DestroidsRage Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 The heroes are in a battle to destroy the bad guys, and save the city from a massive sea of oncomming Lava. The main enemy is this guy: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099061.jpg Jet calls in some of his Flying buddies to help, but theyre mostly useless. The screen pans to the Waverider rocketing past the screen: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099081.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099128.jpg Only to be grabbed and slammed into the ground by the enemy, the robot transforming as it bounces up into the air from the impact: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099148.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099187.jpg Then, as its dammaged body lands on the ground, the fast moving wall of lava consumes it: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099225.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099251.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099274.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099322.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1070099354.jpg Pretty cool eh? Short, but sweet, cameo. -BEN-MAN- Quote
Sebastian Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 WHOOOW! That only shows the unusefull piece of crap the Zeta G really is. Too bad, poor Zeta. Quote
DestroidsRage Posted November 29, 2003 Author Posted November 29, 2003 Oh... And I was also wondering if they made a toy of the Land Commander 5 from Machine Robo. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/uploads/po...-1069591025.jpg Being that its by far the coolest robot in the entire show. Someone told me they made a toy out of it, but it looked absolutely nothing like it and was called "Grungy" in the states. http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/00/f6/ab/c9_1.JPG However... Seems there were two big combining robots from Machine Robo!! The Battle Armor 5, and the Land Commander 5. The ugly pile that is "Grungy" is the Battle Armor 5. The superior one, the Land Commander 5, WAS made into a toy. You can see it in the far lower right hand corner of this image: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9228/mrobo2.jpg So there WAS a somewhat passable Land Commander 5 toy. Betcha it would cost you an arm and a leg to aquire though. And it doesnt even look all that bad. Head is wrong, colors are only somewhat correct, the general build has some faults, but you can still tell that its the Land Commander 5. Which is all that matters ^___^ So at any rate! -BEN-MAN- Quote
Vinny Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 Hey, is that form the Machine Robo HK sets? If so, how are they? Good subs? Quote
ComicKaze Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 Man, I really miss that 80s animation. Even in such low-quality middle frames, you get the classic 80s viceral speed lines and feel the energy from the thrusters and lava because they are just drawn so stylishly. Quote
DestroidsRage Posted November 29, 2003 Author Posted November 29, 2003 (edited) Vinny: Theyre from the HK's, yes. Great video quality. Openings and endings. Decent Menu. No extras so far. Subtitles are perfectly understandable, just typically messed up, and the names are often a bit wrong. The Devil Saturn 6, are the Devil Satan 6, etc. Overall extremely worth buying. You'll get bored with it halfway through the first boxed set, but just keep going, it'll pick back up again. Good childish fun. Theyre from these HK's to be exact (I think theres more than one set of HKs floating around out there): http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/c4/ea/c6_1.JPG ComicKaze: Yes. Ashi Production makes the greatest animation I think. Theyre the ones that dont really /shade/ anything. They just put "glintys" and "shinys" /all over the bloody place/. Makes it look awesome. If you'll notice... Baldios, Goshogun, Dorvack, Dancougar, Machine Robo, Borgman, and Macross 7, all have that Shiny Glinty artstyle for the mechanics. Guess why! Ashi Production worked heavily on every bloody one. That isnt a "typical" artstyle. Thats Ashi's artstyle. Theyre one of my favorite groups ^__^. Absolutely everything they've ever done is at least pretty damn cool. -BEN-MAN- Edited November 29, 2003 by DestroidsRage Quote
Duymon Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 The old Machine robo is like a million times cooler than the refurbed machine robo that's showing these days BTW poor Zeta gundam I liked the gundam MkII more anyways Quote
DestroidsRage Posted November 29, 2003 Author Posted November 29, 2003 (edited) I want to see the other Machine Robo shows!! And I dont mean Rescue! I want to see the Machine Robo OVA Special! http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...a%207%20(L).jpg http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...a%209%20(L).jpg http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...%2010%20(L).jpg http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...%2011%20(L).jpg http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...%2012%20(L).jpg And I really bloody want to see 'Machine Robo: Runaway Battle Hackers.'!!! http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...obo-1%20(L).jpg http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...obo-2%20(L).jpg http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/super%20...obo-3%20(L).jpg And for that matter, two of the lesser known Machine Robo OVAs: Leina: Wolf Sword Legend. OVA 3 episodes. Leina & Laika: Lightning Trap. OVA 1 episode. And nope.. I dont know any more info about that those unknown OVA's than you do... If your a Machine Robo fan, and know the characters.. that one OVA looks bloody hilarious. And I super want to see Runaway Battle Hackers! Drill and Jet are even in it as somewhat important characters! -BEN-MAN- Edited November 29, 2003 by DestroidsRage Quote
