$186 reaching my house in only 5 days! (Regular air mail from HK to South America) It's been a while since I bought a new valk and this Fire Valk is bomba!. Beautiful craftmanship, it shines really nice. This is a nice preview of how the next YF-19 will look. Even if you are not a fan of Macross 7, you must get this one before is gone. I think this is the second reissue and won't be there anymore when it sells out. My budget is short for more valks this year, but I will definitely buy the other VF-19s when they get on sale next year. Edited August 29, 2012 by takatoys Quote
Benbot Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 How likely is it that the VF-19P will be in matte finish? Is that an impossibility with this mold? I really don't like the toy-esque shininess of the other VF-19 releases. Quote
Reïvaj Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 How likely is it that the VF-19P will be in matte finish? Is that an impossibility with this mold? I really don't like the toy-esque shininess of the other VF-19 releases. So I'd say you won't like the new VF-19P. Quote
Archer Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 How likely is it that the VF-19P will be in matte finish? Is that an impossibility with this mold? I really don't like the toy-esque shininess of the other VF-19 releases. I recall during the initial forum discussions regarding the VF-19 kai that it was stated that the actual molds in which the plastic is poured are designed to only acomodate a "shiny" finish. So if they're still using the same mold, which I'm sure they are, albeit with a little re-tooling, then the end result will stay shined. Sorry man, I like the matte finishes too Quote
Kurisama Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Why is no one suggesting giving it a flat coat? When I get my 19F and 19P, I will attempt it - or have I missed a cautionary tale somewhere? Quote
Mommar Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I wonder if the white will offset that shininess of make it worse? Quote
Reïvaj Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Yamato's plastics are of better quality than Bandai's; if you liked the look of the new VF-25s this VF-19P will be great. Quote
mechaninac Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 How likely is it that the VF-19P will be in matte finish? Is that an impossibility with this mold? I really don't like the toy-esque shininess of the other VF-19 releases. I recall during the initial forum discussions regarding the VF-19 kai that it was stated that the actual molds in which the plastic is poured are designed to only acomodate a "shiny" finish. So if they're still using the same mold, which I'm sure they are, albeit with a little re-tooling, then the end result will stay shined. Sorry man, I like the matte finishes too Finely sandy textured surfaces yield a flat/matte look. The specific type of texture determines how matte. Polished surfaces yield a glossy look. The finer the polish the glossier the surface. When you're in the process of designing a mold tool you have to make a decision on what surface treatment to give the surfaces of the cavities into which the molten plastic are injected. Yamato decided from the onset that the toy would be shiny so they had the tool makers polish all the surfaces that are outward facing on the toy to a mirror finish; this means that there is no way to produce the parts in anything other than high gloss. In order for the P to be made matte would require redoing all the highly polished areas with an acid etch or other process that would give these surfaces the irregular sandy texture that would cause light to scatter instead of reflecting. There is no way that Yamato would make a whole new set of tools to produce the P version, and changing the existing tools in any way would 1) prevent them from ever issuing reissues of the Kay, S or F variants in their glossy incarnations if just the texture is changed, and 2) eliminate the possibility of making those models entirely if the molds are retooled to P component specs. What Yamato will do, what they have done for the S and F, is to have new molds made for the specific versions... no molds are changed as most of the parts are shared, and just the parts needed for the new toys are tooled for the new production; and since the shared parts come out glossy from their mold(s), the new tools must also be polished to the same standard so that they match. Long story short, to answer your question, It is an impossibility to go back and forth between gloss and matte on the same injection mold tools... the finish is cut into the steel. Quote
Loop Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I know a lot of us actually prefer the matte finis on our Yamato valks, but these valks were meant to have a glossy finish to begin with. I also read that Kawamori-san said they must be in a gloss finish. If you watch the show really closely you will see that the VF-19 variants are actually glossy. I find it easier to tell in one of the later episodes the one where max de-folds close to the surface. Was the episode called Operation Stargazer? If you watch Emerald forces canyon run and look closely at the color you can see the reflection effect in the animation. I was kinda bummed initially when I found out they were gloss, but I am really impressed by the 19's that are in my collection and really can't complain. Quote
Chronocidal Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 So, what day is the VF-19F supposed to come out? I'm anxious to get that one now. Quote
Kurisama Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 So I noticed on the Macrossworld Facebook page that a couple of VF-19 pics were posted - but not here yet? They're the emerald force squad of 1 S type and 2 F types? So beautiful! Quote
kamadoma Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 So, what day is the VF-19F supposed to come out? I'm anxious to get that one now. Yamato's website says on the 31st. Quote
Murphy Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Well I thought I was only going o buy 1 vf-19f now I see those pics I have to buy 2 now Quote
Kurisama Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Just got my amiami payment req for the 19F... HRRRNG. Although I was expecting the hefty price tag, still is pretty shocking - approx $270AUD. Most expensive. Valk. For. Me. Ever... Quote
Murphy Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Yea apparently I just paid for my vf-19f , I'm so f'n sloshed I dont even know how much I just paid fr it. Edit: 266 USD cheaper than what I paid for the vf-19 kai Edited August 30, 2012 by Murphy Quote
Scream Man Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 i just got my AmiAMi request as well, and cant afford it. Not much i can do sadly, Ill just have to let it lapse Quote
ErikElvis Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 There they go AGAIN with the stand that you cant get. Quote
derex3592 Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I maaaaay have to pick up the newest blue and white version...those pics are suhweet Quote
Mommar Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 They're re-releasing super parts... maybe they'll re-release stands too. Quote
Scream Man Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Huh, well this mornign my wife reminded me she owed me a Birthday Present and offered to help me pay for the plane. So looks like i get my new 19 after all! Quote
Chronocidal Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Huzzah! Actually I was a little shocked with the total for this one too. Probably due to seeing the shipping lumped in, but it almost hit $300. Fortunately, this was intended to be a birthday present to myself for months, so I've got enough set aside. But I might wait on getting a VF-17D and VF-19P after all, now that the news about the VE-1 and strike pack re-releases hit. So much awesome, so little money. Quote
Kicker773 Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Glad I bought multiples of that stand. Now to make room for them in the case. Might have to box up the extra Ss Wooohoo squads on the way son! Quote
Uxi Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Wow, that pic showing all 3 really makes me want them. Quote
Loop Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Paid for mine this morning also, the price was a bit higher than I expected with shipping incl, but I can't complain I guess. C'mon America, lets get our sh!t together and fix our broken economy, so my toys will be cheaper. PayPal give us a better exchange rate also, that would help a bit too. Edited August 31, 2012 by Loop Quote
HG Blows Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 22240 jpy = $283? I was expecting 250-260 range. What happens if you don't pay your ami ami invoice? Do they black list you? Quote
Tochiro Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Some nice CAD pics just went up over on Yamatos blog http://www.yamato-toys.com/dev/cont_106/index.html Quote
Lorindor Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Finally, after more than a year released, got a Yamato Fire Valkyrie from HKCollectibles. What a deal! Cheapest price I've seen (US$168). Hasn’t it previously been on sale at HLJ? How much was it off then? In short, should I wait for the inevitable next HLJ Macross Sale? Quote
3D-Brainx Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Some nice CAD pics just went up over on Yamatos blog http://www.yamato-to..._106/index.html Nice! Pity the pics are so small Quote
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