Thom Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 14 hours ago, peter said: Your kits look great. G1 all the way. I just started the decals on my Refit. I have to say that HDAmodelworx makes a very robust decal. I just hope that Mr. Mark Softer will help them settle. These are the thickest decals I've ever seen. They feel almost as thick as Bandai stickers. Nice, decals settling in! Quote
electric indigo Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, wm cheng said: Beautiful!!! What plane do these bombs belong to? They will go on my Fitter. An interesting bit of info I learned on the Su-17 is that the pilots trained to fly a low-level approach & pull up before releasing the bombs, thus sending them on a ballistic flight path onto the target. Quote
MechTech Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Peter - You win "Most masking tape used award!" Probably most tools and screws put into a model too. It's coming along along great! Where does the kitchen sink go now? - MT Pengbuzz - Your crew is looking good! There is a lot of activity going on adding to the realism of the whole thing. Derex - Keep up with the painting! It's looking great! I know that style takes forever. I haven't tried it yet, but the guys in my club say that way takes them several hours just doing watery-thin coats over and over. The layers REALLY add depth. Elecrtric Indigo - I figured those were the old Fitter bombs. Are those practice rounds? They look a lot like it. - MT Quote
electric indigo Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 MT, these are regular 100 kg fragmentation bombs. I don't know how the training rounds are marked. Quote
MechTech Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Nope, not training rounds at 100 kg. They just look like it I guess. They're nice and cleanly built though! - MT Quote
peter Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 10 hours ago, electric indigo said: @Dobber What derex says. With Tamyia acrylics, the cleanup is easy & basically odorless. - Just another regular day at the bomb factory: Each rack is 35 pieces (sans bombs) and took me an evening to clean up and put together. Now back to the plane... Wow, that is some serious dedication to detail. Quote
peter Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, MechTech said: Peter - You win "Most masking tape used award!" Probably most tools and screws put into a model too. It's coming along along great! Where does the kitchen sink go now? - MT Pengbuzz - Your crew is looking good! There is a lot of activity going on adding to the realism of the whole thing. Derex - Keep up with the painting! It's looking great! I know that style takes forever. I haven't tried it yet, but the guys in my club say that way takes them several hours just doing watery-thin coats over and over. The layers REALLY add depth. Elecrtric Indigo - I figured those were the old Fitter bombs. Are those practice rounds? They look a lot like it. - MT Lol, I was being so stingy with my Tamiya masking tape but I went to town when I found a roll of the green stuff. Still sort of using the Bandai as a paint/decal guide. I found it's not exactly screen accurate either but it's not bad, and it's a lot easier to look at than scrolling through my phone or computer for reference pics. Doesn't look bad from a distance (please don't zoom in). The instructions from HDA actually had numerous errors in it, if you guys get the kit, do not follow the instructions, lol! I had some issues with the bottom decal, and couldn't figure out which line to follow when setting it. I may have made the wrong choice, lol! Still more to go. In the future, I don't think I'll just nuts, bolts and other hardware drowned in glue. That being said, I don't think I'll build another 1/537, lol! More to follow. Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Ok, for being such a disaster of a kit, that's a damn fine job. Quote
joscasle Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Chronocidal said: Ok, for being such a disaster of a kit, that's a damn fine job. Agree!!!!! Quote
wm cheng Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 @peter those decals are really pulling it together man! You might want to lighten up that grey before you put the "stongback" decals on it, it might be too dark especially considering how good it all looks aready! Quote
