taksraven Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 This one really crept up on me. Not a remake, kind of a re-imagining, but it is certainly exploring an area that hasn't been explored before properly. Should be interesting. http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/apeswillrise/ Quote
DarrinG Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 Clicked the link thinking "This Again?!" -- but it looks pretty awesome. Explains how it all started... Quote
Dynaman Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 After the stupidity of the "Apes" remake I'll wait for this on home video. To be fair, it probably will not be worse then any of the "Apes" sequals... Quote
taksraven Posted April 14, 2011 Author Posted April 14, 2011 Clicked the link thinking "This Again?!" -- but it looks pretty awesome. Explains how it all started... My thoughts exactly. It looks very promising. (love the shot of the apes swinging through the trees.) It *really* surprised me though because I thought it was still in development hell and years away, not about to be released in 4 months. The Weta effects look great too. I wonder which ape Andy Serkis will play? Quote
Knight26 Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 That actually looks interesting, and possibly well written, still want to know if it will show the nuke war and why humans degenerated Quote
JELEINEN Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 I don't know. Visually, it looks great, but I'm so sick and tired of the science is evil drivel that Hollywood is stuck on. Also, unless those apes literally breed like rabits, there's no way they're taking over the world. Quote
taksraven Posted April 14, 2011 Author Posted April 14, 2011 I don't know. Visually, it looks great, but I'm so sick and tired of the science is evil drivel that Hollywood is stuck on. Also, unless those apes literally breed like rabits, there's no way they're taking over the world. Yes, we all know where true evil resides...... Quote
Gui Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 I don't know. Visually, it looks great, but I'm so sick and tired of the science is evil drivel that Hollywood is stuck on. Also, unless those apes literally breed like rabits, there's no way they're taking over the world. All the more as serious scientists would simply sterilize such subjects, precisely to avoid getting any troubles in case the experiment goes wrong. The original prequel was more interesting IMO, and more believable... Quote
Dynaman Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 I don't know. Visually, it looks great, but I'm so sick and tired of the science is evil drivel that Hollywood is stuck on. Also, unless those apes literally breed like rabits, there's no way they're taking over the world. Ditto, one of the things I liked from "28 Days Later" is the fact that the do-gooder animal rights people caused the release of the epidemic. Back to Apes - the Ape Jumping at the helicopter reminds me of another movie about a Megashark... Quote
JELEINEN Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 All the more as serious scientists would simply sterilize such subjects, precisely to avoid getting any troubles in case the experiment goes wrong. The original prequel was more interesting IMO, and more believable... It's been years since I read the book, but I seem to recall that the original premise was that uplifted apes had become a widespread slave labor force before they took over. Quote
Gui Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 That was the synopsis of one of the prequel movies, yes, but the original book by Pierre Boule doesn't say anything on this point because the story of the novel actually happens onto another planet. Quote
big F Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 When I first saw the thread title I thought it would be the second part of the Tim Burton remake. IMO that film finished right when it got interesting. Looks like it could be good especially if it follows the book more closely. I have never read the original novel but plan to do so as everyone I know who has says I should. Quote
eugimon Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 All the more as serious scientists would simply sterilize such subjects, precisely to avoid getting any troubles in case the experiment goes wrong. The original prequel was more interesting IMO, and more believable... Yeah, it s a neat play on the fear of gmos, but I cant see how a handful of escaped super monkeys would take over the world. Looks like Resident Monkey, to me. Quote
badboy00z Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Anyone else think the title is kind of weird?? They should have just named it Rise of the Apes. Quote
taksraven Posted April 18, 2011 Author Posted April 18, 2011 Anyone else think the title is kind of weird?? They should have just named it Rise of the Apes. Going by what I've heard, "Rise of the Apes" was the original title but it was changed to "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" fairly recently. (The new, longer title was announced on April 7.) I think its all simply to do with brand recognition. Quote
JELEINEN Posted April 20, 2011 Posted April 20, 2011 That was the synopsis of one of the prequel movies, yes, but the original book by Pierre Boule doesn't say anything on this point because the story of the novel actually happens onto another planet. Now I'm going to drive myself crazy trying to figure out where I picked up that bit of information since I've never seen those films and I've known it since pre-internet time. Quote
Vepariga Posted April 21, 2011 Posted April 21, 2011 Looks decent enough,I just hope its better then that awful remake a few years ago..eugh..Orginal planet of the apes is king. Quote
Gui Posted April 21, 2011 Posted April 21, 2011 Now I'm going to drive myself crazy trying to figure out where I picked up that bit of information since I've never seen those films and I've known it since pre-internet time. Maybe it's in a novelization of the movie... Quote
Keith Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 This was surprisingly good. Just the right amount of new & nods to the old. Definately way better than Burton's Apes. I also liked how they threw in a bit of 12 Monkeys for good measure. The subtle inclusion of backgorund events, such as the lost astronauts left them enough wiggle room to continue this series, or leave it as a potential beginning for the original. Ceasar for the win. Quote
505thAirborne Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Good to hear this, might go see it tomorrow! Quote
anime52k8 Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 I haven't seen it but reading the waikipedia article on it the plot sounds absolutely moronic. Quote
PetarB Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 I really enjoyed this, I saw it last night. It was very restrained when it needed to the be and the final minute or so what a real 'wow' for me. Looks like it's doing well at the box-office too, so we'll probably see a follow up in a couple of years. I was not a fan at all of the original movies, so this was a pleasant surprise. Quote
