Raptor One Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) It makes sense since the VF-9 is just a regular old valk and the rest are all Advanced VFs or greater. So the VF-9 is named after a dinky little cutlass while the rest are named after mythical swords lol but this one doesn't have forward swept wings. But it's a variant of a base model with forward swept wings *shrug* Edited January 28, 2011 by Raptor One Quote
David Hingtgen Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 I figured the VF-9 Cutlass was named after the F7U Cutlass. Kawamori seemed to definitely be homaging fighters of that era then. VF-3000 Crusader after the F8U Crusader, etc. Quote
Zinjo Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Yes, a few days ago. We've been discussing it in the YF-29 toy thread. It's Durendal or Durandal, named after the legendary mythical French sword. Kawamori seems to have a mythical sword thing going at the moment. Graham Its a trend. All the "9" series VFs are forward swept fighters with sword names. I'm sure at some point he'll break out of this trend just "because"... Quote
Graham Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Studying the line art of the YF-29, I'm surprised the wing-mounted engine nacelles don't feature dorsal and ventral verniers. I would have thought that would have been an no-brainer to improve roll rate in both space and atmosphere? The Tornado pack has dorsal and ventral verniers on the wing-tip engine nacelles, so why not the Durandal? Graham Quote
David Hingtgen Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Because Bandai designed it, not Kawamori? Quote
SchizophrenicMC Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Because Bandai designed it, not Kawamori? Tobe! Barukiri? 0_0 Quote
yui1107 Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) (Y)VF-29_Durendal_3D-CAD-5view Shoji-Kawamori said "VF-X9 number are swept-wings more atmosphic Variable-Fighter(VF-9,VF-19,and NOW! (Y)VF-29) variants than VF-X7 number variants(VF-7,VF-17/171,VF-27... etc.)" (Y)VF-29_Durendal 3D-CAD " Plus 1,LOW view " (6view) ,but small size! Attatchments file type is .bmp (big-size data), but 3D-CAD 5view image from 163 page "Dengeki Hobby March 2011"! YF-29.bmp Edited February 4, 2011 by yui1107 Quote
frothymug Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Holy panel lines, Batman! It's starting to look pretty sexy. Just need to see GERWALK and battroid modes, now. Quote
manwiththemachinegun Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Hey, it gets bonus points for being named after my favorite mythic sword. Quote
Zinjo Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 Yeah definitely a merchandizing design. Nearly all the basic elements are already in the VF-25. Converting toy molds over to this will be cheap and easy for Bandai! Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Ok, this is getting utterly ridiculous.. they added MORE ENGINES. It's like they tacked a tornado pack onto the already tornado-ish design. "Hey, I put some more engines on your engines, so you can go faster while you're going faster!" This is approaching Tim Taylor levels. Next, it's going to be dual wielding plasma rifles, and strapping a pair of reaction missiles to each of the four engine pods. Quote
eugimon Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 looks more like a missile pod or something than another engine. but hey, at least they aren't funnels. Quote
Mommar Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Other thank the wonky-ass engines on the wings I'm actually really feeling that Gerwalk mode. Quote
charger69 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) How can they add the new missile pods? There is not enough room for that on the wing tips? I think extra engines are sliding over the wings to get closer to the body then you can add the missile pods? Or extra wing parts with missiles are added(becoming ridiculously long wings)? Edited February 9, 2011 by charger69 Quote
Raptor One Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Looks pretty good. Can't wait to see Battroid though. For those complaining about the missile pods or extra engines or whatever they are. For me nothing can compare to the ridiculousness of the VF-19s fastpacks Quote
anime52k8 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 How can they add the new missile pods? There is not enough room for that on the wing tips? The main wings are retracted (as we already knew they could do), and new wing extensions slipped over the main wing tips that are longer and have extra engines. And yes, I think they're engine pods. The have flat rear ends that look like nozzles and the tip is concave on the underside, just like the other mid wing engines turned on their side. Also they've got fins on them. This looks ridiculous. Quote
eugimon Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Well, whatever it is, at least it ain't this on the other hand... it's amazing how close this guy came. Edited February 9, 2011 by eugimon Quote
anime52k8 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Well, whatever it is, at least it ain't this Now that's just mean. At least that thing was done by a fan out of love for a show; not an evil corporation trying to make a quick buck off gullible fanboys. Quote