wm cheng Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Ok here we go again!!! Just got the new GWH 1/72 F-14A with one my favourite schemes the VF-1 Wolfpack! Its a pretty amazingly detailed kit, but its not for beginners, there are lots of missing instruction steps and things don't exactly lock together, so you have to constantly go a few steps ahead and dry fit before you glue everything down. Once everything is aligned it should fit well, the key is getting everything aligned and massaged before gluing which is often 4-5 steps ahead of where you are. Well I wanted to make it easier on myself by not going nuts on the cockpit, the kit supplied seats are really well done, except for the seat cushions and no belts so I thought I'd use two pilots from my Hasegawa ground crew set (not as good as resin ones, I have those on order for my other Tomcats eventually) and decide to do this with the canopy closed. I just used kit instrument decals, but there were such good raised details in the cockpit, luckily I managed to get the decals snuggle down to the switches really well, they even included molding and decals for all the fuses including the sidewalls! My big ass quarter makes a comeback! Just amazing in styrene, but as you can see, once its in the fuselage with the pilots in, very little can be seen. I don't think there's enough detail in this tub to support an open canopy (gotta save my resin cockpits, seats and photoetched for the Hasegawas or FineMolds) Amazing that they included so much detail, but missed out on the overhead ejection seat handles. Had to make that out of wire - I hate scratchbuilding in 1/72 scale, my eyes are not what they used to be. Oops forgot the shoulder belt harness I made of tape and haven't attached those from the pilot to the seat yet. This should keep me busy while I wait to finish up my F-18 from before. Quote
peter Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, wm cheng said: @peter those decals are really pulling it together man! You might want to lighten up that grey before you put the "stongback" decals on it, it might be too dark especially considering how good it all looks aready! Haha, yeah, that's been actually a bit concerning for me as well....Light Gray isn't very light, especially against the white, but under other lighting conditions, it can appear quite light. Same gray: I'll test some scrap decals over it first, see how it looks. If it's bad, I'll do what I can to fix it. Quote
peter Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, wm cheng said: Ok here we go again!!! Just got the new GWH 1/72 F-14A with one my favourite schemes the VF-1 Wolfpack! Its a pretty amazingly detailed kit, but its not for beginners, there are lots of missing instruction steps and things don't exactly lock together, so you have to constantly go a few steps ahead and dry fit before you glue everything down. Once everything is aligned it should fit well, the key is getting everything aligned and massaged before gluing which is often 4-5 steps ahead of where you are. Well I wanted to make it easier on myself by not going nuts on the cockpit, the kit supplied seats are really well done, except for the seat cushions and no belts so I thought I'd use two pilots from my Hasegawa ground crew set (not as good as resin ones, I have those on order for my other Tomcats eventually) and decide to do this with the canopy closed. I just used kit instrument decals, but there were such good raised details in the cockpit, luckily I managed to get the decals snuggle down to the switches really well, they even included molding and decals for all the fuses including the sidewalls! My big ass quarter makes a comeback! Just amazing in styrene, but as you can see, once its in the fuselage with the pilots in, very little can be seen. I don't think there's enough detail in this tub to support an open canopy (gotta save my resin cockpits, seats and photoetched for the Hasegawas or FineMolds) Amazing that they included so much detail, but missed out on the overhead ejection seat handles. Had to make that out of wire - I hate scratchbuilding in 1/72 scale, my eyes are not what they used to be. Oops forgot the shoulder belt harness I made of tape and haven't attached those from the pilot to the seat yet. This should keep me busy while I wait to finish up my F-18 from before. Wow! Quote
wm cheng Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Oh @peter make sure you are very careful when masking to lighten the grey on the strongbacks as you have some decals on the secondary hull now and don't want that to be pulled up. I'd even suggest using posted it notes or use the Tamiya masking tape but put it on your jeans first to take the initial tackiness off. I wouldn't even do the strongback details in a different colour, I'd go with the base white and let the decals darken the colour - which version are you doing (silvery grey for TMP, blue for WoK or green for the subsequent movies?) Quote
derex3592 Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 wm cheng -- "I'm not gonna go to crazy on the cockpit on this one"... also wm cheng -- " I made my own ejection seat handles in 1:72 scale and they look perfect"... LOOOL! Looks great man! @peter Decals are looking great man! Quote
