sketchley Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) There's a decent bit about it in one of the technology sheets in Macross Chronicle, ... ... Either way, fold travel is fast... Basically yes. The only thing I think that needs to be added is the amount of energy needed to perform the fold. The short answer is that it's not clear, but implications are that the farther you want to travel, the more energy is required; and most every vehicle does not have the ability to generate large amounts of energy on a sustained basis. What is the average distance of a fold? Beyond the ones S.K. mentioned + energy generation limitations, there is only one other factor: maps or the lack thereof. One can't really fold into or through areas of unexplored space without great risk. Bear ye in mind, that's 18-24 hours of objective time in real space... Basically no. "The difference of the subjectivity [one's opinion] and objectivity of time is only a little" Or, in clearer English: there's only a small difference between the objective and subjective passage of time. Also: "Super Fold Booster... (With it) there is no difference in the subjectivity and objectivity of time (spent in fold), and it is said that the travel time in the area of space that had been put to use (by mankind) was reduced to a tenth." Or, in clearer English: there's no difference in the objective and subjective passage of time, and folds are a couple orders of magnitude faster. Both quotes from Technology: Overtechnology 04b http://www.macrossroleplay.org/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg35077#msg35077 (wish I had more of it posted...) Edited October 7, 2011 by sketchley Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 [...] there is only one other factor: maps or the lack thereof. One can't really fold into or through areas of unexplored space without great risk. Yep... which is, in part, why the emigration fleets send advance forces ahead of the main body of the fleet to scout things out... IIRC, this is what the mass-produced Macross-class ships were originally used for. "The difference of the subjectivity [one's opinion] and objectivity of time is only a little" Or, in clearer English: there's only a small difference between the objective and subjective passage of time. Yes, the Macross Chronicle technology sheet says as much... but vague qualitative measurements like "only a little" and "small" are not terribly helpful if you're trying to approximate how fast you're really going when you travel by space fold. (Technically, you wouldn't be moving at all, but you get my meaning.) The meaning of things like "only a little" and "small" vary from person to person, which is why I prefer to err on the side of caution and use the few specific, quantitative measurements from the series dialogue. I tried to favor both Misa's and Luca's numbers, but Luca's are skewed somewhat by the fold faults/dislocations that turn what Leon says would be an almost instantaneous trip into a day-long transit. Quote
VF-15 Banshee Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Did the VF-4 have any FAST Packs available for it? Quote
Talos Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Did the VF-4 have any FAST Packs available for it? Yes and no. In the DYRL/Macross II 'verse, the VF-4 Siren has a set of FAST packs that are similar to the VF-1s. There aren't any canon designs for the main timeline's VF-4 Lightning III, though sketchley did a nice interpretation of one. Quote
sketchley Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Yes and no. In the DYRL/Macross II 'verse, the VF-4 Siren has a set of FAST packs that are similar to the VF-1s. There aren't any canon designs for the main timeline's VF-4 Lightning III, though sketchley did a nice interpretation of one. The status of VF-4 Super Parts as part of the Official Setting of the Studio Nue timelineare is also unclear. Simply put: There are VF-4 FAST Packs for the Macross II version. But it must be kept in mind that this version of the VF-4 also has a totally different transformation mechanism, and subsequently different GERWALK and battroid modes. There are VF-4 Super Parts for the Studio Nue timeline penned by Kawamori Shouji, but there official status is unconfirmed. At best they are indirectly alluded to in Macross Chronicle. There is also a streamlined, armless and unable to transform to battroid VF-4 variant in the Studio Nue official setting. Images of the streamlined version are available in Macross the Ride, as well as in the same picture with the large booster super parts here: http://www.macrossroleplay.org/Sketchley/Statistics/VF-4/VF-4.html#OPTIONAL_SYSTEMS Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 There are VF-4 FAST Packs for the Macross II version. But it must be kept in mind that this version of the VF-4 also has a totally different transformation mechanism, and subsequently different GERWALK and battroid modes. Actually, there are both Super Packs and Strike Packs for the DYRL/II-verse's VF-4 Siren... the former being a fairly traditional set of Super Packs that rest between the engine nacelles in fighter mode, and the latter being a similarly mounted set of packs which are different from the conventional "Strike" setup in that they contain funnels rather than a beam cannon. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Funnels in the Gundam sense? Well, yes and no... they're called funnels and they largely work like Gundam's funnels, but they're not controlled via psycommu. The funnels used on the Macross II continuity's VF-4 Siren are controlled by the fighter's fire-control system, kind of like the GN Fangs in Gundam 00. Essentially, they're the ancestors of the Valkyrie II's auto-attacker bits from the Macross II OVA. (There are actually lots of Gundam references buried in Macross II... probably something to do with the mechanical designers having worked on Zeta Gundam and Char's Counterattack) Quote
Shaorin Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) has anyone finally come up with the actual english pronuciation of "Macross"? ie: Mac Ross, muh Cross, May cross, Robote...oops! just listen to the original Japanese SDFM opening theme; "MAW-KUU-LOSS!! MAW-KUU-LOSS!!" then Romanize it for for native english speakers; "MAWCK-CROSS" and there you pretty much have it. myself, i personally prefer; "MACK-CROSS" as that is how i've grown up with it always hearing it pronounced that way in english language dubs... Edited October 9, 2011 by Shaorin Quote
