Graham Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 From just cursory comparisons - looks like the 'off' detailing may be due to the head stripes not tapering down as far as in the line art and also the visor not being as 'open' - looks a little "squinty", here is a quick comparison; Good points. Graham
BlueMax Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I am quite happy with the scuplt of the D head as it is, though I would not mind any improvements.
Ahab Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I definitely want the Macross 7 Valks despite the fact that Macross 7 is at the bottom of the list of my favorite Macross series/movies. I seriously tried watching it very recently and could not get past episode 2. This was probably my third or fourth attempt trying to watch it and is the furthest I have ever gotten. As a Macross fan, I gotta get through it some time but it's so difficult. Just something about it totally turns me off. It really does feel like a chore to watch. I'll try again one day and get through it. It's supposed to get a lot better but just getting over that initial hump is killing me. I'm in full agreement, bro. Anyhow, I'm looking at the VF-19S as my first purchase followed by the VF-17S. I'll save Basara for after I've exhausted all other things Valk from Yamato or Bandai. I only hope the VF-17S will be re-released with the fast packs.
IXTL Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Now that it's been mentioned. I can't not see a cherry on a cupcake when looking at the 1/60 17D's head sensor. Of course I'd have preferred it to be made out of clear red plastic like the visor and obviously shaped less like cherry... but I still like it as it is. The VF-17D's head design is arguably my favorite.
Agent-GHQ Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 WTF.... This head reminds me of a clitorius!? lmao
pud333 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Up close, that red dot does look a bit silly. But I'm stilly buying it.
GGemini Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 From just cursory comparisons - looks like the 'off' detailing may be due to the head stripes not tapering down as far as in the line art and also the visor not being as 'open' - looks a little "squinty", here is a quick comparison; This ^ Another comparison: Been waiting for this VF for years so I'll still buy it anyway
IXTL Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) This ^ Another comparison: <pic snip> Been waiting for this VF for years so I'll still buy it anyway Not pushing the panic button yet but the shade of gray on the head does need to be darker too. Love the look of the 17D head in that screen cap from the OP. Edited February 13, 2012 by IXTL
danth Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Maybe the red dot would look less silly if it were made of the same transparent plastic as the visor?
IXTL Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) On the topic of the Super Pack, I just realised that the pieces under the wings will need to be removed and placed onto the legs in B-mode. I wonder if it's similar for the pieces that end up on the battroid's back. Edited February 13, 2012 by IXTL
eugimon Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 On the topic of the Super Pack, I just realised that the pieces under the wings will need to be removed and placed onto the legs in B-mode. I wonder if it's similar for the pieces that end up on the battroid's back. they don't get removed, they're still on the legs, they just fold out for fighter mode. http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross7/vf-17s-superpack/vf-17s-superpack-fighter-lineart.gif
Graham Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 But on the toy, they will have to be removed from the wings and placed back on the legs. Graham
BlueMax Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I guess some compromises are necessary as far as this aspect is concerned.
PsYcHoDyNaMiX Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Okay... I apologize for using Kurisama, Rejavi, and GGemini's pics, but for good reference and cause. I agree that the VF-17D's head looks a bit weird... Yamato could at least follow some of the relative line art aspects. Such as the areas marked in their respective colors. Green: this piece should be one and not two separate pieces. I know Yamato's current method makes the engineering/assembly process easier, but at least they can taper down the top of the sides on the green section. Not where it currently stands on their wonderfestival display. It shouldn't go above the head turret base. Blue: Possibly the revised shape of the top (gray) part of the head. In conjunction with the magenta section. Magenta: I feel that the top (gray) part of the head shouldn't extend all the way out to the back edge. Close, but not exact. Refer to the line art for a better idea. Red: Agreeing with everyone else here... the sensor should be transparent, at least not something so bright, or even a bit smaller. The visor should be taller... extended in the vertical directions. Teal: Yes, the lines should be re-positioned. And yes... the illustration sucks (it looks more like a clown than ever!). I'm still new at using a wacom tablet. The pic is just for a general idea of how much more accurate the head can be to the line art using the actual reference points which feature the VF-17S' icon head. Edited February 13, 2012 by PsYcHoDyNaMiX
PsYcHoDyNaMiX Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) 17D head looks fine to me Yea... it looks 'fine', but not $300 fine. Currently for some reason it reminds me of a helmetless Robocop: ***EDIT*** Sorry forgot to add... 'plenty of fivehead (forehead+1)', maybe sixhead depending how much you add to the math, lol. Edited February 13, 2012 by PsYcHoDyNaMiX
jenius Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Man... this is a tough crowd. I'm debating which one I want to keep, the 17S or the 17D (because I'm sure I'll own both at one time but they're so similar I doubt I'll hold onto both).
