anubis20 Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Am I doing something wrong with my 25F 2.0.... In battroid mode the damn neck plate likes to pop back down at the slightest touch. I try to move the arms and it pops down. Is it supposed to lock somewhere?
sidearmsalpha Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 How are the VF-27's holding up with all of you? I totally avoided the VF-25's and only picked up the VF-27 Brera/Grace. Have kept them in the boxes the whole time since I don't have display room for them. Has there been any info about V.2's on these?
Chronocidal Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 I kind of doubt they'll bother to revisit the VF-27, but I wish they would. Now, the VF-25 kind of puts it to shame, due to the better hip/crotch joint. I put the side by side earlier, and the VF-25 just looks much more stable/posable. It looks fine in fighter/gerwalk, but battroid doesn't compare too well. Sadly though, the shoulders on my VF-27 are limp as wet pasta now. It's been in the box in my closet for several months, always in fighter mode, and the joints are completely lifeless. The hips aren't so bad, but the arms are useless.
Archer Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 A little off topic, but do the joints of the VF-27 degrade over time in the box as well. I've been thinking of getting one MISB off EvilBay, but I don't want to take the chance if they degrade in fighter mode in the boxes alone Also, I too would like a v.2 vf-27 in similar quality to these new VF-25's
Actar Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Sadly though, the shoulders on my VF-27 are limp as wet pasta now. Yup, I can confirm this problem. Mine are horrendously weak as well and can't even hold their own weight, let alone the VF-27's humongous gun.
Tking22 Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 So the VF-25S is next, but what after that? When did Bandai release the original RVF-25? I don't remember how all the original valks released and if they're releasing the new ones the same way, but I'm really only interested in the RVF-25, I can't wait for that thing.
anime52k8 Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 this is just speculation based on personal experiance, but I think what happens on the metal on metal joints in the hips and shoulders is that there are little hard rubber inserts that are meant to provide the majority of the friction in the joint. These appear to dry out and shrink over a short period of time , leaving the joints loose. That said, the shoulder/hip joints on the VF-27 are super easy to take apart. On mine I disassembled the toy and added nail polish to all the joints in question. they're still reasonably stiff after a fair amount of transformation and play.
ALEXD Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 So can someone tell me what is soo bad about v1 and what is soo good about v2?
kanedaestes Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Really??? V.1 is fat, not line accurate, wrong hip placement, no crotch lock, floppy mess, can't extend wing fully, work gerwalk ever, bad articulation. Plus when you add Fast packs or armor parts all these issues become 2x worse. V.2 fixes all previous issues, thinner and more accurate to the CG model and pretty much fixes all previous issues. I said that twice because it's important. There are some comparison pics on here if you want to look For those of you who like comparisons Here's a good example. Version 2 on the left Version 1 on the right
anime52k8 Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) So can someone tell me what is soo bad about v1 and what is soo good about v2? The v.1 is an ugly, under-engineered piece of crap that literally self destructs do to bad design work and poorly implemented add-ons. Where as the v.2 is an accurate, faithful recreation of the vehicle seen in the show that locks together sturdily in all 3 modes and manages to incorperate features, gimmicks and design elements that should have been on the toy in the first place. :edit: to take Reïvaj's comparison further: this is what it should look like: I think it's pretty obvious which gets it more right. Edited October 30, 2011 by anime52k8
Tking22 Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Really??? V.1 is fat, not line accurate, wrong hip placement, no crotch lock, floppy mess, can't extend wing fully, work gerwalk ever, bad articulation. Plus when you add Fast packs or armor parts all these issues become 2x worse. V.2 fixes all previous issues, thinner and more accurate to the CG model and pretty much fixes all previous issues. I said that twice because it's important. There are some comparison pics on here if you want to look Here's a good example. Version 2 on the left Version 1 on the right As many times as I've seen the comparison shots, it still gets me how night and day the differences are, I can't wait for RVF-25!!!!!!!!!!
kanedaestes Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Some vids also for comparison Version 1 Version 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=leyzhPrG2Rk
Reïvaj Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 This comparison pic is very useful to see the differences:
ALEXD Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I lost my appetite how frickin ugly the version 1 is! ugh its has kardashian hips! fat and round and has sculeocis! thanks guys for extending my knowledge, soo happy i didnt get the v1, but the v2 is sold out everywhere hlj even discontinued it
UN Spacy Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Make sure y'all subscribe to that fine gentleman that reviewed the new VF-25.
Tking22 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Make sure y'all subscribe to that fine gentleman that reviewed the new VF-25. I didn't know that was your channel, will you be reviewing all the renewal VF-25's as you get them?
UN Spacy Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I didn't know that was your channel, will you be reviewing all the renewal VF-25's as you get them? There's just too much coming down the pipeline. Aside from the S which I have preordered...I don't think I'll be getting the G or RVF at the moment.