Thom Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 11 hours ago, peter said: Lol, I was being so stingy with my Tamiya masking tape but I went to town when I found a roll of the green stuff. More to follow. Sure, there are a few spots here and there you can groan about, (You should see some joins on my 1/72 Dragon P-61...) but overall she is looking really good! Considering what you started with and the hiccups along the way, I'd be proud to put it on my shelf! I will add to what @wm cheng said, and maybe hit it with a clear coat before remasking, if you do redo the gray. Just give it another layer to grab onto above the existing decals. 8 hours ago, wm cheng said: Ok here we go again!!! Just got the new GWH 1/72 F-14A with one my favourite schemes the VF-1 Wolfpack! Its a pretty amazingly detailed kit, but its not for beginners, there are lots of missing instruction steps and things don't exactly lock together, so you have to constantly go a few steps ahead and dry fit before you glue everything down. Once everything is aligned it should fit well, the key is getting everything aligned and massaged before gluing which is often 4-5 steps ahead of where you are. Well I wanted to make it easier on myself by not going nuts on the cockpit, the kit supplied seats are really well done, except for the seat cushions and no belts so I thought I'd use two pilots from my Hasegawa ground crew set (not as good as resin ones, I have those on order for my other Tomcats eventually) and decide to do this with the canopy closed. I just used kit instrument decals, but there were such good raised details in the cockpit, luckily I managed to get the decals snuggle down to the switches really well, they even included molding and decals for all the fuses including the sidewalls! My big ass quarter makes a comeback! Just amazing in styrene, but as you can see, once its in the fuselage with the pilots in, very little can be seen. I don't think there's enough detail in this tub to support an open canopy (gotta save my resin cockpits, seats and photoetched for the Hasegawas or FineMolds) Amazing that they included so much detail, but missed out on the overhead ejection seat handles. Had to make that out of wire - I hate scratchbuilding in 1/72 scale, my eyes are not what they used to be. Oops forgot the shoulder belt harness I made of tape and haven't attached those from the pilot to the seat yet. This should keep me busy while I wait to finish up my F-18 from before. That is a fantastic looking 'pit, and nice on the pull handles! Quote
Dobber Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Great job Peter! She’s really coming together. I’ll echo the sentiment to clear coat to protect the decals and then maybe lighten those strong backs a little. Otherwise outstanding work. @wm cheng great tub you got there. Can’t wait to see how this turns out. VF-1 is my favorite if you couldn’t tell from my avatar. Chris Quote
MechTech Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Peter - Your U.S.S. Hardware Store is looking great! The decals do make it stand out. Keep trekking along with all your efforts, it will be worth it when you're done. WM Cheng - That's some seriously awesome detail - including the handles! Unless you're going to an IPMS show, I would build it canopy open. That's a lot of work to hide under glazing. - MT Quote
wm cheng Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Thanks @MechTech I don't think its good enough to show with the canopy open, the seats are kit seats (you really need resin seats & tub for canopy open) and the pilots are just the ones that Hasegawa comes with on their ground crew set (I think they are actually Air Force not Navy pilots too - although I don't know how different their suits were) - I'd prefer resin sculpted pilots for open canopies. The worst part those is the RIO's console coaming is too narrow for an open cockpit. I've never been to an IPMS show (I don't know if they have those in Canada) but I would probably nerdgasm out at one of these :P Quote
peter Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 5 hours ago, derex3592 said: wm cheng -- "I'm not gonna go to crazy on the cockpit on this one"... also wm cheng -- " I made my own ejection seat handles in 1:72 scale and they look perfect"... LOOOL! Looks great man! @peter Decals are looking great man! Lol!!! Quote
peter Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 13 hours ago, wm cheng said: Oh @peter make sure you are very careful when masking to lighten the grey on the strongbacks as you have some decals on the secondary hull now and don't want that to be pulled up. I'd even suggest using posted it notes or use the Tamiya masking tape but put it on your jeans first to take the initial tackiness off. I wouldn't even do the strongback details in a different colour, I'd go with the base white and let the decals darken the colour - which version are you doing (silvery grey for TMP, blue for WoK or green for the subsequent movies?) I was thinking about redoing the gray bits, but then I saw this.....scan forward to 5 minutes to watch the nightmare. Quote
electric indigo Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 @wm cheng Amazing work on the cockpit; too bad most of it will be invisible, especially with the pilots in place. Are those cowlings sculpted on the kit's parts? Oh and on the Hase pilot, you can use a small drill to open the space under the oxygen mask, it really makes a difference IMO. You can see it here on my Sinoraptor. Quote
