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10 minutes ago, Big s said:

I get the feeling someone got their first airbrush and decided to try out different paints and techniques and these were the test items 

That's what I would say if I saw post too. But Everything this guy had was pretty colorful to say the least..lol a didn't take a lot due to it..some I don't think I can fix especially being 30 40 year old kits.. enamel and glue

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Looks like someone's form of 'free-style' modelling. Like they were just having fun with it. Or, daddy had the airbrush and kiddo was directing his/her 'vision.'

Are any of the kits redouble? A little soak in break cleaner or a night in the freezer to loosen up the joins?

If so, listen to @pengbuzz he is a master reclaimer!

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1 hour ago, pengbuzz said:

  

Let me know if you want to get rid of any of them, or if you need advice on how to save them. This kind of thing is my specialty.

Sdf1😆

I don't want save it.

Well I started reclaiming today.

Boy do I have a lot more to do.

I'll definitely let you know what keep or not pengbuzz.

I picked the stuff I thought I could salvage the best. And if it hit my fancy. But room decides everything lol. 

I have as much reassembly as paint and fixing to do .  Alot broke on transport..alot was on the verge at his house..😆

At least I'll know when I'm done with them they will be fairly sturdy. He went so light on glue some part I don't know if he used any at all. DS9 collapsed in my hands last night. Million pieces everywhere...at least I got it back together with only 1 missing pieces that I could prob just cut out of some plastic. I cried a little when it hit the floor.

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I think I've become a Regult Factory Satellite 😁:

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First up, painting the rocket thrusters on all 3 kits—of course the typhoon has decided to make a u-turn, and is sending humid rainy weather my way again 😫:

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Oh, update on the Replenishing Agent—I had a mini disaster yesterday: the eye dropper I was using to transfer the agent into the paint jars disolved on me just as I was getting started!  In its defence, it was old, used, and sun damaged (or worse!!!  It's shaped like the blue ones in the following picture, but was white).  Thankfully I had a spare (that is surviving.  So.  Far.)  It was really bizarre when the plunger part just separated into a bunch of plastic rings on me! 🤣

So yeah, VERY, VERY potent stuff.

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So, while waiting for the weather to clear yesterday, I started fixing my pair of Bandai fully transformable VF-1.  First step was the ol' trick of using clear nail polish to rebuild worn surfaces.  On these kits, it's the nubs where the 'buttflap' attaches to the back pack—both were falling off at the merest vibration! 😫

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The VF-1S (Fokker) is basically done and stands on his own two feet (he may have lost a thumb at one point—not that anyone notices or anything).

Hikaru's VF-1A on the other hand... :crazy:

I want to keep it in GERWALK (the joint where the backpack connects with the fuselage broke, so it can't transform completely into Fighter, and that support stand connector piece is a permanent part of the kit now).  At this point, I'm mulling over whether or not I should only use the nail polish trick to reinforce the leg connection pins, or basically disassemble the torso of the model and glue it permanently in GERWALK when I put it back together.

I think I'll try the nail polish trick on the back FAST Pack connector pins, as keeping them removable will make dusting (etc.) a lot easier!

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New "easy and quick" project... LOL.. 2018 Academy 1/72 A-10. Well..... Apparently 2018 Academy ain't modern Academy... Wow... What an absolutely horrible fitting kit just on basic build up.. The cockpit tub and main bottom wheel well/fuselage part were just terrible. I tried every trick I know and this was the best I got. yesterday after like an hour of trying. Sooo.. Yeh... Lots of sanding and putty and seam work in my future unfortunately.. Uhhggg... So much for quick and easy... 🤔 🙄 😂 

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1 hour ago, Thom said:

Never heard that trick before. Is it like using CA?

The desired goal is to add a thin layer onto the nubs that get worn down when handling (E.g. posing) your kits.  Sometimes it takes multiple layers of nail polish to get it back to a snug enough fit that'll keep its pose.  I'm not sure if CA would have the same effect—my impression is that a layer of dried CA glue is very thin.

The trick works best when you can pull the parts apart so the nail polish doesn't get everywhere and lock the joint.  Joints on such things as the old school Destroids (like the ones in my post above) can't be pulled apart, so the trick doesn't really work on them.  Which sucks, as it's generally the styrene on styrene that wears the quickest (like in those Destroids), and hardly happens with styrene on polycap (E.g. Gunpla joints)—which are super simple to take apart!