charger69 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Yea... it looks 'fine', but not $300 fine. Currently for some reason it reminds me of a helmetless Robocop: ***EDIT*** Sorry forgot to add... 'plenty of fivehead (forehead+1)', maybe sixhead depending how much you add to the math, lol. Admit it, 17D head looks way better than George Costanza Edited February 13, 2012 by charger69
PsYcHoDyNaMiX Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Agreed! That's a tough one to beat, lol.
Old Man Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Currently for some reason it reminds me of a helmetless Robocop: LMFAO!!! Dude, I was thinking the exact same thing!
Graham Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I've emailed our comments and comparisons to Yamato. Up to them if they act on them. If I do get a reply call or email, I'll post what they say. Graham
Graham Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Although I like the current head sculpt, I agree the proposed changes would make it look even better and closer to the lineart. However, the whole cherry cupcake thing is gonna be permanently stuck in my head when I look at it now. Graham
treatment Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 WTF.... This head reminds me of a clitorius!? lmao well, ya know, Yamato's also gonna be selling a giant dildo:
Graham Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Well, just got a short email reply from Yamato about the VF-17D head: I have passed your comments to the guy in charge. We are going to release 17D around XXXX. and the sculpt is not final. I will keep you posted. So there is hope for change. Graham
Knightdramon Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Graham, any chance for the purple spiritia gun the VF17 and Dokker's VF19S used towards the end of the show being included with the fastpacks OR the VF17D???
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Bet Kawamori dictated the color change(pale grey, lighter blue), like he did with the VF-0A cannon fodder,(toy was grey, animation=brown/tan)
Omegablue Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Well, just got a short email reply from Yamato about the VF-17D head: I have passed your comments to the guy in charge. We are going to release 17D around XXXX. and the sculpt is not final. I will keep you posted. So there is hope for change. Graham Arghhhhhhhhh!!!! The cupcake valk gets instant attention and reply by Yamato! Where's the v2 Stealth and Low Vis? *Runs in circles in bedroom while whining to the roof* This is torture! well, ya know, Yamato's also gonna be selling a giant dildo: Is this how baby valks are made?
Ignacio Ocamica Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 However, the whole cherry cupcake thing is gonna be permanently stuck in my head when I look at it now. Graham Let me introduce the Amigurumi Nightmare: Permanently stuck in my head too
Desty_Nova Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 They're joking right? Still no tampo on the D? I'm holding off buying any Vf-17 until they tampo it. For the crazy price they're asking it's the least they can do.
Froy Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 About the fast packs: I hope a much more reasonable price. The sound booster for the 19s was a steal. And if the are going to over price it again it whould be nice if yamato includes a FOLD BOOSTER. I have beeing waithing for a damn fold boster for my YF-21. No I'm going to need one for my 17 and may be more since I will be getin' on or 2 of those 17D.
Actar Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 They're joking right? Still no tampo on the D? I'm holding off buying any Vf-17 until they tampo it. For the crazy price they're asking it's the least they can do. Thank goodness the designers liked the lines on it as well, otherwise, we might have had to sticker those on ourslevees like with some model kit or something. (^.^
Graham Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 Let me introduce the Amigurumi Nightmare: Permanently stuck in my head too Haha, that's funny.But seriously, the 'cup' of the cupcake is about the right size and shape for the visor. Graham
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