Whats Lying on your Workbench MK IV

[peter]

4 hours ago, Thom said:

Yeah, there was a whole episode about that!

And it looks like you are persevering with those ships. A nice 'tutorial' for anyone following along.

Lol, No kidding.  The Ent C was such a mess..  It appears for one episode and 30 years later, I'm obsessing over a 1/2500 scale model of it.

Actually, @derex3592 build helps a lot.  I'm still making a lot of mistakes regardless, but learning from them...sometimes, lol!

[Chronocidal]

9 minutes ago, peter said:

Lol, No kidding.  The Ent C was such a mess..  It appears for one episode and 30 years later, I'm obsessing over a 1/2500 scale model of it.

Actually, @derex3592 build helps a lot.  I'm still making a lot of mistakes regardless, but learning from them...sometimes, lol!

Honestly.. for all of the solid chunks of color on the C, it might be better to just mask it and spray it.  That one doesn't even have any aztec paneling, and all of the raised segments would actually really help the masking job.

I think the only parts that even have any paneling not already marked off by molded details are the nacelles.

Edited March 22, 2021 by Chronocidal

[pengbuzz]

1 hour ago, peter said:

Check out @Dobber penciled work on his Aztecs....they look amazing:

 

http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/topic/35120-whats-lying-on-your-workbench-mk-iv/?do=findComment&comment=1534707

also, HDA also has the hull markings:

https://hdamodelworx.com/537600-SCALE-TMP-USS-ENTERPRISE-REFIT-STRONGBACK-DEFLECTOR-HOUSING-and-Pylon-Decals-_p_217.html

$13.95

https://hdamodelworx.com/537600-SCALE-USS-ENTERPRISE-REFIT-HULL-MARKINGS-AND-DETAIL-DECAL-SET_p_218.html

$16.95

Not to sound like a salesman for HDA, but their decals are amazing.

 

 

 

 

Much appreciated Peter; I have to keep my budget in mind (which no longer exists since money had to go for a new tomcat canopy). Part of me is actually thinking of simply trying to hand paint them on to save on more expenses.

[Dobber]

Thanks @peter for the compliment. 
 

These are my “penciled” Federation Starships

Revell JJ-prise (first time using this technique)

U.S.S. Ares 

 

Disco-Prise

U.S.S. Kelvin

[electric indigo]

@Dobber Insanely awesome - nice to see them all together.

 

Got half of the 262 camo'd today:

[Dobber]

Outstanding work Electric! Your weathering and panels are top notch!

Chris

 

[electric indigo]

Thanks! Here comes part two:

[Dobber]

Seriously man, do you have a miniaturization machine? That looks like you shrunk down a real 262. Amazing paint and weathering!

Chris

[peter]

On 3/22/2021 at 12:31 PM, Dobber said:

Thanks @peter for the compliment. 
 

These are my “penciled” Federation Starships

Revell JJ-prise (first time using this technique)

U.S.S. Ares 

 

Disco-Prise

 

U.S.S. Kelvin

Holy crap, those are effing awesome.  Thanks for reposting those pics.

[peter]

18 hours ago, Dobber said:

Seriously man, do you have a miniaturization machine? That looks like you shrunk down a real 262. Amazing paint and weathering!

Chris

Lol, so true.  It totally looks like a real plane if it weren't for the background to give it away.

[peter]

Ent C was a total $hitshow.

I remember the warning about the nacelles so I thought ok, maybe I should cut them into pieces.

Nope, this didn't work.

The upper decals were completely massacred.

Go figure that the bottoms went on with less effort and less grief.

 

[peter]

The saucer bottom went on a bit better than the saucer top as well.

I decided to use surgical gloves and loads of water instead of mucking around with q-tips and squeezing each grid square.  The gloves stayed slick so I was also able to readjust the massive decals (cut into three sections) if I needed to.

I also managed to match up the cut edges a bit better with minimal overlap.

Into the Ent D next.

[derex3592]

Don't beat yourself up about the C engine decals to bad, they suck. We all do our best on them and move on! 

[peter]

40 minutes ago, derex3592 said:

Don't beat yourself up about the C engine decals to bad, they suck. We all do our best on them and move on! 

You did warn me about the Ent C nacelle decals, lol!

[derex3592]

The D is a MUCH more pleasant experience honestly, it's actually fun.  The E isn't terrible, the nacelles are challenging, but nothing like the C. 

[peter]

27 minutes ago, derex3592 said:

The D is a MUCH more pleasant experience honestly, it's actually fun.  The E isn't terrible, the nacelles are challenging, but nothing like the C. 

Your advice on making the Ent D a smoothie really paid off.

Looking at the number of decals, I was honestly a bit intimidated.  Even though I sealed my 537 Refit in decals, those were HDA and these were AMT, so I had some serious concerns about ripping and tearing.