eugimon Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Now that's just mean. At least that thing was done by a fan out of love for a show; not an evil corporation trying to make a quick buck off gullible fanboys. But they have the same design philosophy: take stuff from other designs, toss them in a hat, take them out and tape it together. Quote
Raptor One Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 That Cutlass design isn't too bad. Reminds me of some of my own VF designs Quote
Vifam7 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Ok, this is getting utterly ridiculous.. they added MORE ENGINES. It's like they tacked a tornado pack onto the already tornado-ish design. "Hey, I put some more engines on your engines, so you can go faster while you're going faster!" This is approaching Tim Taylor levels. Next, it's going to be dual wielding plasma rifles, and strapping a pair of reaction missiles to each of the four engine pods. But then we're talking about an animeworld that says strapping a SRBM on the top and bottom of an aircraft is a good idea. VF-11B Booster Quote
valkyriechild Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I wouldn't mind about the design, as long as sheryl and ranka are the pilots, which unfortunately probably will not. Quote
Graham Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 That extra engine or missile pod (whatever it is) definitely features wing-tip extensions which look like they connect to and also partially cover the mid-wing engine nacelles. Note the wingtip extensions are white in that Gerwalk pic and the white part also now covers part of the mid-wing engine nacelles, which are normally all red. Graham Quote
sketchley Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 Looks to me like Super Parts/FAST packs for the YF-29. So... I don't think they're thermonuclear turbine engines per se, but a more "traditional" rocket booster to compensate for the extra mass of the Super Parts themselves. It's unclear if they have built in armaments, but it's nice to see more atmospheric-use Super Parts. Quote
Graham Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Looks to me like Super Parts/FAST packs for the YF-29. So... I don't think they're thermonuclear turbine engines per se, but a more "traditional" rocket booster to compensate for the extra mass of the Super Parts themselves. It's unclear if they have built in armaments, but it's nice to see more atmospheric-use Super Parts. They could just be extra fuel tanks for space use. The bare YF-29 (and the VF-25 for that matter)don't seem to have much space for fuel and with 4 engines on the YF-29, it's gonna be a thirsty bird. Graham Quote
s001 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Anything on that weird/cool looking gunpod??? Quote
Graham Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Anything on that weird/cool looking gunpod??? Not yet. I'm guessing it's an updated/improved version of the VF-27's beam gun pod. Graham Quote
sketchley Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 They could just be extra fuel tanks for space use. The bare YF-29 (and the VF-25 for that matter)don't seem to have much space for fuel and with 4 engines on the YF-29, it's gonna be a thirsty bird. Graham True. If memory serves, the Tornado Pack had optional space-use under-wing fuel pods that also doubled as Itano-Circus missile pods. Quote
Reïvaj Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) I think I can also see some extra stuff on top of the wing gloves, some kind of fuel tanks maybe? Have you noticed them? Edited February 11, 2011 by Reïvaj Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 So the official name of the new VF is YF-29 Durandal...? Man, I love it. To me is more of a VF-25 pimped up with VF-27 components... It also kind of looks like a sword... so the name fits. I liked the colors on the toy version from the first pic a lot... Quote
mikeszekely Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 4 Excaliber (VF-19); Caliburn (VF-19EF); Nothung (VF-19ACTIVE); Durandal (YF-29) Are there named variants of other valkyries that I should be aware of? Until reading this thread, the only VF-19s I knew of were the A, F, S, P, and Fire Valkyrie. Quote
anime52k8 Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Are there named variants of other valkyries that I should be aware of? Until reading this thread, the only VF-19s I knew of were the A, F, S, P, and Fire Valkyrie. Apparently there are a bunch of new VF-19 variants now thanks to the Master file book. You should ask Sketchley about it, since he's actually working on translating the book. Quote
biggooftoybox Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Ahh ok so those are mid-wing engine nacelles and not just missile pods. Now i finally see. Actually i never noticed on my VF-27 that they had 4 engines. guess i don't look at it enough. Usually i by the DX, open it once and then shelve it. Quote
Graham Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Yes, the mid-wing nacelles are engines that also have built-in twin micro-missile launchers. Graham Quote
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