Gubaba Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 just listen to the original Japanese SDFM opening theme; "MAW-KUU-LOSS!! MAW-KUU-LOSS!!" then Romanize it for for native english speakers; "MAWCK-CROSS" and there you pretty much have it. myself, i personally prefer; "MACK-CROSS" as that is how i've grown up with it always hearing it pronounced that way in english language dubs... Look...14 Japanese productions and 4 English productions call it "MAC-ross." ONE English production calls it "Muh-CROSS." It doesn't take a genius to figure out who's right... Quote
hulagu Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Look...14 Japanese productions and 4 English productions call it "MAC-ross." ONE English production calls it "Muh-CROSS." It doesn't take a genius to figure out who's right... By the way does Macross actually stand for anything in-series? I always assumed it's a descriptive acronymn "Macro Space Ship" from the use of the word in the OP. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 It's just a cool name. I heard some producer wanted it to be called Macbeth (MAKUBESU) so they changed one character to make it Macross (MAKUROSU) Quote
Renato Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) It's just a cool name. I heard some producer wanted it to be called Macbeth (MAKUBESU) so they changed one character to make it Macross (MAKUROSU) Yeah, the original name was the Megaroad, but when it was pitched to Big West, the head of BW, Yoshimasa Ohnishi, wanted it to be changed to "Macbeth". Edit-- Not "Muck-beth", BTW. Edited October 10, 2011 by Renato Quote
VF5SS Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Yeah even Peppy got Macbeth right so I'm trying to recall a quote from Ishiguro or Mikimoto where they said Misa was meant to be an idealized Japanese beauty. I think maybe it was in the Animeigo interview. As if all the images of her in a kimono didn't tell us that :3 Quote
rankasbf Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I saw this in some pics from New York Comic Con, apparently it was on display at the Bandai booth?? Does anyone know what Valkyrie this is? Was it ever in any of the anime? Thanks in advance! Quote
Gubaba Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 It's what it says it is...the Gundam Wing, given Macross symbols. Quote
MacrossCN Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I saw this in some pics from New York Comic Con, apparently it was on display at the Bandai booth?? Does anyone know what Valkyrie this is? Was it ever in any of the anime? Thanks in advance! AHA~~~ Gundamacross~~~ Quote
Talos Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I saw this in some pics from New York Comic Con, apparently it was on display at the Bandai booth?? Does anyone know what Valkyrie this is? Was it ever in any of the anime? Thanks in advance! Gubaba's dead on there. Specifically, it's Katoki Hajime's redesign of the XXXG-01W Wing Gundam from Gundam Wing. This looks to be the new Master Grade model kit of it that came out this past spring. Quote
Lynk Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) This is gonna be a strange one... Okay, so I've named my PC "MACROSS"... and have the whole Macross theme with it. I have several drives on my PC... the main OS drive is called "GUNSIGHT ONE" (went for the TV series callsign instead of "Delta One" from DYRL cause it sounds cooler), the drive that has all of my video games is called "PROMETHEUS", then the main documents drive is called "DAEDALUS" and finally my backup/downloads/torrents drive is "MACROSS CITY"... finally I name by external drives and usb flash drives "ARMD-#" running from 1-6 so far, 1 being the biggest and 6 being the smallest... Anyway, with that long explanation out of the way (haha), I have another HDD I'm not actually using at the moment but thought I'd shove into my PC since I have room for it..... but I don't know what to call it. Any ideas? Oh and here's a pic of my PC as a bonus/show off Edited October 21, 2011 by Lynk Quote
Raptor One Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Did the city that was built inside of the SDF-1 have a name? Quote
Gubaba Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Did the city that was built inside of the SDF-1 have a name? No. Quote
Xx-SKULL-ONE-xX Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Macross city maybe? Booby Duck? Quote
Gubaba Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Macross city maybe? Booby Duck? Nope, it's always just called "the city aboard the Macross." Quote
Lynk Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 "Macross City" was given to the name of the city that sprung up around the Macross after it landed in the lake after Earth was ravaged by the Zentradi attack... and I'm already using that one Quote
Cpt_Gloval Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Could name it after the VF squadrons. Skull and whatnot. I'm sure someone has a list of the squad names used throughout the series. Quote
Gubaba Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Could name it after the VF squadrons. Skull and whatnot. I'm sure someone has a list of the squad names used throughout the series. Lessee... Skull, WIndsor, Mountain, Vermillion, Purple, Sepia, Cerulean, Rose...I'm sure there were a couple of others... Quote
Lynk Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 I think BOOBY DUCK is probably a good one to use... Quote
SkullLeaderVF-X Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 I think BOOBY DUCK is probably a good one to use... Oh man. I thought you guys said something totally different. Man, was I way off. Quote
Sir Galahad® Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) How does the VF-25 propel forward in gerwalk mode without the super or armor packs? consider the VF-1 Valkyrie or the YF-19 Here is the VF-25 (image a bit big though) Edited October 25, 2011 by Sir Galahad® Quote
anime52k8 Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 there are two sets of three thrusters on the underside of the backpack part. Their not on that toy because it's 1/100 scale, meaning it's small and it's a small part. Quote
sketchley Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 How does the VF-25 propel forward in gerwalk mode without the super or armor packs? In addition to the rear rockets anime52k8 posted about, it can also use the ankle thrust reversers and other vernier rockets when "skating", and the feet/engine nozzles when in flight. Quote
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