Tking22 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 There's just too much coming down the pipeline. Aside from the S which I have preordered...I don't think I'll be getting the G or RVF at the moment. Commence Star Wars bluray Return of the Jedi added Vader dialogue-NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Chronocidal Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Preorder for the S is back up at HLJ! Just grabbed one, so I'll definitely be in for those group buys on the armor/super parts. Edited October 31, 2011 by Chronocidal
pud333 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Preorder for the S is back up at HLJ! Just grabbed one, so I'll definitely be in for those group buys on the armor/super parts. wow, they still haven't fixed the name. YF-25S.
David Hingtgen Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Thanks for the heads-up, just pre-ordered mine, too. And I'm also looking for any potential future group-buy-buddies.
MacrossJunkie Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Preorder for the S is back up at HLJ! Just grabbed one, so I'll definitely be in for those group buys on the armor/super parts. Thanks for the heads up. Put in my pre-order. Was contemplating putting in a pre-order at Anime-Export over the past few days, but they require the payment immediately and I didn't want to pay that just yet.
UN Spacy Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I'd definitely be interested in a group buy too.
Tking22 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I just want to know how long until the super parts will be announced, will they release the whole VF-25 renewal line then release the parts? I don't really remember how they did ti last time, either way I'd be in for at least a set, maybe two.
Kurisama Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Thanks for the heads up. Put in my pre-order. Was contemplating putting in a pre-order at Anime-Export over the past few days, but they require the payment immediately and I didn't want to pay that just yet. Ah well, I always go for HLJ for purchases - but I wanted the 25S badly enough that I went thru Anime-export. In fact, got my VF-25F from them today!
ff95gj Posted October 31, 2011 Author Posted October 31, 2011 I just want to know how long until the super parts will be announced, will they release the whole VF-25 renewal line then release the parts? I don't really remember how they did ti last time, either way I'd be in for at least a set, maybe two. What Bandai did last time? Probably not in the right order, but this is how they released the DX ver 1 line: VF-25F (naked) VF-25S (naked) VF-25F Super Parts, Tamashii Limited VF-25S Super Parts, Tamashii Limited VF-25G (Super mode) Bundle RVF-25 (Super mode) Bundle Gallia Fold Booster + Speaker Set, Tamashii Limited Ghost, Tamashii Limited VF-25F (Super mode, Movie color) Bundle VF-25S (Armored mode) Bundle VF-25F Armor Parts, Tamashii Limited VF-27 Gamma VF-27 Beta, Tamashii Limited VF-25F (Tornado mode) Bundle VF-25F Tornado Parts, Tamashii Limited Weapons Pack, Tamashii Limited VF-25G (Tornado mode) Bundle There are also the Macross Quarter and VB-6 too. If you observe it, there is no pattern whether - if a standalone version is released, there would / would not be a bundled version. (e.g. the VF-25S and the VF-25S Armored) - if a bundled version is released, there would/ would not be a standalone version. (e.g. the VF-25F Tornado mode and the Tornado Parts)
hobbes221 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Pre-ordered the -25S as well, and am still waiting for my -25F to show up. Thanks for the heads-up!
David Hingtgen Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Hmmn. According to that list, Ozma's armor was never available separately. That'll suck if that's the case this time, as I want his armor 100x more than I want the super-pack-boosters.
Tking22 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Hmmn. According to that list, Ozma's armor was never available separately. That'll suck if that's the case this time, as I want his armor 100x more than I want the super-pack-boosters. This.
Chronocidal Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I thought the announcement posted earlier confirmed that both Alto's super packs and Ozma's armor will be web exclusives? Unless it listed super packs for both, in which case, whoops. I really don't know why they would bother with Ozma super packs though, considering they're shown in the anime for all of a few minutes in one episode.
MacrossJunkie Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Hmmn. According to that list, Ozma's armor was never available separately. That'll suck if that's the case this time, as I want his armor 100x more than I want the super-pack-boosters. In the case of the renewal version, they say it is a separate web-exclusive release and not a bundle which is why there is a scramble to pre-order the 25S now. What will suck is if they later go "we changed our mind, we will release it as a bundle too!" after people have bought the stand-alone 25S and then paid the overly inflated price for the separate web-exclusive armor with shipping for that as well. At this point, though, I wouldn't be overly surprised if they went and did that. Pissed off? Yes, but not surprised. I hate that there is no rhyme or reason to their releases.
Chronocidal Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Well, if we do get a group buy going with someone who can get them from the shop, I don't think the prices will be near anything like the eventual prices of them on ebay. I don't know who has run those in the past, but I'd be very grateful for any volunteers.
MacrossJunkie Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Well, if we do get a group buy going with someone who can get them from the shop, I don't think the prices will be near anything like the eventual prices of them on ebay. I don't know who has run those in the past, but I'd be very grateful for any volunteers. Oh, I wasn't even thinking about the ebay prices. Just the prices for the past sets that were available in stores that were selling the web exclusive stuff like the galia IV and ghost sets. Those were something like 9000+ yen in places like anime-export and overdrive. I'm definitely in for a group buy of the armor when it becomes available.
Kurisama Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 In a perfect world I'd order Ozuma's armour, the tornado pack for Alto and a CF VF-25A with regular super pack off HLJ. Oh and a VF-171 while I'm at it, what the hey.
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