derex3592 Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 7 hours ago, pengbuzz said: Soon as I can, I'll build and paint up a new one for it. For right now, money's tight. I hear ya Pengbuzz! I talked the wife into the 1/1000 Defiant, it's pretty cheap on Amamzon. It'll be here Monday. I'm gonna use that as a test bed to see how I like the quality of the Round Two stuff. Might ask for the set of 7 E's for my Bday in August. I told her I need simple inside projects to keep my out of her hair this summer when it's 105 degrees outside! Quote
pengbuzz Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, derex3592 said: I hear ya Pengbuzz! I talked the wife into the 1/1000 Defiant, it's pretty cheap on Amamzon. It'll be here Monday. I'm gonna use that as a test bed to see how I like the quality of the Round Two stuff. Might ask for the set of 7 E's for my Bday in August. I told her I need simple inside projects to keep my out of her hair this summer when it's 105 degrees outside! I built the older AMT 1/2500's when the three-set came out, and I built the newer 2 stuff; let me tell you, the quality is night and day! The R2 tiny refit was worlds better than AMT's attempt.:better detailing, not so chunky, no protruding "panel lines" and the decals were pretty good. My only complaint was getting an aztec stuck on my thumb! lol All that said: I've also built the 1/1000 scale ones and they're not bad either. I don't think Defiant will disappoint you, but I haven't built that one yet. Quote
Chronocidal Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 I thought the newer 1/1000 kits were Polar Lights molds, rather than AMT/Round 2? I've got the TV, Refit, Reliant, and Klingon D7 from them, and while the TV designs are light on detail, they go together well. Which reminds me, I need to see if they put out a Motion Picture D7 version. Quote
derex3592 Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 Sorry, to much interneting of late....you are correct..Polar Lights is the Defiant kit I bought. Part of me wants to try a very simple lighting job on it. Quote
pengbuzz Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chronocidal said: I thought the newer 1/1000 kits were Polar Lights molds, rather than AMT/Round 2? I've got the TV, Refit, Reliant, and Klingon D7 from them, and while the TV designs are light on detail, they go together well. Which reminds me, I need to see if they put out a Motion Picture D7 version. They did, but in 1/2500 scale and the recent 1/350 scale (HUGE mutha!). They also re-released the AMT D7 movie version ("K'Tinga" class) in 1/537: https://round2corp.com/product/cadet-series-motion-picture-era-set/ https://round2corp.com/product/star-trek-klingon-ktinga-2/ https://round2corp.com/product/star-trek-klingon-ktinga-class-battle-cruiser-i-k-s-amar/ Edited June 29, 2019 by pengbuzz Quote
derex3592 Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 Are Round 2 and Polar Lights sister companies or something? Their boxes look awfully similar....So do the decal sheets. IF I had nothing but time and space, I would totally build the 1:350 Enterprise and the 1:350 Klingon ship. HUGE and awesome! Quote
arbit Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, derex3592 said: Part of me wants to try a very simple lighting job on it. You know my feelings on that Quote
pengbuzz Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, derex3592 said: Are Round 2 and Polar Lights sister companies or something? Their boxes look awfully similar....So do the decal sheets. IF I had nothing but time and space, I would totally build the 1:350 Enterprise and the 1:350 Klingon ship. HUGE and awesome! Polar lights, Jonny Lightning, MPC and Lindberg are now brand names of Round 2. Quote
Thom Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) I just recently finished a build of the /1000 Defiant. It is a great little kit! The only problem I had was planning the build/paint sequence. When I build another, I'll paint the upper hull where the eight clear round parts go, then mask them before continuing with putting the hull together and sanding the seems. It turned into a bee-otch for me when I needed to mask the eight clear circles after all assembly was done, and just couldn't get it right. Everything else though was Beauty! A test of the new phaser emitters on the Saber. Edited June 30, 2019 by Thom Quote
derex3592 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 It's funny you mentioned that @Thom...I was already worried about those 8 clear round parts! Hahahaaha! Quote
MechTech Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 It's cool to see that Round 2 bought all those brands. They have redone a lot of the tooling such as on the Space 1999 Eagle. They even sell aluminum engine nozzles for them too. After three weeks engineering the radar masts, this is as far as I've gotten. The good news is that the whole thing is VERY quiet and the shafts spin true. I took an old Gizmoszone motor (too bad they are out of business now) and made an aluminum dog bone joint for it. There is an old grommet over them to keep them aligned and also quiet the vibration noise. The plastic motor mount also has a rubber ring in it to reduce vibration noise. The radar shafts all spin about the right speed at 1.5v. Also keeps it quiet from the motor not revving so high. The tallest mast has an IFF antenna around it, that's what the funny shaped hexagons are for. Still working on the radars. - MT Quote
