jvmacross Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Remember, they run these things thru Kawamori... Let's just hope he doesn't blur things out... I think I'll start using "blur things out" when I really mean "f%#@ things up"........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidweezil Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Remember, they run these things thru Kawamori... Let's just hope he doesn't blur things out... Right I can see it now. When the Macross 7 blu ray comes out, this valk will be blurred in every shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 And in another revisionist tantrum.......Kawamori will decree that emerald force valks were always meant to be green....diamond force, clear.....and the pink peckers, hot pink!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 That cel is inconsistent with the screen cap of the fighter mode which shows the lasers being red like the stripes. You can't please all the people all of the time. But if you listen close you might hear an angel's voice. Whoaa Whoaa Whoaa, Whoaa Whoaa Whoaa, Whoaa Whoaa Whooooaaaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I just hope they decide to go with the close-up details in the cel, rather than the crazy nonsense shown in those other pics. Cuz.. you know.. going by the higher detail resources would make sense. This is one of those amusing cases where canon disagrees with itself. In cases like this, you just have to have the sense to go by the version of canon that isn't so freaking ugly. In this case I kinda don't care one way or the other about canon as long as it looks good. Actually.. on second thought.. You know what? The ugly red will be easy to fix/strip/whatever. But that yellow plastic will be a pain to fix.. unless I decide to make use of it. I dunno about anyone else.. but that nice green visor has me seeing bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Yeah, head lasers will be an easy fix. Can't wait to custom this one - but i have a sneaking suspicion that once in-hand, I may dig it enough to leave alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bright yellow shoulder paint? Salmon-Orange stripes and head lasers? Really? Wow. I was actually thinking of painting the head lasers grey (among other things) when I got mine. Glad there is a cel that sorta backs me up on that decision. I just hope the center laser can be taken out of the head without breaking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I dunno.. I just did a quick paint mod to it.. the yellow isn't quite perfect, but I'm more excited than ever for this one. I just need to do a decent shop job to share my plans. This thing just got 1000x more awesome looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Well, we'll see what they finally decide. The Cavaliers was painted a different, and far lighter color, at first. The Kai went through several color revisions. These pics are just rough estimates I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I hope you are right Mommar, I really want what was seen in the animation myself..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Guys remember the first shots of the VF-1J had a really washed out looking red too but that turned out fine. I wouldn't be too worried just yet It's a pretty sculpt. I'll give it that. Definitely. Got a bit of an Aquarion thing going on with the shoulders. Those ankles look brown, not yellow. The ankles and the shoulders are different colours though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I love the head sculpt - looks like a giant Isamu helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Where's the gunpod? Hopefully it comes with one even though you dont see it equipped with one in the movie Allow me to quote myself: Apparently it will come with the VF-19F/S type Gunpod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) I just hope they decide to go with the close-up details in the cel, rather than the crazy nonsense shown in those other pics. Cuz.. you know.. going by the higher detail resources would make sense. This is one of those amusing cases where canon disagrees with itself. In cases like this, you just have to have the sense to go by the version of canon that isn't so freaking ugly. In this case I kinda don't care one way or the other about canon as long as it looks good. This a million times. Since there are discrepancies in the "canon" animation (I use that term loosely because it's stupid most of the time), just make it look good, "canon" be damned...and by "look good" I mean "look good to the only person that matters...ME." Edited August 9, 2012 by xrentonx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron5864 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Does anyone have the VF-19 Master File? Is the Zola color scheme shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Too lazy to dig mine out from under my stack of Macross books but I think I remember seeing it in there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Does anyone have the VF-19 Master File? Is the Zola color scheme shown? Yes....ankles are a dijon mustard yellow.....stripes are red......body seems white, not off white....and sadly, head lasers are shown as red........but are these books canon? I think the recent release of the VF-1A Cavaliers follows the scheme shown in the VF-1 Masterfiles book...but the animation scheme is slightly different....so who knows...... Edited August 9, 2012 by jvmacross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 That color scheme is in the Master File. