Papa Rat Posted March 30 Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Big s said: I kinda like em. It’s a bit heavy on the texture, but not bad. Maybe try some dry brushing of a lighter color over the area the light would hit and it might make things a little less muddy looking Totally. I think the texture at this scale is not working. Overkill. I like the idea of adding some highlights. It’s so murky, the colors are all the same value at this point. It needs something to pop. Quote
Big s Posted March 31 Posted March 31 7 hours ago, Papa Rat said: Totally. I think the texture at this scale is not working. Overkill. I like the idea of adding some highlights. It’s so murky, the colors are all the same value at this point. It needs something to pop. Yeah, but I don’t think it needs a lot, just a little highlighting to bring it out Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big s said: Yeah, but I don’t think it needs a lot, just a little highlighting to bring it out I hit it with a light gray/yellow ochre. It really gave some decent definition in what’s a very dark paint scheme. I need to keep practicing. Less is more. really appreciate the suggestion. ✌️ Edited March 31 by Papa Rat Quote
sketchley Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Papa Rat said: I hit it with a light gray/yellow ochre. It really gave some decent definition in what’s a very dark paint scheme. I need to keep practicing. Less is more. really appreciate the suggestion. ✌️ Much improved! I've stumbled on the "less is more" the hard way as well on my Death Star II: https://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/topic/35120-whats-lying-on-your-workbench-mk-iv/page/433/#comment-1725046 I don't think I mentioned it at the time, but in addition to having to wipe off the heavy layer of pencil lead from the surface of the model, I also went over the larger blotches of red with a 2B or 4B pencil to break them into smaller swatches—to mixed results (pencil could only achieve darkish-red on those larger bright red blotches. Not a complete save, but... 🤷♂️) With your kit, there is another way to add detail highlights that I've heard about: edge highlighting. If memory serves: mix a lighter version of the overall colour of the part you're painting (E.g. mix in white on a 1:10 or 2:10 ratio), and dry brush a little bit of that on the upper sharp edges (E.g. top of the forearms at the elbows, top of the knee pads). If successful, it not only makes the overall shapes pop more, it also adds a dust-like effect that further contrast the 'muddy' bits below. Edit: Apparently you can do edge highlighting with watercolour pencils. This may be a good way to try it out. Worst comes to worst, you can wash it off! Edited March 31 by sketchley Quote
Big s Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Papa Rat said: I hit it with a light gray/yellow ochre. It really gave some decent definition in what’s a very dark paint scheme. I need to keep practicing. Less is more. really appreciate the suggestion. ✌️ It looks a lot more lively now Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 20 minutes ago, sketchley said: Much improved! I've stumbled on the "less is more" the hard way as well on my Death Star II: https://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/topic/35120-whats-lying-on-your-workbench-mk-iv/page/433/#comment-1725046 I don't think I mentioned it at the time, but in addition to having to wipe off the heavy layer of pencil lead from the surface of the model, I also went over the larger blotches of red with a 2B or 4B pencil to break them into smaller swatches—to mixed results (pencil could only achieve darkish-red on those larger bright red blotches. Not a complete save, but... 🤷♂️) With your kit, there is another way to add detail highlights that I've heard about: edge highlighting. If memory serves: mix a lighter version of the overall colour of the part you're painting (E.g. mix in white on a 1:10 or 2:10 ratio), and dry brush a little bit of that on the upper sharp edges (E.g. top of the forearms at the elbows, top of the knee pads). If successful, it not only makes the overall shapes pop more, it also adds a dust-like effect that further contrast the 'muddy' bits below. Edit: Apparently you can do edge highlighting with watercolour pencils. This may be a good way to try it out. Worst comes to worst, you can wash it off! Thanks for sharing. What a cool build. 👍 Quote
pengbuzz Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Papa Rat said: I hit it with a light gray/yellow ochre. It really gave some decent definition in what’s a very dark paint scheme. I need to keep practicing. Less is more. really appreciate the suggestion. ✌️ Like it so far!! Maybe some heat discoloration around the gun barrel and whatever thrusters it might have? Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 14 minutes ago, pengbuzz said: Like it so far!! Maybe some heat discoloration around the gun barrel and whatever thrusters it might have? That’s a great idea. It has the laser and small exhaust pipe I could work with, but this make is thruster free. Simple bipedal slab of metal. Clunk clank bang. Hahaha Edited March 31 by Papa Rat Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) Going to slap this together tonight. Should I have any concerns regarding the old decals failing? If so is there any sort of method anyone can share that can increase my odds of them successfully working? Edited March 31 by Papa Rat Quote
