CF18 Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Some detail of the power short fall - it's going to take a long time to recover. http://spikejapan.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/after-the-earthquake-a-long-hot-summer/ Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Further to the Japan Times article on foreign press getting flak for sensationalizing, I found this database of stupid over-the-top news articles related to the disaster, complete with a "Severity of Offense" rating for each: http://jpquake.wikispaces.com/Journalist+Wall+of+Shame Oh, British tabloids, how lovely to see you again. The Daily Mail website ran that "Supermoon" thing in a boxout in an article about the disaster, only a couple of days after it happened. I was so angry that if I hadn't been at work I would have punched the screen... Quote
CF18 Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jim-berkland-earthquake-noth/2011/03/19/id/390022 One "super moon" guy has been giving interview, predicting that a major North American Earthquake this week... More on the media... Edited March 22, 2011 by CF18 Quote
sketchley Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-20110314-Shibuyaeggman.JPG "Shibuya Eggman"?? Fox News, that pinnacle of journalism, has mistaken a live house for a f*cking nuclear power plant. The mind boggles. Actually, I think Fukuyama played there many years ago, maybe they should check him for radiation. I [sarcasm]like[/sarcasm] how they have Sendai (which isn't even a reactor!) at the bottom of Kyushu, when it's supposed to be near "Onagawa" on the map. :roll: More on the media... [vid linky] Funny, and extremely scary at the same time. Those news clips of explanations were... uhm, wow. Journalistic low points? Compare to a Japanese news explanation: Wish I could find the ones that I saw on ANN, JNN and so on. Ah well, at least this one's got an English translation. It's not indicated in the voice over, but their expert is a Tokyo University professor. Edited March 22, 2011 by sketchley Quote
Gubaba Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I [sarcasm]like[/sarcasm] how they have Sendai (which isn't even a reactor!) at the bottom of Kyushu, when it's supposed to be near "Onagawa" on the map. :roll: No, that one's actually correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendai_Nuclear_Power_Plant Quote
sketchley Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 No, that one's actually correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendai_Nuclear_Power_Plant Crap! Missed it on Renato's linky: http://www.nucleartourist.com/world/japan.htm Quote
Macross_Fanboy Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Well, full time evacuation of about 87000 people from bases in Japan has commenced. Today at Travis the first wave of "American Refugees" landed at the air terminal, so I wonder if there really is a no sh!t problem, or if it's just a "cover your ass" operation. I would think the latter. We had to send a few volunteers from our side of the base to help the Chair Force out, not quite sure what it consisted of, I didn't feel like going because I felt it was just gonna be humping luggage around and after moving a 500lbs safe, NO THANKS! Quote
big F Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 That Fox news debacle does not suprise me, having worked in the News Corp Group, the get it out now!!! and don't check it properly method is a company policy. Saw a program once where the news guy had a map of the world and all the countries names were mixed up, he asked people to point out where places like Iraq and Russia and Australia were, the amount of people who got it wrong was worrying. Then they showed some more people the same map with all the names in the right place but some removed and asked them to put the names were they should be. ~ suffice to say not everyone got it right. Isn't Australia that big place just below Spain ?? Shame you cant see the Charlie Brooker clip (Channel 4 blocked it), He lampoons the media so well. Some of the Celebs he has on there I'm sure don't know its a spoof program. Quote
reddsun1 Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jim-berkland-earthquake-noth/2011/03/19/id/390022 One "super moon" guy has been giving interview, predicting that a major North American Earthquake this week... More on the media... LOL. A fair bit more sharp-tongued than say, Stephen Colbert... I don't know which is worse: that the satire and sarchasm of these pseudo-news shows is so often on-the-mark; OR that so many open-mouth-breathers look to shows like The Daily Show and The Colbert Report (here in the US) and think they're legitimate news sources. Quote
505thAirborne Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Not sure if anyone posted this yet, But I was just over at "Cost Plus-World Market" today and any Japanese or Asian products (Food, candies, Sodas, etc) you buy from them they are donating all sales to Help with Japan relief efforts, I thought that was pretty cool of them for doing that. So I stocked up!! Quote
505thAirborne Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Got a year's supply of pocky, did we? Among other goodies they had on sale! Quote
big F Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Apparently they are now scanning all food stuffs from Japan that enter into the U.K, just in case they are radioactive. Quote
VF-19 Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Apparently they are now scanning all food stuffs from Japan that enter into the U.K, just in case they are radioactive. Isn't that a little overkill? Yes, radiation is bad for you, but really, will eating and drinking slightly radioactive food hurt you? Probably not. Then again, I think I just gave myself my own answer... Quote
David Hingtgen Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Remember, most all bananas will set off the meter. Brazil nuts and cocoa too, in large amounts. And of course, due to having a calcium-based skeleton, people are slightly radioactive too. (but unless you eat some really weird stuff you're not going to set off the meter) Quote
