Southern Cross COULD have looked VERY different...

[Tochiro]

Came across a new Matt Alt article today in which he discusses Aki Uchiyama - a loli artist who was originally considered for the role of Southern Cross character designer.

Theres a link to an early concept sketch too.

http://altjapan.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/06/lolicomplicated.html

[VF-18S Hornet]

Came across a new Matt Alt article today in which he discusses Aki Uchiyama - a loli artist who was originally considered for the role of Southern Cross character designer.

Theres a link to an early concept sketch too.

http://altjapan.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/06/lolicomplicated.html

Okay How could Southern Cross be a sequel the MAcross and Orguss, just because they ahd they title of Superdimension in it. Any way I never once liked Southern Cross when it was a part of Robotech, (please don't skewer me) the characters never did fit and the plot sucked, neve botherd to buy the original japaness audio of it when ADV released it along with Mospeada. And Mospeada was fairly better.

Edited June 26, 2011 by VF-18S Hornet

[sketchley]

Okay How could Southern Cross be a sequel the MAcross and Orguss, just because they ahd they title of Superdimension in it.

Not so much a sequel but as part of the Super Dimension SF mecha anime moniker.

[Einherjar]

No offense, but eww.

[Renato]

Thanks for the article. Uchiyama was a big deal in Japan, but he certainly was not the only pioneer of the loli thing, there were many more like Hideo Azuma etc.

As to how SC would have turned out... Well I imagine something quite similar to the lusting that resulted from the predominance of Reina Stoll or however you spell her name, from Machine Robo.

One thing that bugs me is that the article mentions that Tatsunoko produced Orguss, when it was actually TMS with Artland. Surprising, since Matt usually knows his stuff.

Edited June 29, 2011 by Renato

[Marzan]

Southern Cross would have looked very different with that kind of character designs. And I think it would have been hard to sell that stuff to Macek and pass it off as part of Robotech.

[EXO]

LOL. you mean like Orguss? So they had to switch it to Mospeada. I wonder what the next cartoon in line was? Gall Force?

[Agent ONE]

Where are BSU and 1stBorder? Those guys would miss work to discuss southern cross on MW (BSU rolling on the floor laughing about how bad it is).

Southern Cross suffers from more than just bad character design. It has a poor story, poor dialogue (bad in original, and laughable in RT), ridiculous mechanized designs, no point, and no real end... Other than that, its great.

[TheLoneWolf]

That's an interesting bit of trivia. I think Uchiyama's loli designs would've been in stark contrast with Southern Cross' serious atmosphere. Ultimately, Southern Cross would've still been hamstrung with bland writing and equally bland mecha designs; I doubt Uchiyama's character designs would've been able to save it. Though the show might've earned an honorable mention in the history of anime as "that show that had lolis piloting transformable tanks."

Also, if Uchiyama had done Souther Cross' character designs, then the show might not have had it's futuristic sengoku-style armor. That's assuming that the show's actual character designer, Kogawa Tomonori, also designed the armor and not Ammonite.

Where are BSU and 1stBorder? Those guys would miss work to discuss southern cross on MW (BSU rolling on the floor laughing about how bad it is).

BSU exiled himself from MW (can't really blame him!) and I think 1st Border is on permanent suspension or something.

[Shaorin]

Thanks for the article. Uchiyama was a big deal in Japan, but he certainly was not the only pioneer of the loli thing, there were many more like Hideo Azuma etc.

kind of simplistic and cartoony, by today's comparatively realistic, detailed standards,

but one can nonetheless clearly see the early foundations of today's current form of the Lolicon genre developing here;

Hideo Azuma works;

(that's a great picture there, IMHO)

(and so is that!! i've always LOVED that style of schoolgirl uniform!!)

then there was the more popular and generally well known loli series of the eighties, such as "Minky Momo" and "Creamy Mami"

Minky Momo;

Creamy Mami;

Edited June 29, 2011 by Shaorin