Gubaba Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 I guess we have a differing opinion in that regard.... Of course we do...I like Macross. You don't. I don't like space helicopters. You do.
1st Border Red Devil Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Of course we do...I like Macross. You don't. I don't like space helicopters. You do. :sigh: Yes, yes, space helicopters. How silly of me...
Duke Togo Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Of course we do...I like Macross. You don't. I don't like space helicopters. You do. How would a helicopter work in space?
Gubaba Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 How would a helicopter work in space? You've seen Southern Cross, yes?
1st Border Red Devil Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 How would a helicopter work in space? It doesn't, nor does the Auroran/Ajax deploy in space in its helicopter configuration.
Gubaba Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 It doesn't, nor does the Auroran/Ajax deploy in space in its helicopter configuration. Okay...then what is it about Southern Cross that presses your button that says "YES"?
Jasonc Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Okay...then what is it about Southern Cross that presses your button that says "YES"? If I had to say what I liked about Southern Cross, it is Jeanne taking a shower... Just kidding, but there was one good thing about it, which was the comedy that was in it. Sadly, that was the only thing that I ended up enjoying from Southern Cross. The mecha and all that is just kinda an afterthought for me. The soldier armor was pretty good, but still not a highlight.
1st Border Red Devil Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) Okay...then what is it about Southern Cross that presses your button that says "YES"? More than anything else, its scenes like this: The only reason I even liked Return of the Jedi as a kid was because of the Battle of Endor. Southern Cross had the only space battles, in my opinion, that were like that. Over time, I learned that I really liked the mecha too. We all like different things. I happen to like Southern Cross, warts and all. Edited August 28, 2011 by 1st Border Red Devil
Jasonc Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 I think Crest of the Stars had much better ship battles than Southern Cross did. Great story, and also an epic opening theme song.
Einherjar Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Which is, of course, something in his favor. To bad he hasn't capitalized on it. Is getting a steady paycheck and maintaining high position in a franchise for as long as possible not considered capitalizing it? I'd love to have his job, or any of the big three, if I got to do as little as he did... if I only didn't have stupid standards. I bet he's going to pull a Olivia Munn eventually. She stayed on G4 for a while pretending to like videogames and other geek stuff and then jumped ship to other ventures to further her career. All the while there was a minority of people who speculated that she was faking it during her time there and using G4 as a stepping stone, which became more convincing when when she suddenly went on to the Daily Show of all places.
Gubaba Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 More than anything else, its scenes like this: The only reason I even liked Return of the Jedi as a kid was because of the Battle of Endor. Southern Cross had the only space battles, in my opinion, that were like that. Over time, I learned that I really liked the mecha too. We all like different things. I happen to like Southern Cross, warts and all. So...it's not the characters or the plot? Okay. I can deal with that.
1st Border Red Devil Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 So...it's not the characters or the plot? Okay. I can deal with that. Some elements of the plot were good. Some weren't. Some characters were good, others were not. Its just my first impression of it was that it had kick butt space battles.
ps99042 Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Didn't Mospeada also have epic space battle scenes? The Mospeada mecha, in my opinion, looks a lot better too.
1st Border Red Devil Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Didn't Mospeada also have epic space battle scenes? Only in the final episode. The Mospeada mecha, in my opinion, looks a lot better too. And?
Robelwell202 Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Unfortunately, I saw something else in that poster... "Robotech: SSDD" (BTW: They decided to stop calling it the Macross Saga, The Masters Saga, and the New Generation? Strange, since HG supposedly 'improved' eah and every one of those individual 'sagas' by stitching them together.)
VF5SS Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 haha who saw this thread and then posted my pic of that poster on /m/ after i got it from /m/ in the first place lol gj
azrael Posted August 29, 2011 Author Posted August 29, 2011 So the people who made that poster, Entertainment One, Ltd., realized Tommy's artwork sucks and resorted to using something from Frontier to make the poster look better? Ouch. Tommy should sue them for defamation.
Einherjar Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Not impressed at all, they can't keep relying on the fact that certain circles use Robotech and Macross interchangeably to confuse people. Guess Robotech still strives on sloppy seconds, eh? Edited August 29, 2011 by Einherjar
JB0 Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Wait, they're remastering it AGAIN? Or do they just mean "since ADV is officially, technically defunct, this is a new edition"? ... Who ARE they in bed with this time, anyways?
Keith Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Wait, they're remastering it AGAIN? Or do they just mean "since ADV is officially, technically defunct, this is a new edition"? ... Who ARE they in bed with this time, anyways? Same exact AnimEigo remaster for Macross, & ADV remaster for Southern Cross and Mospeada, complete with the shitty new sound effects. As for that poster, Pierre Bernard should sue them for using his terminology for each "robotech war" lol. Poor Alto. Edited August 29, 2011 by Keith
hulagu Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Same exact AnimEigo remaster for Macross, & ADV remaster for Southern Cross and Mospeada, complete with the shitty new sound effects. As for that poster, Pierre Bernard should sue them for using his terminology for each "robotech war" lol. Poor Alto. Who is this Alto of whom you speak? Clearly that is an Invid Invasion era Lancer, lol.