 

Here's an example of the trick being used to make a custom adapter for a Gunpla stand using a bit of leftover sprue that wasn't quite large enough for the hole in the bottom of the 1/144 VF-11:

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18 hours ago, nonner242 said:

Well you guys are pro here..WTF is this mess. Got a box of stuff with a really good deal on old airbrush and compressorless  air tank and found this in the parts pile😂

It's a hideous mess of I don't know what your thinking..no I will not try and fix it. Pengbuzz!

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Send it to me; I'll need just a week to set it right.

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6 hours ago, sketchley said:

The desired goal is to add a thin layer onto the nubs that get worn down when handling (E.g. posing) your kits.  Sometimes it takes multiple layers of nail polish to get it back to a snug enough fit that'll keep its pose.  I'm not sure if CA would have the same effect—my impression is that a layer of dried CA glue is very thin.

The trick works best when you can pull the parts apart so the nail polish doesn't get everywhere and lock the joint.  Joints on such things as the old school Destroids (like the ones in my post above) can't be pulled apart, so the trick doesn't really work on them.  Which sucks, as it's generally the styrene on styrene that wears the quickest (like in those Destroids), and hardly happens with styrene on polycap (E.g. Gunpla joints)—which are super simple to take apart!

 

Here's an example of the trick being used to make a custom adapter for a Gunpla stand using a bit of leftover sprue that wasn't quite large enough for the hole in the bottom of the 1/144 VF-11:

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Most nail polishes are made with similar stuff that gets put into hobby glues and thinners and that’s pretty much why it bonds to styrene.  Many companies use stuff like Lacquers and some use acrylic or enamel bases. Many fake nails are actually styrene plastic.

It’s weird how much hobby stuff ends up similar or the same stuff as women’s beauty supplies. Often times women discover great products long before us guys do. Like with the whole glass file thing or spongey sanding sticks or miniature airbrush sets or make up compacts with application brushes and sponges. I get the feeling that a lot of dudes run out of their supplies and then scrounge what their ladies have in stock and then it gets marked up and sold in hobby shops.

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8 hours ago, nonner242 said:

Not this hunk of whatever it is ..came in the lot part of random parts and broken stuff.

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There are some many choices in that that I do not understand...

However, it does look like an ideal candidate for an Ataria Island crash diorama!

 

 

 

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On 9/1/2024 at 5:21 PM, Big s said:

Most nail polishes are made with similar stuff that gets put into hobby glues and thinners and that’s pretty much why it bonds to styrene.  Many companies use stuff like Lacquers and some use acrylic or enamel bases. Many fake nails are actually styrene plastic.

It’s weird how much hobby stuff ends up similar or the same stuff as women’s beauty supplies. Often times women discover great products long before us guys do. Like with the whole glass file thing or spongey sanding sticks or miniature airbrush sets or make up compacts with application brushes and sponges. I get the feeling that a lot of dudes run out of their supplies and then scrounge what their ladies have in stock and then it gets marked up and sold in hobby shops.

I've been using women's products for more years than I like to admit...and hitting up craft and dollar store more than old ppl.😆

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Hah.. not even wrong.  Some of the best tools I have were just bundles of manicure supplies I found cheaply on Amazon.  Emery boards, buffers, and I'm starting to love sanding sponges.  You do have to be careful not to deform things since they're soft, but boy do they make paint stripping and polishing a breeze.

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Haven‘t been posting in a while.

I started building a „re-issue“ of a modellkit from the 1970s, originating from communist Germany!

When I was a little annoyance (read hyperactive kid) I build this thing over and over again. It is run by a jolly ol’ rubberband engine. Anyway, pictures.

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1 hour ago, Chronocidal said:

Hah.. not even wrong.  Some of the best tools I have were just bundles of manicure supplies I found cheaply on Amazon.  Emery boards, buffers, and I'm starting to love sanding sponges.  You do have to be careful not to deform things since they're soft, but boy do they make paint stripping and polishing a breeze.

I use the sponges for rounded surfaces and the glass files for flat. Both are from the ladies nail department 

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My friend in America 3D printed this small figure of Minmay. She wears a dress like this in the manga, Macross: The First. Today after work I primed her with Gaia Notes Surfacer Evo Flesh. There are four parts: head, torso, waist down, and a stand. I really wish her waist/hips was a separate piece from her dress because I won't be able to paint up to the top. It's not like anyone can see up there, but since I'm OCD I can't stop thinking of this. She's pretty much nopan too. He printed her in dark blue resin, and this surfacer did a great job in covering that up. Next I'll paint her dress red. Dunno how well I can try painting her eyes at this small scale, though.

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@Urashiman ooh!!! an actual flying model too!  Very cool vintage kit.

@electric indigo wow, always sooooo smooth and too scale!

