VF5SS Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 It's OK, you weren't alone... You don't have to be embarrassed by Star Pro level posts. Sometimes you gotta deal with a tight schedule and Ichiro Itano being in the hospital. Quote
Primus1X Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Any info on the "Brown Squadron" and its leader that appear in episode 2, I read that they appeared in the game "Skull Leader"? I am assuming the Valkyrie in the foreground is a VF-1S. Quote
Mr March Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 The VF-1 Valkyrie in the foreground may not necessarily be an "S" type variant. Remember, they are "Kakizaki type" and "Max type" VF-1A's, which are almost entirely white on the top side of the fighter mode. Don't have any information about brown squadron. HD screen captures don't show much, but seem to support the assumption that they are all "A" variants of the VF-1. Pics attached. Quote
Scream Man Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 The series really went downhill once they made the spaceship turn into a robot. You mean Star Wars? It sure did... Quote
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 did you say star wars? I love that guy's transformers reviews. I generally hate transformers toys, since they often require a lot of imagination to accept (Masterpiece toys are the exception since they actually try to make a toy that looks right). Quote
HannouHeiki Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 JBO, Guld bought lunch THIRTEEN times. You should've known by now. Quote
JB0 Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 JBO, Guld bought lunch THIRTEEN times. You should've known by now. Doh! Yeah, I dunno where I got 17 from. Quote
Scream Man Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I love that guy's transformers reviews. I generally hate transformers toys, since they often require a lot of imagination to accept (Masterpiece toys are the exception since they actually try to make a toy that looks right). Transformers aren't designed to be a vehicle that has a robot mode though. They're robots who can assume a vehicle like form. Its a different philosophy to a Valk or something similar. Quote
JB0 Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Transformers aren't designed to be a vehicle that has a robot mode though. They're robots who can assume a vehicle like form. Its a different philosophy to a Valk or something similar.They're robots in disguise. I mean it says so in the song. One should therefore expect a decent vehicle mode, but... often it doesn't show up. Quote
GMK Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 The VF-1 Valkyrie in the foreground may not necessarily be an "S" type variant. Remember, they are "Kakizaki type" and "Max type" VF-1A's, which are almost entirely white on the top side of the fighter mode. Don't have any information about brown squadron. HD screen captures don't show much, but seem to support the assumption that they are all "A" variants of the VF-1. Pics attached. There's a shot in that episode of Roy in his VF-1S flying with CF VF-1A. The VF-1A seem to have a black skull & crossbones on the tail, but I've never seen a clear shot. Anyone help? Quote
Mr March Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Sadly I'm not able to make out what it is, so I can't tell if it's a Skull and Crossbones emblem or something else. Quote
Bolt Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Looks like a red comet..maybe Char is doing a cameo.. Quote
GMK Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks Mr March - is there another shot from the front quarter too? (I may be mis-remembering that one). Quote
Mr March Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 I rewatched the whole episode looking for any other shots, because I wasn't sure if the screen shot I provided was the one you were talking about. No other VF-1A CF shots showing any skull markings (or markings of any kind) were seen in the episode. Quote
GMK Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks for re-watching. I'm going to try & find the BD next time I visit Japan. Quote
Mr March Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 No problem. I needed a short break from coloring (just finished up the newly revised art for the Gol Boddole Zer Class Mobile Fortress...so purty ) so a little Macross was fun. I really got into the series again. Might be time for an entire rewatch. It's been a few years The blu-rays are awesome. It's definitely the best SDF Macross can ever look. Quote
Primus1X Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Is there an official term for what transforming mecha are called, not just the Variable Fighters but Variable Glaug and the König Monster (Variable Bomber). I've seen "Variable Armor", "Variable Mecha" and "Variable Vehicle" used. If not what would be the best term? Quote
Mr March Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 "Variable" (Fighter/Attacker/Bomber/Vehicle/Glaug) is the only consistent designation I've read for transformable vehicles as written in the trivia. They do use the term "transform/tranforming" in the official literature, but I don't think in any official capacity as a designated technology, only to describe the process of converting form one mode to another. Quote