Big s Posted March 31 Posted March 31 8 minutes ago, Papa Rat said: Going to slap this together tonight. Should I have any concerns regarding the old decals failing? If so is there any sort of method anyone can share that can increase my odds of them successfully working? Maybe test that spot that just states the scale on a scrap piece of plastic or a plastic spoon. They can turn brittle, but on the bright side, they never show markings in the series or movie for Zentraedi Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, Big s said: Maybe test that spot that just states the scale on a scrap piece of plastic or a plastic spoon. They can turn brittle, but on the bright side, they never show markings in the series or movie for Zentraedi Its wild to imagine how large the text on these giant ships would be. Also this kit has visible rivets which I find hilarious. Rivets the size of baseball stadiums. Lol Quote
Big s Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 minute ago, Papa Rat said: Its wild to imagine how large the text on these giant ships would be. Also this kit has visible rivets which I find hilarious. Rivets the size of baseball stadiums. Lol I honestly don’t really remember ever seeing rivets on the ships Quote
SteveTheFish Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Papa Rat said: Going to slap this together tonight. Should I have any concerns regarding the old decals failing? If so is there any sort of method anyone can share that can increase my odds of them successfully working? I started building all four Zentraedi ships about a year ago. The decals for the LST ship turned out alright, but the ones for Breetai's flagship turned brittle. I just tried a tiny decal first, one that was inconsequential. I fed Micro Liquid Decal Film into my airbrush and went over the decal sheet a few times that way. It makes the decals thicker, but it'll provide a better chance at keeping them together. I did this when I built the old Takara Crusher Joe Fighter kits a few years ago. (There's some more Shoji Kawamori love for you all!) Those decals were real old, so I had to soak them in warm water for a very long time and had to be VERY patient with them, lest they'd rip. I got a bit bored with this Zetraedi ship project and haven't gotten into it since I finished painting Kamjin's flagship. Seeing the discussions on here about these is getting me back in the mood to punish myself with this decal roulette. Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Big s said: I honestly don’t really remember ever seeing rivets on the ships Whoops. Yeah I was referring to rivets on the model kit not the anime. Quote
Papa Rat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, SteveTheFish said: I started building all four Zentraedi ships about a year ago. The decals for the LST ship turned out alright, but the ones for Breetai's flagship turned brittle. I just tried a tiny decal first, one that was inconsequential. I fed Micro Liquid Decal Film into my airbrush and went over the decal sheet a few times that way. It makes the decals thicker, but it'll provide a better chance at keeping them together. I did this when I built the old Takara Crusher Joe Fighter kits a few years ago. (There's some more Shoji Kawamori love for you all!) Those decals were real old, so I had to soak them in warm water for a very long time and had to be VERY patient with them, lest they'd rip. I got a bit bored with this Zetraedi ship project and haven't gotten into it since I finished painting Kamjin's flagship. Seeing the discussions on here about these is getting me back in the mood to punish myself with this decal roulette. Yeah I think the decals are nice but I may leave them off in the end and have it reflect the anime design even though the overall model proportions need an overhaul. Quote
SteveTheFish Posted March 31 Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, Papa Rat said: Yeah I think the decals are nice but I may leave them off in the end and have it reflect the anime design even though the overall model proportions need an overhaul. I'm bulding mine as-is, without modifications. I wish I had puttied in the dumb rivet holes in these kits before painting them, though. The nice thing about these ships is that they'd look fine without the decals since you don't see them that way in the show. Quote
Big s Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 hour ago, Papa Rat said: Whoops. Yeah I was referring to rivets on the model kit not the anime. Yeah, I got what you meant. I just thought it was an odd detail for them to add to the kit. Quote
sketchley Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Question about those rivets on the Zentradi ships: where are they located? I ask, because I'm wondering if they are supposed to be representative of the retractable beam turrets and missile launchers on the hulls of the Zentradi ships: http://sdfyodogawa.mywebcommunity.org/Stats/Statistics/ZentraadiShips/StandardBattleship.php#OFFENSIVE_SYSTEMS Quote