Man!  I'm so rusty at this, its been such a long while since I've built a Hasegawa Valkyrie and somehow I've forgotten a lot of "out-of-step" order of construction that would have made my painting a lot easier later on.  I'm just stuck in masking hell, without much progress to report on (I have a week left before I start work again and after I dropped off my daughter off at Uni).  I forget how much masking there is in VT-1 that the plain white VF-1s don't have 😛

Sorry so dusty!  This is just so I can finally showcase @arbit amazing figure sculpts as I've always wanted Minmay with her helmet off for this scene.IMG_2610.JPG.038cd31af66f0d08f07a60474b0bb98c.JPG

Added a little fencing to block from seeing the internals.

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I should have been a present wrapper!  I had to glue the forward fuselage to the body to work out the seam from the forward half and the rear main section as it wasn't very clean and needed some putty and sanding - unfortunately this meant I had to spray the orange sections underneath in a very tight spot between the intakes.  Ideally you want to mask and spray the forward fuselage by itself before assembling it to the rear, but that would leave an ugly gap so its just lots of masking now.

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Then masking all the Alclad metals (and I forgot to glue the antenna fins while they were bare plastic to bare plastic which is a stronger bond than after its been painted - argh!)IMG_7487.JPG.7ff4b2bcc2dd6a6ff848b166b7843e18.JPGIMG_7488.JPG.d3a008cc213ca8859c66346cc02d4ab5.JPGIMG_7500.JPG.035bb993e237be3897233ac72eb36de1.JPGIMG_7502.JPG.5e1df15d1ae9a7c66a6a50aa17fe77c8.JPGIMG_7504.JPG.d781b4934672af66f45378ee37b7bbdd.JPGIMG_7505.JPG.a65e3702d46886e86b619f83214ca2a3.JPGIMG_7507.JPG.4dc1a55b337864030f1505ab7145ba01.JPGIMG_7508.JPG.1988443a89adb9e0e2bca19dddf55eb9.JPG

It's finally starting to look like something... (I glue two magnets inside the arms so I could attach them to the stand without a visible hole)IMG_7506.JPG.c659d6cf7991ef2d31cf9b4650396c22.JPG

 

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@Urashiman That is so cool to see something different here on the boards. I remember building a few balsa wood kits when I was a kid. Please remember to post any progress pics!

@electric indigo Your work is flawless as usual. It looks really good!

@wm cheng The master is back to the basics! That orange really pops. It seems like masking hell but it all works out in the end.

I want to build right alongside you guys but my space and time are so limited right now. I just need to retire and get right back to it. Soon!

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@wm cheng thanks! and man, that ostrich looks nice. Now I wanna build mine too, but I got that F-14, the VF-171EX, and the balsa plane in the pipeline at the moment.

@Gabe Q Yeah, I do RC stuff quite often. I am a all in one model hobbyist. Plastic injection kits, RC kits and H0 trains hahaha. (and even Lego/Brick models as a quick "trip").

@pengbuzz I see you dotting there (...) - everything okay?

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6 hours ago, Urashiman said:

@pengbuzz I see you dotting there (...) - everything okay?

Not really, but that's pretty much become business as usual for me now; just sick of complaining all the time.

What's behind the "dots": had a couple of projects I was working on that I wanted to post here self-destruct on me. It's getting to where more projects blow up than I get accomplished.

 

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Hey @pengbuzz, sorry to hear that man.  It happens, it happens to me all the time, It happens to my VT-1 that I just posted, did some assemblies in the wrong order, have to crack things open to paint, and then glue back together, putty and sand and refinish because I didn't think ahead enough.  Some tough spots to try and spray into and then only to see some overspray that I had to clean up after I removed the masking - I just didn't take pictures of those 😛  The decals from this 20+ year old kit is breaking up on me in some areas and is reacting to the MicroSOL by curling up small thin sections, but I'm trying to make do with what I got.  You learn from it, hey worst case, you've got some good greebling for your next scratch build.  I know it sucks, but give it some time and step away, it won't look so bad with a little distance.

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Thom and wm cheng: thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it. :) Let me explain a bit further:

The first was a scratchbuild I was doing of the Goodyear blimp (can't afford the actual Revell one!); here's what I was trying to make my own version of:

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I wasted 2 rolls of masking tape trying to make it, only to realize after finishing sealing it up (several layers of tape that cannot be cut without the model falling apart) that I FORGOT TO PUT THE MECHANISM IN TO MAKE THE MESSAGES TURN!!! Now, it's impossible without tearing it to pieces and ruining any sort of smooth finish on it (I'd have to start over).

