Omegablue Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 I remember when last year the Kai Solid Snake came out, I had this friend who has a friend that is well connected to the toy world, and he had already seen the Raiden for Rising of this line... Yawn... I really would like to meet some day these friends of friends always connected to every toy company... No disrepect Renato, I've always valued your views. But is this friend of yours really in with Bandai? I'm just really surprised someone in Bandai would leak such scandalous info. And it does contrast with the near accuracy of the YF-29.
Matrix Soul Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Well, an "insider" friend of mine spoke to bandai and he told me what they told him. Oh ok, so at this point is just another case of "He told me". Not that I'm doubting your friend, but I'd rather wait for the official word (or pics in this case).
charger69 Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 Oh ok, so at this point is just another case of "He told me". Not that I'm doubting your friend, but I'd rather wait for the official word (or pics in this case). If they have such a good Photoshop artist, they might have good toy engineers too
ron5864 Posted July 4, 2011 Posted July 4, 2011 From the photos, it does looks like the Ver 2.0 does have more surface details, similar to the 1/72 model kit. The 1/60 that I have lack panel lines on the wing and upper fuselage area.
Alex Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 From the photos, it does looks like the Ver 2.0 does have more surface details, similar to the 1/72 model kit. The 1/60 that I have lack panel lines on the wing and upper fuselage area. I'm not making any judgments on these photos based on Renato's information, which i'm inclined to take sodium-free. Impossible to know what's photoshopped or not at the moment.
Uxi Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Wow, I'm impressed. That looks really good. I was never a big fan of Alto's, but thinking I might want it. Armored. And Armoed Ozma. I don't particularly care for the Super or Tornado packs, though Armored is awesome.
Jasonc Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I never really put too much stock into first out photos anyways, so while they look great, it doesn't really convince me of anything. Like the YF-29, it was the muc later photos that showed all the promise and what the goods really were. So, with that, I'll stay ready, and save my comments till then on the design.
Swoosh Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 From the photos, it does looks like the Ver 2.0 does have more surface details, similar to the 1/72 model kit. The 1/60 that I have lack panel lines on the wing and upper fuselage area. Even I am happy with YF-29's surface details, but I don't think it still has far less details than the model, the type of plastic they use are different and they can't put those ultra fine panel lines on it.
nanoplasm Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Catalog scan. Rough translation below. Point 1: Molding details oversaw by Kawamori Point 2: Dual mode cockpit (single / double seater) Point 3: Improvements to intake details Point 4: Gunpod can be attached in fighter mode Point 5: Locking mechanism added for stability in Gerwalk mode Point 6: Leg knee joints improvement for Gerwalk mode (really rough translation, but picture = 1000 words) Point 7: Letter "A" pose for the legs in Gerwalk mode (again, rough translation, picture speaks for itself) Point 8: Blade is removable when shield is attached to arm? Point 9: Crotch improvement? in Battroid mode Point 10: Finger Articulate with alternate gripping version for gunpod?
Reïvaj Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Nice find, nanoplasm! Thank you very much! Since Bandai released the VF-27 I was sure they had addressed the shortcomings of their DX 25 line and would produce a V.2 sooner or later, an “evolution” as they point out. Too bad it wasn’t soon enough as to be able to sell it with the new merchandise related to the 1st movie like the tornado pack. The shown improvements are very obvious, there’s something about some proportions in fighter mode and the landing gears as well. Edited July 5, 2011 by Reïvaj
Chronocidal Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Point 11: The feet are shiny? Very nice to see that the front landing gear is now of a reasonable design. I actually don't know which direction of retraction is actually canon though. Gear used for catapult launches generally have retractors behind the gear to hold them in place, but I guess they don't need those anymore. I like the gerwalk support, hopefully that's a preemptive measure against the weight of future super and armor packs. I love how the gunpod fits now too, nice and snug under the belly. The trick now will be to see if they can pull of the same for Michael's gun. Also, is it just me, or does the gunpod look bigger? Oh, and it looks like they went with the model design for the ventral fins. I think in the side comparison of the old and new gerwalk modes, you can see the tips of the fins poking out behind the calves. Don't know if that will cause any issues for armor down the line, but I'm happy to see them properly sized and angled for fighter mode. Edited July 5, 2011 by Chronocidal
skull_leader001 Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 believe that Bandai will release a vf-27 ver 2.0 ??????could just add the new hands(articulated) in the package of the VF-25!!
