D' only Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 As long as it looks good, i don't really mind less gimmick. Gimmick is just bonus.
BlueMax Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 As long as it looks good, i don't really mind less gimmick. Gimmick is just bonus. What he said.
blackconvoy_D01 Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 They are aiming for end of the year, but it will still likely end up being in Q1 2012. No reaction missile bays confirmed. I was told that if they had sacrificed the rear landing gear, they may have been able to fit the bays, but there is just not enough room in 1/60 scale to fit everything. Graham Thanks bro! Looking forward to it.
Kelsain Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Yeah, considering the missile bays were only featured in 1 episode, I can live without it. Besides, we already have toys of the other fighters used in Operation. Stargazer, and no missile bays.
Chronocidal Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Indeed, good to hear. While the missile bays would have been fancy, I can't see them doing justice to them without taking away from the other things the leg has to do, so I'm glad they're focusing on landing gear instead. Looks like I'll have to save up extra this year around Christmas time.
hutch Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 End of the year would be insane. Wowza. Still, I'll take it. I can't wait to see this thing.
kanedaestes Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Ok one of two things need to happen, either someone steal grahams phone, or we bride the hell out of yamato to let us see what he has on the phone.
kanedaestes Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Shhhhhhh both options are clandestine black ops stuff....lol
nightmareB4macross Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 They are aiming for end of the year, but it will still likely end up being in Q1 2012. No reaction missile bays confirmed. I was told that if they had sacrificed the rear landing gear, they may have been able to fit the bays, but there is just not enough room in 1/60 scale to fit everything. Graham There is still a possibility and time to have both options present. I think Yamato is too clever to give up too soon even if it is a 1/60 scale. If the primary mode of the VF-17 is battroid, then they can surely make this happen. Yamato just needs to know, "They can do it."
Archer Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 There is still a possibility and time to have both options present. I think Yamato is too clever to give up too soon even if it is a 1/60 scale. If the primary mode of the VF-17 is battroid, then they can surely make this happen. Yamato just needs to know, "They can do it." Well...maybe... They need to incorporate a mechanism to store rifle components, landing gear, as well as now, missile bays. Sure, Yamato has done some crazy clever stuff in the past before, but I do think that cramming all that stuff into one leg compartment may be pushing the lines of physcial possibility, unless the leg was super-sized of course.
arrow Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 I would rather the landing gear and missile bay. and, make the gunpod as a separate piece like the vf-22s
Raptor One Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Why is everyone so obsessed with missile bays all of a sudden? I feel like most people didn't even know the VF-17 had them before it was mentioned in this thread. And why would you want a missile bay that was used in one episode of the anime over a gunpod mechanism that was used in practically EVERY episode?
EXO Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Why is everyone so obsessed with missile bays all of a sudden? I feel like most people didn't even know the VF-17 had them before it was mentioned in this thread. And why would you want a missile bay that was used in one episode of the anime over a gunpod mechanism that was used in practically EVERY episode? Thank you! That's exactly what I was thinking. I don't get why they would even consider a toy in 1/60 scale without retractable landing gears. That's almost like doing away with hands in place of those tiny robot arms in the VF-1S that Roy used to fix the VF-1D.
charger69 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Posted June 23, 2011 I want a proper Gunpod Mechanism over missile bays. It was one of the bad ass sequences of Macross 7, and it's very unique among Macross VFs.
derex3592 Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 I want a proper Gunpod Mechanism over missile bays. It was one of the bad ass sequences of Macross 7, and it's very unique among Macross VFs. +1
kensei Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Not even the VF-22 Bluegazer had missile bays. I'd love also a gunpod gimmick, but that might be hard. I would rather a strong solid battroid and fighter mode and have accessories separate.
Ignacio Ocamica Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 I want a proper Gunpod Mechanism over missile bays. It was one of the bad ass sequences of Macross 7, and it's very unique among Macross VFs. +2 I don't want an extremely oversized leg to accomodate various features where something will probably tend to break.
Knight26 Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 +3! The gunpod and its carriage is more iconic to this mech then the missile bays in the legs that were shown, what once or twice in the entire run of the series? Better to just scribe the panel lines in place to they can say that they are there then focus on the gunpod mechanism. They only comprimise I see is the have the gunpod in the one leg (which is correct) and the missile bay on the opposite leg, but then you would have to sacrifice the beam adapter.
Reïvaj Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 + 6 I'm one of those who didn't even know (or remember) there was a missile bay. Though I do think an openable hatch with a high relief of a missile inside could be possible...
tetsujin Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 They are aiming for end of the year, but it will still likely end up being in Q1 2012. No reaction missile bays confirmed. I was told that if they had sacrificed the rear landing gear, they may have been able to fit the bays, but there is just not enough room in 1/60 scale to fit everything. Graham Personally my priority list would be: 1: landing gear 2: missile bays 3: gunpod mechanism. I guess I'm not as into the idea of a spring-loaded (or whatever) mechanism for carrying the gunpod as other people are. Yeah, it was a distinctive VF-17 feature but it doesn't affect the looks of fighter or battroid mode. Missile bays, though, give it more stealth fighter cred... I'd be more inclined to show off missile bays than a pop-up gunpod. That said, I understand that compromises must be made, and I can appreciate people's interest in having the gunpod mechanism. I'm really impressed that Yamato took this one on. The VF-17 doesn't seem a particularly easy VF to make work "as advertised".