EXO Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 Loved it. Second movie I liked after a summer of disappointments. Was a surprise too. Thought it was gonna suck. Quote
reddsun1 Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 The trailer that gets me is the one that calls Ceaser "Hero." To WHO? Ha! Hollywood and its bass-ackwards heart on their sleeve sentimentalities... What, so we're supposed to be impressed with 90 minutes of some CGI ape mean-muggin? making angy faces? **oooooooohhh** My ass... It's a damn good thing I'm not a film critic: "You want to know what I think? You really want to know what I think of this film?!" **stands, craps in hand, throws it at movie screen** "ooh! ah! oo oo aah ah! graaahhhh!" Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 The trailer that gets me is the one that calls Ceaser "Hero." To WHO? Ha! Hollywood and its bass-ackwards heart on their sleeve sentimentalities... What, so we're supposed to be impressed with 90 minutes of some CGI ape mean-muggin? making angy faces? **oooooooohhh** My ass... It's a damn good thing I'm not a film critic: "You want to know what I think? You really want to know what I think of this film?!" **stands, craps in hand, throws it at movie screen** "ooh! ah! oo oo aah ah! graaahhhh!" I agree completely. Quote
reddsun1 Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) "...not the fastest...not the strongest..." I've heard before that apes are something on the order of 6-7 times stronger than humans. I've often wondered what the reason for this would be? Is it that they have more muscle fibers in a given group [bicep, tricep, etc.]? Are their muscle tissues "more dense" or something? Just how is it that they possess so much more physical strength? One need only remember Connecticut woman Carla Nash, who had her face literally torn apart by a chimp, to realize such estimates of strength are certainly not far off the mark. ed: to the esteemed Mr. Serkis - you sir, are NO Roddy McDowall... "Where there is fire, there is smoke. And in that smoke, from this day forward, my people will crouch, and conspire, and plot, and plan for the inevitable day of Man's downfall. The day when he finally and self-destructively turns his weapons against his own kind. The day of the writing in the sky, when your cities lie buried under radioactive rubble! When the sea is a dead sea, and the land is a wasteland out of which I will lead my people from their captivity! And we will build our own cities, in which there will be no place for humans except to serve our ends! And we shall found our own armies, our own religion, our own dynasty! And that day is upon you NOW!" Edited August 8, 2011 by reddsun1 Quote
Dynaman Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 I've heard before that apes are something on the order of 6-7 times stronger than humans. I've often wondered what the reason for this would be? This is not about Apes, but chimps - and recent studies find them to be roughly twice as strong as humans. Interesting info about more recent studies and a couple DNA differences are pointed out as well. Mostly it boils down to differences in muscle layout. http://www.slate.com/id/2212232/ Quote
reddsun1 Posted August 8, 2011 Posted August 8, 2011 This is not about Apes, but chimps - and recent studies find them to be roughly twice as strong as humans. Interesting info about more recent studies and a couple DNA differences are pointed out as well. Mostly it boils down to differences in muscle layout. http://www.slate.com/id/2212232/ Hmm, interesting. Longer muscle fibers, eh? This is what I should like medical science to crack the secret to. That, and syhthesizing or producing [preferably stimulating natural production] of this ACTN3....I should want to "stretch" my muscle fibers--so that I can rip the faces from my adversaries! --Crush your enemies [faces], see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women! **mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha hah!!** Quote
taksraven Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 Hmm, interesting. Longer muscle fibers, eh? This is what I should like medical science to crack the secret to. That, and syhthesizing or producing [preferably stimulating natural production] of this ACTN3....I should want to "stretch" my muscle fibers--so that I can rip the faces from my adversaries! --Crush your enemies [faces], see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women! **mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha hah!!** Reddsun1's sanity has left the building....... Quote
Bowen Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Reddsun1's sanity has left the building....... Who needs sanity when you can literally deface people? Anyway, looking forward to seeing this myself somewhere in the next couple of days Quote
myk Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Darn it. I was so hoping that Marky Mark would continue his role in this franchise... Quote
Roy Focker Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Darn it. I was so hoping that Marky Mark would continue his role in this franchise... I didn't that movie with Marky Mark was that bad people as make it out to be. Quote
troyness Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) I liked it!! I,m just sooo thankfull that CGI,FX,things blowing up, wasn,t shoved down my throat,or up my ass. I liked the story building for 90mins before it,s climax,and hopeful sequal. Not enough violence at the end(considering that when ape,s&chimps fight amongst themselves they bite each others fingers off,and rip genitals off) I was wondering how they were gonna handle that in an M rating once they confront humans,but I liked how ceaser handled that,but would have prefered a bit of ape on human body destruction..but maybe later. All in all I,m glad it wasn,t a mind dumbing FX, in your face, headache inducing BS superhero/transformers approach Edited August 10, 2011 by troyness Quote
wolfx Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 Just watched it. Was pleasantly surprised on how good it was. Quote
Roy Focker Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 I liked it!! I,m just sooo thankfull that CGI,FX,things blowing up, wasn,t shoved down my throat,or up my ass. I liked the story building for 90mins before it,s climax,and hopeful sequal. Not enough violence at the end(considering that when ape,s&chimps fight amongst themselves they bite each others fingers off,and rip genitals off) I was wondering how they were gonna handle that in an M rating once they confront humans,but I liked how ceaser handled that,but would have prefered a bit of ape on human body destruction..but maybe later. All in all I,m glad it wasn,t a mind dumbing FX, in your face, headache inducing BS superhero/transformers approach I think that is because Caesar decided to take the higher ground in his rebellion. There's still that evil looking Ape still and you know he's going to de-throne Caesar and turn humans in to their slaves under threat biting off their genitals. Quote
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