ComicKaze Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 LOL Destroid's Rage, I've been trying for years to put together something that could describe that glinty-shininess instead of shading in 80s anime and that's the most concrete thing I've gotten so far. But other studios also used that technique as it was proliferant in the 80s for almost all animes. Heck, even the Transformers uses it. I hate how they've moved to boring 2-tone shading and CG cel-animation these days. Everything looks so flat and boring. The shapes are too rigid. Quote
Anubis Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 Pretty cool. I love it when shows do homages like that. Even if it got swatted like a gnat. Quote
DestroidsRage Posted November 29, 2003 Author Posted November 29, 2003 Anime studios today are too realistic. They rely too much on standard shading techniques. They want to make the lighting look "natural", look like "real life", and thats a freakin cryin shame. Big eyes, crazy hair, far out plots.. Anime SHOULDNT be realistic. At least not entirely. So what if it doesnt make a damn bit of sense how a robot can be shining and glinting like its being struck with light from 98 high power light bulbs? Sure, it doesnt look natural. But it looks COOL. If you've ever watched 80s anime, you'll realise that the shading present on the mechanics, does not match up with the glintys and shinys, which in itself, doesnt make a damn bit of sense. But who cares??? I really hope the improbability of such shiny glinty machines isnt why it was stopped being used as an art technique. Because who cares?? It looks BEAUTIFUL. I think. And your right ComicKaze, but I think Ashi Productions went over the top with them. Whereas AIC (Dangaioh, Gall Force, etc.) Just used them kind of as "the norm". Wheras with Ashi Production, if you were to actually see one of their robots in real life, like the Dancougar, you'd burn your eyes out it would be so reflective, LOL!! ^__^ So yah, lots of other studios did it, but I dont think quite as much as Ashi. -BEN-MAN- Quote
ComicKaze Posted November 29, 2003 Posted November 29, 2003 Anime studios today are too realistic. They rely too much on standard shading techniques. They want to make the lighting look "natural", look like "real life", and thats a freakin cryin shame.Big eyes, crazy hair, far out plots.. Anime SHOULDNT be realistic. At least not entirely. So what if it doesnt make a damn bit of sense how a robot can be shining and glinting like its being struck with light from 98 high power light bulbs? Sure, it doesnt look natural. But it looks COOL. If you've ever watched 80s anime, you'll realise that the shading present on the mechanics, does not match up with the glintys and shinys, which in itself, doesnt make a damn bit of sense. But who cares??? I really hope the improbability of such shiny glinty machines isnt why it was stopped being used as an art technique. Because who cares?? It looks BEAUTIFUL. I think. And your right ComicKaze, but I think Ashi Productions went over the top with them. Whereas AIC (Dangaioh, Gall Force, etc.) Just used them kind of as "the norm". Wheras with Ashi Production, if you were to actually see one of their robots in real life, like the Dancougar, you'd burn your eyes out it would be so reflective, LOL!! ^__^ So yah, lots of other studios did it, but I dont think quite as much as Ashi. -BEN-MAN- Everything just had an awesome wax job in the 80s And there were pulsating strobes lighting them up from all angles! Gorgeous! The energy effects are also wonderful, being so spastic and flying all over the place. They don't draw lasers and explosions like they used to. Quote
DestroidsRage Posted November 30, 2003 Author Posted November 30, 2003 They dont! Which is crap! Eventually they'll realise that the 80's style of animation is SUPERIOR. 80s Animation Superior. Constructicons inferior. LOL ^__^ -BEN-MAN- Quote
ComicKaze Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 They dont! Which is crap! Eventually they'll realise that the 80's style of animation is SUPERIOR.80s Animation Superior. Constructicons inferior. LOL ^__^ -BEN-MAN- I fear dearly that the trend is going otherwise. They are turning more and more to CG and with that, the human element is increasingly lost in the process. Sadly, I don't think we'll see 80s style animation ever again. Boohoo. :-( (breaks out his Gall Force and Saber Rider and even American cartoons like MASK and Centurions) Animation is becoming an uncharismatic bore like Soundwave No, nevermind, Soundwave is cool. 21st Century animation is not. Quote
Duymon Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 I miss the glint too The shinies are probably why DYRL still looks better to me than today's macross offerings Today's animation is flat at practical Quote
Pat Payne Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 Am I much mistaken, or were the Machine Robo toys released here as GoBots (just with a different cartoon to go with them)? And I agree partly with you, Duymon. A lot of anime today is kinda flat. But there is still hope. Cowboy Bebop, Excel Saga and anything by GAINAX still have life in them. Quote
Radd Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 Check out 'Captain Herlock Outside Legend: The Endless Odyssey', a brand new Herlock OVA that's coming out on DVD soon, for some great 80's style animation. Quote
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