First decal.  The indents didn't line up with the decal, but I'm fine with that.  Look how smooth it is compared to the ribbed mess on the Ent B and C.  Love it!

The saucer bottom when on quick, there was barely any messing around and I didn't have to cut any of th decals into smaller pieces like I did with the Ent B and C.

Nacelle bottoms were fairly straight forward too.

Already on the saucer top.

[Dobber]

Dang @peter you’re doing great I have those set and the decals in storage somewhere but have always been intimidated by not only the old kits quality but all the darn decals too. I hate decaling! Great work!

Chris

[Thom]

4 hours ago, peter said:

Lol, so true.  It totally looks like a real plane if it weren't for the background to give it away.

Just CG it onto a black/white flight scene. @electric indigo Nice looking plane!

1 hour ago, peter said:

Your advice on making the Ent D a smoothie really paid off.

Looking at the number of decals, I was honestly a bit intimidated.  Even though I sealed my 537 Refit in decals, those were HDA and these were AMT, so I had some serious concerns about ripping and tearing.

First decal.  The indents didn't line up with the decal, but I'm fine with that.  Look how smooth it is compared to the ribbed mess on the Ent B and C.  Love it!

The saucer bottom when on quick, there was barely any messing around and I didn't have to cut any of th decals into smaller pieces like I did with the Ent B and C.

Nacelle bottoms were fairly straight forward too.

Already on the saucer top.

And the D follows it up with a win! Feels smooth all the way from over here!

[derex3592]

Your D is looking perfect!!! Bravo!!! 

[peter]

Thanks guys.

Holy crap the decals for the Ent D are going so well.  I dunno if it's the surgical gloves or what, but hardly any tearing or fragmenting.

Had a bit of a hard time with the hull decal, especially with the saucer already glued in place.  Had to give the ship a bath just to allow some movement to get this decal in the right place.

When I saw Model Chili slide this thing on in one piece, I was thinking there was no way I would have such luck.

But on it went.  The clear spots for the phaser arrays aren't really in the right place.  I cut the clear holds out, but it doesn't line up.  I noticed that a few times with this kit, that the decals don't always line up,  but it's fine.

Almost done.

After struggling with the Ent B and Ent C so much, I felt like I deserved an easy build.  And this was it!

[peter]

One thing to note, the other variable I changed was the water temperature.  It wasn't just warm, it was hot.  Not boiling, but the tap was maxed out for hot.

I did notice the cracking and fragmenting would start as soon as the water went from warm to cold.

I don't know if the two are correlated, but I'm sticking to hot water on any AMT decals from now on.

[derex3592]

GREAT job!!! Looks fantastic! Your main deflector came out better than mine! I also wish I had remembered to paint the 3 shuttle bays a darker grey than the base color, but I forgot!  I fully agree with the hot water trick, I keep a little bowl of water on a small warmer I got years ago that keeps my decal water pretty darn hot and I haven't had as many issues doing it that way. 

Edited March 25, 2021 by derex3592

[Dobber]

NOICE!

[peter]

Ent E

Since I painted the red, blue and black bits, I had to figure out how to cut these out.

There was a lot of contact between the Aztec and black, so I decided to just leave it.

I don't like long skinny decals, lol!

No major mishaps.

More on ng skinny decals, lol!  

This one was a bit awkward though because it twists.

More to follow.

[electric indigo]

You're making warp speed progress.

Got the decals on here, too.

 

[MechTech]

@peter GREAT work on the decals! You got some skills with not only laying down the decals, but also some tenacity to stick with it!

@electric indigo Awesome and smooth finish as always! - MT

[peter]

1 hour ago, electric indigo said:

You're making warp speed progress.

Got the decals on here, too.

 

Not only is that an amazingly ng looking build, but that's actually a really good looking plane.  

I might have to build a plane next, after all of these starships.  Will have to dig through my pile to see how many Valks I have.

This might be a long shot, but does anyone have any spare Hasegawa VF-1A heads for fighter mode I can buy?

 Back in the day, I bought more VF-1S Strike fighters, so I ended up ransacking the few 1A kits I had to complete Skull Squadron.  I think I need three.  

I even had to go through my Bandai 1/72 kits and stole a 1A head from another kit.

If not, no worries, I can always just buy a few more 1A fighters.

[slide]

7 minutes ago, peter said:

This might be a long shot, but does anyone have any spare Hasegawa VF-1A heads for fighter mode I can buy?

 Back in the day, I bought more VF-1S Strike fighters, so I ended up ransacking the few 1A kits I had to complete Skull Squadron.  I think I need three.  

I even had to go through my Bandai 1/72 kits and stole a 1A head from another kit.

If not, no worries, I can always just buy a few more 1A fighters.