Thom Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, derex3592 said: It's funny you mentioned that @Thom...I was already worried about those 8 clear round parts! Hahahaaha! I ended up fudging mine, sadly. I considered buying the mask set, but it, sadly, doesn't have any provisions for them. Next time, the first thing I'll do is paint the area surrounding those clear parts as though it's the finishing paint, insert the painted clear parts, and mask it off - then go to closing up the hull as the instructions dictate. Good luck with yours! Also, nice work with that Queadluun-Rau. That's one I really wish was in 1/72! Mechtech, that mast looks fantastic! Edited July 1, 2019 by Thom Quote
electric indigo Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 11 hours ago, MechTech said: It's cool to see that Round 2 bought all those brands. They have redone a lot of the tooling such as on the Space 1999 Eagle. Stay away from the retooled (MCP) Eagle - there's a completely new Round 2 kit coming in true 1/72 scale. Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Just got a new 3D printer delivered, been putting it through some tests. I opted for a larger enclosed type, and one that only translates the bed up and down, rather than forward to back, after the alignment issues I had with my smaller first one, where the bed travel caused taller prints to wobble. I did one calibration print, and then turned to my old WCIII Excalibur model to test the accuracy limits. I sent this same model to Shapeways sans panel lines some time ago, so I should probably update the version there. So far, results are promising, though I think I need to switch to ABS from PLA for better sanding/polishing properties, and I need to experiment with raft/support density, since the back end of this model got a little mangled where the supports connected. All printed in one really long print of about 31 hours for a 7-inch display model. The panel lines turned out really well, so I may just spray it with primer to see how the material looks dulled down. Once I get a spool of gray ABS, I'm going to print each of the individual body sections separately so I can clean them up into a proper kit. Edited July 2, 2019 by Chronocidal Quote
pengbuzz Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:02 AM, electric indigo said: Stay away from the retooled (MCP) Eagle - there's a completely new Round 2 kit coming in true 1/72 scale. Speaking of Eagles; a while back, I kitbashed together an Eagle concept of my own: Would you believe it started life as a spare Sovereign-class warp nacelle I had lying around? lol Quote
MechTech Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 That looks like a clean print Chronocidal! Not too many bias marks either. That's cool Pengbuzz! I like the styling. - MT Quote
derex3592 Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Benjamin Sisko's strong PIMP hand has come in. Fun weekend or two build soon! Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Oooh, nice! How long is that one? I know it's a pretty small ship deck-wise, but how does it compare with the TV/Refit Enterprise? Quote
Thom Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 You'll like it. The Defiant is a good model to build. Quote
derex3592 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Chronocidal said: Oooh, nice! How long is that one? I know it's a pretty small ship deck-wise, but how does it compare with the TV/Refit Enterprise? I don't actually have any Star Trek models to compare it to (well, not anymore), so this is my 1st kit of Trek since the 90's/Early 2000's. I built two 1/400 Enterprise D's in high school and the 1/1400 E along with the DS-9 model, but gave them away unfortunately..... Already snipped all parts off the sprue and gonna wash them today. Primer will go down tomorrow AM as I'm off for the 4th. More pics soon! Quote
derex3592 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Primer's down. Hopefully paint this weekend! Also -- side question -- I have a spray can of Mr.Surfacer 1000 that I bought and never used, but thinking maybe it can help on Mrs. Q-Rau somehow - Can anyone around here explain to me how to use it? I can't seem to find much on YouTube in English on it. Quote
arbit Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 5 hours ago, derex3592 said: Also -- side question -- I have a spray can of Mr.Surfacer 1000 that I bought and never used, but thinking maybe it can help on Mrs. Q-Rau somehow - Can anyone around here explain to me how to use it? I can't seem to find much on YouTube in English on it. I have not used it, but knowing Mr. Surfacer primers, I am sure it will spray down nice and fine. Usually I warm up my primer spray cans in a pot of off-the-boil water for 15 seconds shake and repeat three times. For your Q-Rau I suggest doing one limb at a time if possible. Quote