The second was my conversion of a Hasbro X-wing fuselage (LONG one) into a full studio-scale x-wing. On the x-wing, I was mounting the wing block back into the body after doing some repairs (I found it at a thrift store, but some kid had damaged the s-foil mechanism and I discovered the damage recently during the build), when the wing block slipped out of my hands and it shattered.

Both builds now are unrecoverable as it stands; one took too much materials and left me in dire straits, while the other lies in ruins and I have no way to repair it.

3 hours ago, wm cheng said:

Hey @pengbuzz, sorry to hear that man.  It happens, it happens to me all the time, It happens to my VT-1 that I just posted, did some assemblies in the wrong order, have to crack things open to paint, and then glue back together, putty and sand and refinish because I didn't think ahead enough.  Some tough spots to try and spray into and then only to see some overspray that I had to clean up after I removed the masking - I just didn't take pictures of those 😛  The decals from this 20+ year old kit is breaking up on me in some areas and is reacting to the MicroSOL by curling up small thin sections, but I'm trying to make do with what I got.  You learn from it, hey worst case, you've got some good greebling for your next scratch build.  I know it sucks, but give it some time and step away, it won't look so bad with a little distance.

Wow, that stinks, WMC!! O.o I know all too well the PITA decals can present! If you need, I may have some spare decals for your kit; let me know what you may need!

The problem I'm having is: the last five out of six builds I've attempted have met with disaster. I have enough "greeblies" to start my own greeblie farm! O.o

 

1 hour ago, Thom said:

Hey, @pengbuzz, it's always good to concentrate more on the successes than the ones that don't make it. But still, if you got to vent, vent away. No better place to do so than with other modelers!😉

Appreciated Thom; I just don't want folks here seeing me as a "sad sack"  or Eeyore who is constantly moping and needing help with stuff. I've vented on here several times, just to delete what I posted (much of the "..." posts you see me do).  And what makes all of it worse is that the savings we gained on expenses by moving to a different apartment got eaten up by inflation and we're right back to square one! >:(.

So much for begin able to afford materials... and I wanted to be able to help other people in need out!!

Just been heavy amounts of sheer frustration and incredible depression as of late, and any waste now simply hurts. :(

 

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@pengbuzz

I know the feeling. As I, myself, am one sad sack!:D But don't let our Communal Sackness get you down!

As for the blimp, can it be finished as a 'static' model?

And have you considered starting with a paper model for version 2? I haven't seen any, yet, for the Goodyear blimp, but there are some out there that look close and can, perhaps, be fudged to look like it. And working in card stock might be a bit cheaper than the tape, with cardboard bracing on the inside for added rigidity.

 

https://currell.net/models/mod_free.htm

https://papermau.blogspot.com/2015/09/lz-129-hindenburg-german-airship-paper.html

https://ecardmodels.com/product/1-800-zrs-4-uss-akron-paper-model/

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Thom said:

@pengbuzz

I know the feeling. As I, myself, am one sad sack!:D But don't let our Communal Sackness get you down!

As for the blimp, can it be finished as a 'static' model?

And have you considered starting with a paper model for version 2? I haven't seen any, yet, for the Goodyear blimp, but there are some out there that look close and can, perhaps, be fudged to look like it. And working in card stock might be a bit cheaper than the tape, with cardboard bracing on the inside for added rigidity.

 

https://currell.net/models/mod_free.htm

https://papermau.blogspot.com/2015/09/lz-129-hindenburg-german-airship-paper.html

https://ecardmodels.com/product/1-800-zrs-4-uss-akron-paper-model/

No, it can't; the model lost structural cohesion when I was cutting the opening for the message sign and realized I had forgotten to install the mechanism for moving it.

As it was, this one was masking tape and cardboard; I'm not at all skilled in paper modeling; my hands just won't tolerate it (cannot get fine enough dexterity to do it, tried in the past and failed miserably several times) and my perception goes wonky when doing it. :(

Really wish I could get the plastic model... not gonna happen.

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2 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

No, it can't; the model lost structural cohesion when I was cutting the opening for the message sign and realized I had forgotten to install the mechanism for moving it.

As it was, this one was masking tape and cardboard; I'm not at all skilled in paper modeling; my hands just won't tolerate it (cannot get fine enough dexterity to do it, tried in the past and failed miserably several times) and my perception goes wonky when doing it. :(

Really wish I could get the plastic model... not gonna happen.

Ah, understood. We do what we can.

It's like me wanting to get that 1/700 League of Extraordinary Gentleman Nautilus again. I had two, both gone years ago to pay bills, and now, ho wow $$$$$!!🤯

If not the model (paper or otherwise) how about a toy blimp? There's a Buddy L toy blimp on eBay for about $20.

Thom

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