Ignacio Ocamica Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 believe that Bandai will release a vf-27 ver 2.0 ??????could just add the new hands(articulated) in the package of the VF-25!! We totally need an improved VF-27, basically where the legs attach to the crotch!!!
Reïvaj Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 [...] Oh, and it looks like they went with the model design for the ventral fins. I think in the side comparison of the old and new gerwalk modes, you can see the tips of the fins poking out behind the calves. Don't know if that will cause any issues for armor down the line, but I'm happy to see them properly sized and angled for fighter mode. Chronocidal.....awesome eagle eye you've got there!
ron5864 Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Hey wow, the tolerances seems tighter with less gaps between the cockpit module and the fuselage. The landing gear is a big improvement along with the hip point location. The original hip point was too low.
UN Spacy Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Catalog scan. Rough translation below. Point 1: Molding details oversaw by Kawamori Awesome find nanoplasm! But does this also mean Kawamori approved the version 1.0's?
Dobber Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 Nice!!! We need a bigger scan though. As Reivaj stated, I'd like to know what they are saying in the fighter profile comparison. Chris
Chronocidal Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 It looks like they're comparing the length of the forward fuselage, but that doesn't make much sense. It is clear how much higher the nose is above the ground though, mostly due to the forward landing gear. The second arrow is showing how much higher the legs are I think, giving a much thinner profile around the wing gloves.
Dobber Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I agree, the forward arrow doesn't appear to be any longer, which is why I'm curious about it. Chris
GU-11 Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 I guess that DMK OP and DA-28 Striker OP I planned to buy are going in the back burner. This VF-25 MUST BE BOUGHT!
Matrix Soul Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Well, an "insider" friend of mine spoke to bandai and he told me what they told him. The reason why I doubt your friend so much is because I have the YF-29, and for them to implement the changes in a NEW VF-25 is not impossible at all, in fact it's very possible, so I don't know why Bandai would have to photoshop the picture to make it look like the CG.
m0n5t3r Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 ... so I don't know why Bandai would have to photoshop the picture to make it look like the CG. coz they're a bunch of lazy sons-of-b!tches that just want to take our money as quickly as possible through preorders...
Raptor One Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 I'm kind of hoping those pics are phoyoshopped, so that the fighter mode ends up being closer to the lineart. I have no doubt in Bandai's ability to make an extremely accurate VF-25 tho
Lolicon Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) If those photos are indeed Photoshopped and Bandai releases actual production photos that look nothing like what we've seen, you always have the option (and I know this sounds like the ravings of a madman) to cancel your preorder. Scandalous! HLJ and Amiami will let you cancel, at least. Hobby Search changed their cancellation policy a few months back but I forgot what it was. Edited July 6, 2011 by Lolicon
Omegablue Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Well, with those comparison Batroid pics, guess we can discard the Photoshop rumour?
badboy00z Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 This just shows how terrible the V1 is. By itself it looks horrible but with the V2 next to it, it looks like a cheap knockoff. lol I don't understand why they can't do it right the 1st time.
Kyp Durron Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 We need a larger scan, but from what I can tell, it seems that the wings are now straight. -Kyp
Getsuga Tenshou Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Amiami is still taking pre-orders. Usually, pre orders would have been full by now. This would mean there's still lots of skeptical potential buyers out there(including me). landing gear check... pre order.!!
charger69 Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Usually, pre orders would have been full by now. Scheduled for late october! I think we still have time for a decision... Edited July 7, 2011 by charger69
nexxstrait Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Tha question is: what were they thinking when tooling version 1? Wasn't Kawamori involved back then? Very unprofessional... Lucky me I did get only 1 v1 VF25. Won't get the new F, but I could buy a new Ozma Armored bundle Edited July 7, 2011 by nexxstrait
Kyp Durron Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Scheduled for late october! I think we still have time for a decision... Which is exactly why I take that "rumor" that those pictures are fake with a whole bottle of salt. If it's going to be ready in October, less than 4 months from NOW, that means they're past waaay past the design phase and have a painted, fully transformable sample which is what we're seeing. If you look at the pictures carefully, especially in fighter mode, you can see that Alto's red markings are hand painted on. -Kyp Edited July 7, 2011 by Kyp Durron
Kicker773 Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 That sucks for me.. well sort of since I went a little crazy a few months back and got every single VF25 for every single available accessories out there. Oh well I guess I'll just display them and never touch them again lol
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