sketchley Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Is there an official term for what transforming mecha are called, not just the Variable Fighters but Variable Glaug and the König Monster (Variable Bomber). I've seen "Variable Armor", "Variable Mecha" and "Variable Vehicle" used. If not what would be the best term? Variable Vehicle is the cover-all/catch-all term. Everything else (sans Variable Mecha) is a specialized variation. What anime fans term "mecha" is defined in-universe as "Mobile Weapon" for some powers (i.e.: the Zentraadi), "Valkyrie" (for the Variable Vehicles), or Destroid. Quote
Zinjo Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Sadly I'm not able to make out what it is, so I can't tell if it's a Skull and Crossbones emblem or something else. It suspiciously resembles to SMS Skull team logo to me... What episode and time stamp are we looking at? I have the BD's so I can look to see if there is anything better. Edited September 18, 2015 by Zinjo Quote
Primus1X Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Variable Vehicle is the cover-all/catch-all term. Everything else (sans Variable Mecha) is a specialized variation. What anime fans term "mecha" is defined in-universe as "Mobile Weapon" for some powers (i.e.: the Zentraadi), "Valkyrie" (for the Variable Vehicles), or Destroid. I use "Variable Vehicle" most of the time. But where does the Neo Glaug fit in? It can transform, but I am having trouble deciding if it fits into the category of vehicle since it does not have a pilot. "Variable Mecha" is uncommon and I don't want to invent yet another fan term like "Variable Craft", so I am wondering if there has ever been term to describe all transforming mecha mentioned in dialog, if not I'll settle on "Variable Vehicle". Edited September 18, 2015 by Primus1X Quote
Mr March Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Zinjwitter I'm using 720p because it saves space, so maybe the 1080 has finer detail. It's Episode 2, but sadly I don't have a time stamp anymore. It's during the sequence when Roy is returning from battle, so it's at least a third of the way into the episode. Primus1X Just go with Variable Vehicle. I think you're putting more thought into it than the original writers, so there's no need to worry about getting the name right because they weren't worried I think you'll find that many of the "designations" they use in the official Macross trivia are specifically vague because they are needed to describe a large number of different vehicles. Often terms like "Variable Vehicle" or "Mobile Weapon" are used to describe any vehicle that isn't easily categorized with a conventional designation. When terms like "Fighter", "Tank", "Shuttle" and the like don't accurately describe what the vehicle is, they use "Variable Whatever" or "Mobile Weapon" to describe it. If you want to be specific, the next update to my website has a list of the variable types I've managed to note. I'll post it here for your reference: Variable Armor Variable Attacker Variable Attack Craft Variable Bomber Variable Device Variable Electronics Warfare Craft Variable Fighter-Developmental Variable Glaug Variable Patroid Variable Trainer Edited September 18, 2015 by Mr March Quote
VF5SS Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 "Variable Vehicle" seems like a borrowed term from Dorvack, which Takatoku also sponsored... Quote
JB0 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Isn't the term "veritech"? *runs away swiftly* Quote
TMBounty_Hunter Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Does Wave still make the 1/100 VF-1S Roy Fokker battroid kit? Seems to be out of stock everywhere. Did they just settle on making people buy the Super Battroid kit instead? Quote
Valkyrie Driver Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 Does Wave still make the 1/100 VF-1S Roy Fokker battroid kit? Seems to be out of stock everywhere. Did they just settle on making people buy the Super Battroid kit instead? I think you meant to put this in the toy newbie and FAQ thread. Quote
wmkjr Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Does Wave still make the 1/100 VF-1S Roy Fokker battroid kit? Seems to be out of stock everywhere. Did they just settle on making people buy the Super Battroid kit instead? This one? Quote
TMBounty_Hunter Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Yeah, I've seen that listing but another mandarake order is probably not healthy for me wallet. I've been contemplating getting the 1/100 VF-1S Fokker battroid to go with the already built VF-0S one, so that's why I went looking through the usual places first and found it weird that it's listed as discontinued or long sold out. It's a shame if that's really Wave's way of doing things. Quote
Zinjo Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Isn't the term "veritech"? *runs away swiftly* Pulls sniper rifle out of case, takes careful aim.... Quote
oshanmacross Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 What episode of macross frontier does the Alto vs. Brera dogfight occur in? Thanks Quote
Tochiro Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Do you mean the one at the end of the Wings of Farewell? PS: it might be better to post questions like this in the questions thread, as opposed to starting an entirely new one f^_^ Quote
oshanmacross Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Uggh, Yeah call me a poseur! I purchased the import blu-ray box of macross frontier but never got farther than the opening concert. Could anyone provide a time stamp? Quote
Gubaba Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Nope. You have to watch the movie. I saw it in the cinema three times. Quote
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