Papa Rat Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big s said: Yeah, I got what you meant. I just thought it was an odd detail for them to add to the kit. It is odd. Yeah it looks like a quilt or cowboy boot. Hahaha Guess I’m going to putty town. @sketchley Here is a photo Edited April 1 by Papa Rat Quote
pengbuzz Posted April 1 Posted April 1 41 minutes ago, Papa Rat said: It is odd. Yeah it looks like a quilt or cowboy boot. Hahaha Guess I’m going to putty town. @sketchley Here is a photo Or someone's weird leather purse O.o Quote
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Thom Posted April 1 Posted April 1 11 hours ago, pengbuzz said: Or someone's weird leather purse O.o Paint it brown... Quote
Papa Rat Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Thom said: Paint it brown... Hahahaha. Love it. The rivet marks are very shallow. I do think a light coat of surfacer will fill most of them in so no biggie. Edited April 1 by Papa Rat Quote
Papa Rat Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 16 minutes ago, sketchley said: What the...? Why?!? Is there any way to fill those in? They are real shallow and can be filled in. There are a ton though so it’s going to take some time. Might just brush in some MR Surfacer 500 and sand it a bit. The official anime art I have seen for the flagship has few if any panel lines so if they fill in during the process I think I’m cool with that too. Edited April 1 by Papa Rat Quote
Big s Posted April 2 Posted April 2 9 hours ago, Thom said: Paint it brown... No!! It will look like a 💩log. Although it would be funny to make it float in a pool for April fools Quote
Papa Rat Posted April 2 Posted April 2 39 minutes ago, Big s said: No!! It will look like a 💩log. Although it would be funny to make it float in a pool for April fools Hahahaha. 😂 Quote
Papa Rat Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Well I most definitely lost some brain cells tonight. I should have wore a respirator when brushing on that surfacer. Note to self. Anyway, I am hopeful that this is going to work out easier than expected. Maybe I already said too much. 🤔 Quote
derex3592 Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Still to this day I wonder how they got the look SO right for 3 of the Zent ships and SOOOO wrong on the flagship. Boggles the mind. Built all these years and years ago as a 20 something, and I STILL want Hasegawa or someone to do proper updated molds of all the ships in a decent scale. I still love these, but they are ohh so fragile, and don't stay on the included stands well. My favorite Zent flagship is the 2 foot long resin kit I got from the Australian guy who made them about 13 years ago. It's perfect. That and the little itty bitty Capt. America Scout Ship 1 piece resin model I have is also awesome. Quote
Gabe Q Posted April 2 Posted April 2 I never realized how well proportioned that tiny SDF-1 is. It just needs a bridge and the little spiky bits at the front. It looks like a fun little build. Quote
Thom Posted April 2 Posted April 2 13 hours ago, Big s said: No!! It will look like a 💩log. Although it would be funny to make it float in a pool for April fools Literally me!* LOL!! *not literally me though, I'm not Chris Pratt.... Quote
Papa Rat Posted April 2 Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Gabe Q said: I never realized how well proportioned that tiny SDF-1 is. It just needs a bridge and the little spiky bits at the front. It looks like a fun little build. It’s so tiny. Cute AF. I can’t wait to paint it. I’m going to add the bridge. Got some pla laying around Quote
pengbuzz Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Painted this up for a friend: Started as a 14 inch Disney Store Boba Fett I found at a thrift store (saved it before a little brat could reduce it to bits!); rangefinder was already gone, so built a new one that swivels. Plastic molded cape broke off, so made a new one out of actual cloth (dyed and painted ERB colors), and overall used pics of screen-used ERB costumes to fill out the details. This now graces his office as of yesterday. Quote
Urashiman Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 Oh man ... My super cheap mini compressor died today. RIP, my dear super cheap chinese device... It worked for 2 years maybe? The fun part is, it didn't die because the compressor itself broke. It broke because the single action airbrush that came with it failed. The air seal failed and the airbrush color oozed from the color container into the compressor, breaking the whole thing. I tried to take it apart, because hey, maybe I can fix it by cleaning it, but everything in there is just glued onto each other. So no luck with that. It'll do one last trip now ... to the trash can. I'll see if I can salvage anything useful from the single action air brush. If not, it will have the same fate. Good I still have my professional airbrush compressor, but this small thingy here was really convenient. Maybe I'll get a new one. Quote
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