eugimon Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Remember, most all bananas will set off the meter. Brazil nuts and cocoa too, in large amounts. And of course, due to having a calcium-based skeleton, people are slightly radioactive too. (but unless you eat some really weird stuff you're not going to set off the meter) don't forget those fancy granite counter tops that are all the rage. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah, but people don't eat granite. (nor marble, which is almost as bad IIRC) I think a match-head is also notably radioactive, due to the phosphorous. Quote
eugimon Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah, but people don't eat granite. (nor marble, which is almost as bad IIRC) I think a match-head is also notably radioactive, due to the phosphorous. But they do wash their food in granite sinks, prepare their food on granite countertops, walk around barefoot on granite floors. Quote
CF18 Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Apparently they are now scanning all food stuffs from Japan that enter into the U.K, just in case they are radioactive. Because they have be found with over legal limit in Hong Kong. http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/03/23/japan.food/ And before you go all "banana" if only extra potassium-40 is detected no one would be worried. It's the caesium-137 and iodine-131 that can be nasty if ingested. There is no need to panic, but I am not going put my head in the sand and pretending it is all fine. Mean while ten days after the earthquake, smoke still coming out from all 4 reactors. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/24_18.html Quote
sketchley Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Mean while ten days after the earthquake, steam still coming out from all 4 reactors. Fixed. Let's keep the radiation-in-everyday-things in other threads, please and thank you. Radiation rises in Tokyo water (Don't let babies under age 1 drink from the tap, officials say): http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110324a1.html Kan widens ban on contaminated food: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110324a2.html Quote
eugimon Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Fixed. Let's keep the radiation-in-everyday-things in other threads, please and thank you. Radiation rises in Tokyo water (Don't let babies under age 1 drink from the tap, officials say): http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110324a1.html Kan widens ban on contaminated food: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110324a2.html Where do you get that it was steam? The workers, the local news and international news media are all reporting it as SMOKE. In one instance, Tokyo Electric described it as billowing BLACK SMOKE. I get that you have this need to present everything in Japan as wonderful and cheery but your continual refusal to admit to the severity of the crisis and continual harassing and chastising members who are relaying the news is neither wanted nor helpful. In other news, height estimates of tsunami are in and they're saying 77 feet. Quote
sketchley Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Where do you get that it was steam? Uhm, before you go off on a tirade, did you even read the article the member linked to? Here it is as you appear unable to use the link function: Steam rising from 4 reactors at Fukushima plantAn NHK helicopter crew has confirmed what appears to be steam rising from No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 reactor buildings at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. This is the first time that steam has been seen coming out of the No.1 reactor. The helicopter crew was filming from a location more than 30 kilometers from the plant shortly before 7:00 AM on Thursday. The Tokyo Electric Power Company says that black smoke seen rising from the No.3 reactor building on Wednesday was no longer visible as of 6:00 AM Thursday. Thursday, March 24, 2011 09:31 +0900 (JST) Edited March 24, 2011 by sketchley Quote
David Hingtgen Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Radiation rises in Tokyo water (Don't let babies under age 1 drink from the tap, officials say): There's about a billion things that'll make tapwater unsafe for kids under 1 to drinnk. In Iowa it's almost a monthly occurence. (nitrates, ground water, radon, decaying leaves, etc). Also, "legal limit" and "unsafe" can be very different. And of course, there's always stuff where it can be unsafe but still legal. (look at all the outcry about flouride added to water). Really, milk is the only thing I would be concerned about---just due to how well it absorbs radiation, how much kids drink, and practically deposits it straight into the skeleton. I would have flat-out banned all milk in the area immediately, period. I'm just waiting for the yen to drop a bit more against the dollar before I order some stuff from Japan... Quote
Neova Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Here in HK, white radish and spinach from Japan have been seized from release to retail markets due to higher than normal radiation as note above. Hopefully, this will all pass for everyone. Quote
sketchley Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 I'm just waiting for the yen to drop a bit more against the dollar before I order some stuff from Japan... Hard to say when that will happen. There have been some interventions (Japanese government, G7), but it's still largely under the control of market forces. Such as the revision of the investor ratings on most or all Japanese Insurers to "unprofitable"... which may have a compounding effect if there is a flood of overseas investors altering their portfolios to non-Japanese investments. Quote