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Damn! Those head lasers would look so much cooler in gray like that animation cell above. That settles it, I gotta customize mine when I get around to buying this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Ok, I got an easy solution. Minimal painting, easy custom, and epic results. I just sold myself on this one. Maybe for 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Thats what I was thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Ok, I got an easy solution. Minimal painting, easy custom, and epic results. I just sold myself on this one. Maybe for 2. Holy Kawamori! So simple... yet so beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Battroid isn't bad either. It could potentially use a bit more black striping on the shoulders I think, but this is a very minimalist approach, not painting over any large chunks of the aircraft to avoid the possibility of scratching the paint. I do wish they'd get a consistent color of yellow on it at least though. I'm guessing it's from the oddball painting process on the prototype, since it wouldn't make sense to cast those parts in separate colors for the actual release. Edited August 9, 2012 by Chronocidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The yellow on the shoulders are supposed to be brighter than the ankle area. I think they went too bright on the yellow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Lovely custom, that. Are the speaker pods removable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Battroid isn't bad either. It could potentially use a bit more black striping on the shoulders I think, but this is a very minimalist approach, not painting over any large chunks of the aircraft to avoid the possibility of scratching the paint. I do wish they'd get a consistent color of yellow on it at least though. I'm guessing it's from the oddball painting process on the prototype, since it wouldn't make sense to cast those parts in separate colors for the actual release. Now that's what I'm talkin' about! So much nicer than garish Basara schemes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Ha! Eerily similar to what I wanted to do if I ever got my hands on a bird of prey 19; I don't know how if eerily is the right word, but hey - its what u get when u wanna Fokkerize your bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Lovely custom, that. Are the speaker pods removable? I'm not too concerned about them being removable, since they are shown to rotate. We at least know they're a separate piece. How they're plugged in, or whether they stay in has yet to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 well for me i like the in line version just like the anime screenshot Look closer. The stripe isn't "aligned"---it's MISSING a stripe. Start at the wings and follow the stripe forward. Where does it end? Right behind the gun port. The stripe that starts at the wing doesn't get all the way to the canard. And that's how the toy is. But the toy and most other sources ADD another stripe NEXT TO that gun port, inboard of it and going forward to the canard. The toy and the chronicle and the Macross Mecha Manual all add a separate stripe, forward and inboard of the one in the animation, to continue the striping all the way forward to the canard. There's not a single source that shows one continuous stripe going from wing to canards. There's either 2 separate stripes that split at the gun port, or one stripe that doesn't go all the way forward. ::edit:: Seems Chronocidal already mentioned this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Look closer. The stripe isn't "aligned"---it's MISSING a stripe. Start at the wings and follow the stripe forward. Where does it end? Right behind the gun port. The stripe that starts at the wing doesn't get all the way to the canard. And that's how the toy is. But the toy and most other sources ADD another stripe NEXT TO that gun port, inboard of it and going forward to the canard. The toy and the chronicle and the Macross Mecha Manual all add a separate stripe, forward and inboard of the one in the animation, to continue the striping all the way forward to the canard. There's not a single source that shows one continuous stripe going from wing to canards. There's either 2 separate stripes that split at the gun port, or one stripe that doesn't go all the way forward. ::edit:: Seems Chronocidal already mentioned this. It's probably worth noting that in all the the screen shots that show it without the stripe continuing past the wing root, the lines that denote where the stripe should be are still there. And another thing: Head laser colors. The Chronicle and M3 line arts depict them as red, as does the toy and fighter mode shots in the OVA, but the super detailed close up shots of the battroid mode color them grey. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 the VF-19P is not a cow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 And another thing: Head laser colors. The Chronicle and M3 line arts depict them as red, as does the toy and fighter mode shots in the OVA, but the super detailed close up shots of the battroid mode color them grey. Thoughts? Probably because in fighter mode the head lasers look good in red but in Battroid mode they look better in grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Honestly, I'd probably just chalk it up to sloppyness. Given how off-model every picture of the fighter mode seems to be, I don't think they were paying much attention to past reference material when they drew it. I'd almost think they drew the fighter mode partly based on the 1/65 Bandai toy of the Fire Valk. They obviously corrected the nose length, but the chunky shapes don't look anything like the Fire Valk's art did. The blocky wing glove shape especially looks bizarre, as does that weird scoopy mess of a shape they drew for the intake. Good point about the wing glove stripe continuing though. Even though they didn't draw the second half of the stripe, it looks like the outline for it is there, just not filled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I'd almost think they drew the fighter mode partly based on the 1/65 Bandai toy of the Fire Valk. They obviously corrected the nose length, but the chunky shapes don't look anything like the Fire Valk's art did. The blocky wing glove shape especially looks bizarre, as does that weird scoopy mess of a shape they drew for the intake. Good point about the wing glove stripe continuing though. Even though they didn't draw the second half of the stripe, it looks like the outline for it is there, just not filled in. I thought that too----that the shape looks off, and more like the old Bandai toy. It's just not as long/sleek as it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Honestly, I'd probably just chalk it up to sloppyness. Given how off-model every picture of the fighter mode seems to be, I don't think they were paying much attention to past reference material when they drew it. i'd hate to see you watch the works of Masami Obari if this is your attitude on 2d animation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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