Dynaman Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) I bet he's going to pull a Olivia Munn eventually. She stayed on G4 for a while pretending to like videogames and other geek stuff and then jumped ship to other ventures to further her career. I'm sure G4 really didn't care if she was faking or not, strangely that is what actors get paid to do. (only person on the entire G4 staff that I think *REALLY* likes games is Adam Sessler - they fired off all the rest. And yes I am a grumpy old fart after they killed off "The Screen Savers" - the REAL one that is). Edited August 29, 2011 by Dynaman
Funkenstein Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 so this is supposedly from Fanexpo haha Alto can never catch a break.
Shaorin Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Who is this Alto of whom you speak? Clearly that is an Invid Invasion era Lancer, lol. that may be, but i don't hardly believe for a second that his rather striking resemblance in that poster's depiction to one Alto Saotome of MAC. Frontier fame is any sort of mere coincidence. OR to phrase the same assertion much more simply; F&$K YOU, HG!!!! Edited August 29, 2011 by Shaorin
akt_m Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) so this is supposedly from Fanexpo haha Now i really believe that all those videos at youtube using macross as robotech are true and not just trolls. Edited August 29, 2011 by akt_m
Darkwater Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 so this is supposedly from Fanexpo haha This is what happens when graphic designers rely on a Google Image search. I can see panic button being hit at the Harmony Gold HQ as soon as this got out.
azrael Posted August 29, 2011 Author Posted August 29, 2011 Not impressed at all, they can't keep relying on the fact that certain circles use Robotech and Macross interchangeably to confuse people. Guess Robotech still strives on sloppy seconds, eh? See, if Row-bow-tech was truly an awe-inspiring series, something that has stood the test of time, blah blah blah, etc., then you won't need to splash a random image of Macross in the ad(s). It should be able to do it by name alone. Even if this is some ad agency doing the poster, the fact that they put it there only proves Row-bow-tech can't stand on its own. So we come to a "prove me wrong"-moment. Prove to me that you don't need Macross and its franchise, Southern Cross, and Mospeada to survive. If Robotech did such a good job of improving these stories, then you won't need them. Reboot the franchise. If it has stood up all these years, a reboot will not hurt it. Take away the old character and mecha designs and create new ones. Redo the story so that they're strung together into one coherent story instead of Carl Maeck's 90-second sewing job. Stop relying on Macross and its franchise, Southern Cross, and Mospeada. Stop trying to make sequels or sidquels. Stop trying to sell collection set after collection set. Reboot the whole franchise and start fresh. If that can be done, then it will earn my respect. 'Til then.
cannon_fodder674 Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 so this is supposedly from Fanexpo haha oh come on!!
Keith Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Is that why HG will only reveal things at cons? After the panels I bet they drag the "true believers" into a screening room to preview the "real" top secret new Robotech footage, dubs of Frontier
Legioss Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Implying it's called The Masters Saga and not Robotech Masters.
Einherjar Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 This is what happens when graphic designers rely on a Google Image search. I can see panic button being hit at the Harmony Gold HQ as soon as this got out. Remember when people on this thread were talking about someone having the guts to put ads for a DYRL or other release in magazines and seeing if any company would be pissed enough to go to court for it? I think Entertainment One unintentionally put HG close to that kind of situation.
Smegalot Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) I just wonder, how many times can you re-master the same series. especially one that has had slow or non existant sales. and it is only the same people buying in. I mean they would of been better releasing it in Blu-Ray, and even then the sales would be low. Can only flog a horse for so long before it tires and dies........ Also that poster. Has ALTO from MF the whole way. so much for Tommy Yunes creative ability. Probably thinking no-one will pick up on it.... No wonder they only go to the panels for there new info. It wouldn't even register on-line. And even only to people that are hanging on to it. Which I have to assume must be sick of nothing ever coming out ot Tommy Yunes house of Ideas. Oh well another try to stop the slow trajectory to non-existance.... Edited August 30, 2011 by Smegalot
Darkwater Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 Remember when people on this thread were talking about someone having the guts to put ads for a DYRL or other release in magazines and seeing if any company would be pissed enough to go to court for it? I think Entertainment One unintentionally put HG close to that kind of situation. They'll just probably tell them to pull all of these ads ASAP, possibly with a cease & desist. This obviously didn't get run past anyone and HG could probably use this example to demand final approval for all of their future print ads. Normally, a distributor might might scoff and think "We have a crapload of titles to promote, you're just a small production company pushing a 26 year old product," but in this case HG could say "Yeah, and you're violating international copyright law" I've been critical of HG's marketing efforts for years, but even they wouldn't have put out a hack-job like this. First, it's not a "all-new Remastered version," it's the same remastered version they've had for years. Second, there's no copyright symbol next to the Robotech logo. Third, the redundancy of "Robotech: The First Robotech War, Robotech: The Second Robotech War.. etc" is just horrible copy.
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