sketchley Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Japan Times have introduced a new feature - middle column, above Business: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news.htm Visual data updates MAP: Most recent earthquake (from tenki.jp) MAP: Maximum radiation levels by prefecture GRAPH: Interactive visualization of radioactivity levels GRAPH: Daily radiation levels in eastern Japan GRAPH: Radioactivity concentration in water by prefecture Some pretty interesting (and interactive) stuff. It took me a bit to figure out, but if you maximize the max radiation level by prefecture pop-up, you can make it full-screen, and it's a lot easier to interact with. Radioactivity concentration in water is in Japanese only at the time of writing. Quote
CrazyMartian Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-03-24/gundam-macross-quake-messages-by-okawara-kawamori I don't know if it has been mentioned, but I read this in ANN a few minutes ago. The Gundam illustration looks standard... That dog... I don't know, but Kawamori's illustration is... beyond words... I would never have imagined the 25 and 29 (?) in that context... Quite... ..cute... Edited March 25, 2011 by CrazyMartian Quote
sketchley Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-03-24/gundam-macross-quake-messages-by-okawara-kawamori I don't know if it has been mentioned, but I read this in ANN a few minutes ago. The Gundam illustration looks standard... That dog... I don't know, but Kawamori's illustration is... beyond words... I would never have imagined the 25 and 29 (?) in that context... Quite... ..cute... See here for the news: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=30860&view=findpost&p=903503 A few posts later there's also a scanlation of it. Quote
HEY BOYS Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) Breaking news bout finding the radiation levels 10 million timess more then normal equals w t h http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/27/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html http://www.businessinsider.com/radiation-10-million-times-normal-fukushima-march-27-2011-3 Edited March 27, 2011 by HEY BOYS Quote
sketchley Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Breaking news bout finding the radiation levels 10 million timess more then normal equals w t h Article: Japan nuclear crisis: Radiation spike report 'mistaken': http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12875327 Quote
Kyp Durron Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Another 6.5 quake hit Japan: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110328/ts_nm/us_japan_quake_urgent -Kyp Quote
taksraven Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Kent: Uh, Mr. Burns, people are calling this a meltdown. Burns: [laughs] Oh, meltdown. It's one of those annoying buzzwords. We prefer to call it an unrequested fission surplus. (Does Burns attitude sound familiar at all??) FARK!!!! Quote
areaseven Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 In Hong Kong, Kamen Rider fans helped out in supporting the earthquake relief. Quote
e_jacob77 Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 HI all, I was once told that on one side of a quarter, 1 persons truth, on the onther, another's. My first response, NO, there is only truth. 2nd interpretation, 2 sides are truth, with white lie in the middle. Tha latter needs defintion. One side, male, the other female. Free-will says were equal. However, in nature were different enuff. Now, Japan, since it's considered that they are the largest leaders in technology, a shame that they place so much emphsis on energy that could harm them yet again WWII. Perhaps, could that white lie, be also a natural phenomenon occuring reminder so that people are remimded, that thru such research in solar energy be better. Japan is a small country amongst others, so solar panels are pretty much out, due to their current size. Why not other attempts at cold fusion? Research should be considered, until it's realized. Or perhaps the following link an inital starting point over the other in use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium Quote
sketchley Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 HI all, I was once told that on one side of a quarter, 1 persons truth, on the onther, another's. My first response, NO, there is only truth. 2nd interpretation, 2 sides are truth, with white lie in the middle. Tha latter needs defintion. One side, male, the other female. Free-will says were equal. However, in nature were different enuff. Now, Japan, since it's considered that they are the largest leaders in technology, a shame that they place so much emphsis on energy that could harm them yet again WWII. Perhaps, could that white lie, be also a natural phenomenon occuring reminder so that people are remimded, that thru such research in solar energy be better. Japan is a small country amongst others, so solar panels are pretty much out, due to their current size. Why not other attempts at cold fusion? Research should be considered, until it's realized. Or perhaps the following link an inital starting point over the other in use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium Not that it's really on topic or anything, but... Japan does have some, and is, if memory serves, experimenting with such things as geothermal and wind power. I'm also trying to get some of my adult students to push the government into getting some energy from the ocean currents (tidal flows). Not that there's enough students to motivate the government... Nevertheless, for the past couple of years, there has been a push to add solar panels and a kind of water heater that creates heat and stores it only from the differences between daytime highs and nighttime lows - however, both are currently prohibitively expensive (at least in our case) compared to the monetary savings returns (which is based on the amount of power generated which is based on the number of panels we can install on our roof). Anyhow, we've switched from incandescent light bulbs to neon light bulbs, and I encourage other MW members, both within and outside Japan to do the same. Not only do they last longer, but they consume considerably less electricity so that in the long-term, they are more than worth the slightly more expensive initial cost in reduced electric bills. Quote
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