wm cheng Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 @electric indigoDamn you!!! It didn't even occur to me, now I can't see it without that mod. Argh, all painted too, lets hope I don't make a mess of it. I just want to get to the painting, weathering and decals - all this is stuff I hate to do to get me to that stage of modeling which I love. Quote
peter Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 @wm chengcheng sempai, gomen ne, I chickened out and didn't follow your advice to redo the gray. I'm calling it my semi-Bandai version, lol! I can live with it. I think if I went ahead and redid the gray, but botched the job, I would lose my mind. Quote
peter Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 I finally found out where SH-08 and SH-09 go.....friggin hell, was one of the first secondary hull decals I cut and the instructions made absolutely no sense. I thought it was supposed to go on the side of the secondary hull. The instructions had SH-02 and SH-03 switched with these. Quote
peter Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Anyway, almost there. Just a comparison to the last Ent-A that I built. Pretty sure the one on the right was my second one (clearly I didn't learn my lesson). Putting up my old one so my new one doesn't look that bad, hahahahah! Close up of where these things tend to fail. Comparison of the necks. I couldn't find the nacelles that went with this ship. These are from my first build and as you can see, they got a pretty bad Search for Spock treatment. I think I only used two colors on the old ones. More to follow. Quote
Thom Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) Your new build looks sooo good! So what if the gray is the wrong shade?! Most people are not going to hold your model up beside the TV to compare it to a still shot from one of the movies. They'll do what the rest of us are doing, oohing and aahing! Edited July 29, 2020 by Thom Quote
Dobber Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 I think she looks great Peter! Congrats a truly challenging build. Hump the saucer goes on ok...that’s the last challenge! Chris Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Ok, you're honestly tempting me to track down a set of those decals to apply to my old clunker. That honestly looks amazing for such a lousy kit. Quote
wm cheng Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Hey @peter if it makes you feel any better, I chickened out on drilling out the space underneath my pilots masks. I'm too far along, with the pilots glued into the seats and in the fuselage, I'm worried I'll make a mess of it and have to repaint so much of the pilot too. Oh well. Your decals are making that POS Enterprise model kit look way better than it should - you should be proud! Quote
CrossAir Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, wm cheng said: Your decals are making that POS Enterprise model kit look way better than it should - you should be proud! +1 @peter When I followed your first steps of bringing this kit together I never thought it could end this good! It's almost a pity that the finish covers up all the hardship you've gone through Quote
peter Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, wm cheng said: Hey @peter if it makes you feel any better, I chickened out on drilling out the space underneath my pilots masks. I'm too far along, with the pilots glued into the seats and in the fuselage, I'm worried I'll make a mess of it and have to repaint so much of the pilot too. Oh well. Your decals are making that POS Enterprise model kit look way better than it should - you should be proud! Lol, thanks i really do hate this thing though. It really is a POS. Struggling with the saucer right now, and it may still end up self destructing. It's like the neck was never meant to mate to the saucer. I doubt there is very much actual contact between the two. FFS, I should have figured this out before paint and decal. Its amateur hour again......time to sleep. Let's see if it's a better day tomorrow, lol! Edited July 29, 2020 by peter Edited to add shameful images. Quote
peter Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Donut didn't hold. The neck almost took a section of Aztec with it when it came apart. When examining the contact points, it looking like the peg and the hole, and maybe a tiny bit of the tip of the neck with the saucer. I need coffee to think this through. Quote
derex3592 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Regular model cement just ain't gonna cut it man, I know, I have been there plenty of times! CA Glue, 5 min epoxy or I use to have this liquid stuff called Ambroid Pro-Weld, it was amazing, basically it melted the plastic together. I don't think it's made any longer though. Quote
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