CF18 Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 How about just make the whole missile thing swappable - bay door closed, and bay door opened with missiles lowered. Then it will not need to take up internal space.
Raptor One Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Personally my priority list would be: 1: landing gear 2: missile bays 3: gunpod mechanism. I guess I'm not as into the idea of a spring-loaded (or whatever) mechanism for carrying the gunpod as other people are. Yeah, it was a distinctive VF-17 feature but it doesn't affect the looks of fighter or battroid mode. Missile bays, though, give it more stealth fighter cred... I'd be more inclined to show off missile bays than a pop-up gunpod. This actually makes a lot of sense. I understand the missile bay argument a bit better now. Though I'm not particularly interested in the gunpod actually being spring loaded either. I just want it to be store-able in the leg and hopefully able to be displayed half out.
Actar Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 This actually makes a lot of sense. I understand the missile bay argument a bit better now. Though I'm not particularly interested in the gunpod actually being spring loaded either. I just want it to be store-able in the leg and hopefully able to be displayed half out. Then again, there is logic to the argument that it was hardly ever seen in the Anime... For me, my personal priorities would be Higher Anime Screentime = Higher Priority.
raptormesh Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Whatever it is, I hope for no spring mechanism, as it will just introduce another point of failure plus it may rattle when you zoom in about in F mode.
nightmareB4macross Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Why is everyone so obsessed with missile bays all of a sudden? I feel like most people didn't even know the VF-17 had them before it was mentioned in this thread. And why would you want a missile bay that was used in one episode of the anime over a gunpod mechanism that was used in practically EVERY episode? Hmmm... This questions reason as to why an ElintSeeker that appeared in a movie for only five seconds made a huge impact and was produced, and to this day is still coveted by a lot of fans. One episode or five seconds, either way, the missle bay option should/could be available. Edited June 24, 2011 by nightmareB4macross
eugimon Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Hmmm... This questions reason as to why an ElintSeeker that appeared in a movie for only five seconds made a huge impact and was produced, and to this day is still coveted by a lot of fans. One episode or five seconds, either way, the missle bay option should/could be available. but that's kind of a false analogy. With the vf-17 it's a trade off, missile bays or gunpod and/or landing gear. It's sounds like we can get 2 out of 3 but not everything. With the ve-1, it's not like getting the VE mean not getting the GBP or the strike packs.
nightmareB4macross Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Not really. Like I've stated before, Yamato is clever and there is plenty is time to do this, given Graham's possible due date.
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Then again, there is logic to the argument that it was hardly ever seen in the Anime... For me, my personal priorities would be Higher Anime Screentime = Higher Priority. I agree with the above but I'd sacrifice landing gear. Just make the landing gear a pop-on thing like the 1/72 yf-21. It's space dude. Nobody needs landing gears. lol The valk doesn't land on the surface of planets that have no landing strip for them to land on. They use gerwalk mode and can transform so quickly that they can park in battroid mode. Didn't you see that part in macross plus when dyson dives to the ground in battroid mode and then goes into gerwalk mode at the last moment to show off? That's what valkyries do and I suspect when the vf-1 was first being shown to the public in SDFM, the only reason you see them having to land normally was to keep the secret that the valk is an anti-giant killing machine as well as a fighter plane. Since the VF-17 is a elite valk it gets to launch outside. Landing gears are for pussies. Nobody cared when the yamato vb6 monster had none. I can see more people putting these in battroid mode on a stand anyway. So that's why I think gunpod needs to stay, then missile, then landing gear. Edited June 29, 2011 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Not really. Like I've stated before, Yamato is clever and there is plenty is time to do this, given Graham's possible due date. Yeah but they have limits too. Otherwise we'd have intake covers that are perfect transforming. Just saying..
BlueMax Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 I disagree. I think proper integrated landing gears are critical to the 1/60 Valkyrie toys and is a hygiene factor as far as satisfaction in the line, or the particular valk is concerned. Landing gear was always meant to be part of the valk in the series, even though it wasn't used much in the case of Macross 7 valks. Not having it integrated makes the toy incomplete in my opinion.
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) I'm just saying that only uncool people need it. In fact robot mode allows people to just crash land on the ground like hikaru did in SDFM with his orange vf-1d lol. The toy is complete, you just have to pop the gear on. What isn't complete is the lack of inclusion of side covers for the battroid mode for all yamato 1/60 vf-1 toys. Edited June 29, 2011 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker
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