derex3592 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Well.....here in TX in the summer, no need to warm up the primer sitting in the garage...LOL. Quote
Rock Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) On 7/5/2019 at 9:31 AM, derex3592 said: Also -- side question -- I have a spray can of Mr.Surfacer 1000 that I bought and never used, but thinking maybe it can help on Mrs. Q-Rau somehow - Can anyone around here explain to me how to use it? I can't seem to find much on YouTube in English on it. Here is a good article on the differences between the MR. Surfacer lines. In short the # represents the build and grit of the product with 500 being more fore filling and 1200 closer to a slick paint coat. http://www.swannysmodels.com/Surfacer.html Edited July 6, 2019 by Rock Quote
MechTech Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 FINALLY got the radars done. The is the third and final version of the main one, second of the secondary. The last main one one my wife thought looked like a dog tag and I thought it looked too old, not angled enough as is the modern trend with some (not all) radars. Also cleaned up the fit between the top of the deck house and the lower half of the ship. The whole section on top comes off to get access to stuff below. I placed a strip of styrene over the seam and will clean it up when the cement dries. I'll get a video up when I get further along showing some of the gimmicks. - MT Quote
Thom Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MechTech said: FINALLY got the radars done. The is the third and final version of the main one, second of the secondary. The last main one one my wife thought looked like a dog tag and I thought it looked too old, not angled enough as is the modern trend with some (not all) radars. Also cleaned up the fit between the top of the deck house and the lower half of the ship. The whole section on top comes off to get access to stuff below. I placed a strip of styrene over the seam and will clean it up when the cement dries. I'll get a video up when I get further along showing some of the gimmicks. - MT Real sleek looking ship. And that radar array looks fantastic. Quote
Thom Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 A little update on my USS Saber, the first coat of light gray has been applied. Quote
vincemoto7 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 7:31 AM, derex3592 said: Primer's down. Hopefully paint this weekend! Also -- side question -- I have a spray can of Mr.Surfacer 1000 that I bought and never used, but thinking maybe it can help on Mrs. Q-Rau somehow - Can anyone around here explain to me how to use it? I can't seem to find much on YouTube in English on it. I use the Mr. Surfacer 1200 in a spray can, and just spray it like I would any other kind of primer. I'd use it all the time if it wasn't so expensive . Quote
Gabe Q Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 Can anyone recommend a simple (idiot proof) way for me to recast a missing piece? The gerwalk intake in the picture is missing. I looked all over the place and it is gone! I'd like to replace it. Any help, guys? Quote
MechTech Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 Thanks Thom! Your Saber is looking smooth now. Gabe, sorry, its hard to tell, but is that the kit or the toy? If its the kit, you can just order the sprue. If its the part I think it is, maybe even a textured sheet of styrene. - MT Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) I actually don't think a piece that simple is worth the effort of a recast, whether it's a kit or toy. I believe the missing piece is just a flat plate with some vent vanes on it, correct? I would just make one out of sheet styrene, by cutting a base panel to cover the opening, and then either scribing vent lines into it, or gluing smaller strips of sheet styrene to it. If you want to get creative with it, you could also make vanes by gluing together a stack of alternating-width strips of plastic, and then cut the stack to fit into the space on the backpack, but the space there really isn't deep enough to fit much more than a textured panel. In other news, I dug out some of the other Polar Lights Trek kits, and snapped them together as a test. TOS Enterprise is probably the most sturdy of any of them. The refit went together decently as well, but sadly the Reliant kit has some serious structural issues. The parts break-down for the nacelles and roll-bar pretty much guarantee it's going to need a lot of glue, sanding, and putty, because despite being a "snap" kit, there is pretty much nothing at all holding the nacelle pylons in place, and they're even pretty warped (I'm painfully aware of the ironic pun). Edited July 9, 2019 by Chronocidal Quote
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