I'll check my stash, I should have a few spare VF-1A heads in 1/72. you don't care about which kit they're from [ie: what colour plastic they're in]?

[pengbuzz]

I may have a couple of spare 1A heads; let me look.

[derex3592]

1 hour ago, peter said:

Not only is that an amazingly ng looking build, but that's actually a really good looking plane.  

I might have to build a plane next, after all of these starships. 

 

@peter E is looking good!  I hear you on the plane thing. I have a 1/48 Hasagawa F-22 in my pile along with the ever popular 1/72 YF-19 and YF-21 I want to do soon. After the Runabout and Cat's Eye and the good ole QRau that's been shelved for years now...hahaha. 

@electric indigo - that is a fantastic paint job!  Love how the canopy is soo shiny too!   Great job! 

[Gabe Q]

2 hours ago, peter said:

This might be a long shot, but does anyone have any spare Hasegawa VF-1A heads for fighter mode I can buy?

 Back in the day, I bought more VF-1S Strike fighters, so I ended up ransacking the few 1A kits I had to complete Skull Squadron.  I think I need three.

@peter please let me know if no one else can accommodate you. I won't charge you. I'd be happy to help. I'm not sure if I have three though. 

[peter]

6 hours ago, slide said:

I'll check my stash, I should have a few spare VF-1A heads in 1/72. you don't care about which kit they're from [ie: what colour plastic they're in]?

@pengbuzz

@slide

@Gabe Q

Hey eveyone,

You guys are great, thanks for even taking the time to look.

Color doesn't matter, I'll be painting them any, and I have lots of spare decals for the arrows on the heads

 

Peter

[peter]

5 hours ago, derex3592 said:

@peter E is looking good!  I hear you on the plane thing. I have a 1/48 Hasagawa F-22 in my pile along with the ever popular 1/72 YF-19 and YF-21 I want to do soon. After the Runabout and Cat's Eye and the good ole QRau that's been shelved for years now...hahaha. 

@electric indigo - that is a fantastic paint job!  Love how the canopy is soo shiny too!   Great job! 

Oh man, I'm almost tempted to try and build a Valk in the colors of his Me262.

Will have to practice a lot more with the airbrush though.  

[505thAirborne]

Finally found that crazy thing called "Free Time" and will finally get to finish my VF-19 Advance kit. 

Starting another VF-31A kit because hey, why not. 

As for the 1/48 VF-1J, I bought this because I wanted to customize it as a VF-1D. Sadly my 1D resin kit appears damaged, the chest plate is warped with a crack and another part is missing... crap! I'll have to wait for a chance at a DX version then send it to @Lolicon for white landing gear.  So for now, I think I will paint this as either a Low-Vis Navy or perhaps a Cavaliers Squadron.  

To everyone else, your projects look awesome!!! 

 

[peter]

42 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said:

Finally found that crazy thing called "Free Time" and will finally get to finish my VF-19 Advance kit. 

Starting another VF-31A kit because hey, why not. 

As for the 1/48 VF-1J, I bought this because I wanted to customize it as a VF-1D. Sadly my 1D resin kit appears damaged, the chest plate is warped with a crack and another part is missing... crap! I'll have to wait for a chance at a DX version then send it to @Lolicon for white landing gear.  So for now, I think I will paint this as either a Low-Vis Navy or perhaps a Cavaliers Squadron.  

To everyone else, your projects look awesome!!! 

 

Ohhhhhhh......I've always thought about buying a loose and badly yellowed 1/48 Yammie to muck around with.  Too bad about your 1D kit, but I like your idea to resurrect that Valk as a low vis 1J.  The DX 1D is right around the corner, may as well just grab that since they're making it.  Then you can turn that 1J into something that isn't already produced.

Are 1/48 Valk decals available after a repaint?  I never looked into it, but I would definitely want to get Hasegawa level amount of decal detail if I were ever to take on a project like that.

While I'm waiting for the Pledge to cure so I can flat cost the starships, I'm trying to find inspiration for my next build.

I'm thinking this.  The 1J might actually be my very first Hasegawa Valk, bought it from HLJ when these first came out and I never built it, lol!  How long ago was that??!?

This image makes me laugh because it shows the landing gear bay doors closed, and when I did my Skull Squadron with wheels up, I remember what a PITA it was to do them closed.

I have tons of spare TV missiles left over so I can arm the thing at least, but should Hikaru's 1J get a DYRL pilot on the left or should I just throw a lame Imai/Bandai Valk pilot (right) into the cockpit?  Should I even build it as Hikaru's 1J or maybe a non-canon paint scheme.....so many decisions.

Lol, I almost forgot these things didn't come with pilots.  I wonder what people do for their Elint Seekers and Super Ostriches......

Edited March 26, 2021 by peter
Edited for spelling