Worse Macross Moments

[Gubaba]

Actually it was more in response to the "basera sucks because his robot has a mouth and he sings rock songs in the middle of battles instead of blowing people up".

Seriously though, the one thing that did bug me about 7 was how the fire Valkyrie had a gunpod that shot speakers. I mean there's a definite logic to it, but I feel like it would be way cooler and make more sense in context to have the fire Valk carry a robot sized guitar instead of a gunpod.

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[Renato]

I have an official image somewhere of a Fire Valkyrie playing a giant guitar which is shaped just like the cockpit guitar. It was used as an image for a trading card and is not a preparatory sketch like the image above.

[Seto Kaiba]

I have an official image somewhere of a Fire Valkyrie playing a giant guitar which is shaped just like the cockpit guitar. It was used as an image for a trading card and is not a preparatory sketch like the image above.

There's also concept art of what appears to be an early version of Basara's Fire Valkyrie modeled on the VF-11 with a guitar on the contents pages of Kawamori's Macross Design Works book...

[frothymug]

I'm confused. Seto, did you miss Gubaba's posting of said picture, or did he go back and magically put it on his post without flagging an edit on that post?

[Seto Kaiba]

I'm confused. Seto, did you miss Gubaba's posting of said picture, or did he go back and magically put it on his post without flagging an edit on that post?

One or the other... I don't recall having seen that in his post at the time I posted. It might've been blocked by my IP range filter if it was running when I made that post. Oh well...

[Gubaba]

I'm confused. Seto, did you miss Gubaba's posting of said picture, or did he go back and magically put it on his post without flagging an edit on that post?

I didn't edit my post...unfortunately, I can't do magic things.

[Vepariga]

probably milia and max knife fight.

[Sir Galahad®]

Uhhh... Geppernich Singing? Hehehe... I never knew he knew the lyrics to Basara's Try Again

[GU-11]

probably milia and max knife fight.

QFT. The fact that I watched the scene in Robotech as a child, in all its 1980's American voice-acting glory, makes it all the more traumatizing.

[Dangard Ace]

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YARGH!!! My eyes!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't edit my post...unfortunately, I can't do magic things.

Thank god I can!!! DELETE!

[Lobizon]

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Hey! don't forget this...

[TehPW]

Hey! don't forget this...

wow, how Neon Genesis Evangelian...

[dreamweaver13]

Sentinels.

yeah, it's Robotech, but the only reason I watched the damn thing was because at that time I watched anything that had ANYTHING to do with Macross. Ugh. And every now and then, while watching macross, i would have involuntary flashes of minmei singing with an android for a wedding... Kill me, please.

But strictly within macross?

Hmm... now I find the knife fight terrible, but watching it as a kid, and seeing max fight with his crush who also happens to be a zentraedi ace... hell, what animation problems??

So I guess my real worse macross moment would be Pedro, for being annoying and for the biggest c**kblock in history.

[nexxstrait]

"Macross Frontier Music Clip collection Nyankuri" hands down. One of the trashiest Macross productions of all time. The CG girls inserts were particularly ugly and out of place.

[Gubaba]

"Macross Frontier Music Clip collection Nyankuri" hands down. One of the trashiest Macross productions of all time. The CG girls inserts were particularly ugly and out of place.

Trashy? I thought it was fun. And some of it was quite lovely.

[SkullLeaderVF-X]

One of my worst Macross moments was when Carl Macek decided to use Macross to create RT....Also in the Macross F Movie where Alto thinks Sheryl is a spy. And any scene with Lynn Kaifun, oh and Fire Bomber America.

[Zor Primus]

Nine posts in this thread and no one's mentioned the knife fight...?

Y'all are gettin' soft.

That entire episode actually...but a close second, anytime Basara was on screen in M7

[SchizophrenicMC]

Hikaru interfering in a military demonstration flight and receiving absolutely no reprimand for it. That always confused me.

[eugimon]

Hikaru interfering in a military demonstration flight and receiving absolutely no reprimand for it. That always confused me.

maybe if the world didn't get blown up immediately following that he would have gotten in trouble eventually.

[regult]

M&M knife fight was (together with the Exedol "my boyfriend is a pilot" number) one of the most awesome SDFM moments.

Plus was mostly ok in my memory, M7...a long series I learned to like in a particular way, Zero...hmmm...

I'll have to say probably Frontier was the series with the most "OH C'mon!" moments.

[SchizophrenicMC]

maybe if the world didn't get blown up immediately following that he would have gotten in trouble eventually.

Valid point, but no one even said anything.

[peter]

Worst Macross Moment - every moment a guy named Basara was in......and the entire TV show he was associated with.

[Dio]

Valid point, but no one even said anything.

Fokker let him jump into the pilot seat of their latest top-secret transforming fighter jet to show him what a real plane would feel like. Clearances shmearances. Fortune favors the bold.

Off-topic: Woohoo! Promotion from armour waxer to heatshield scrubber!

Edited December 25, 2010 by Dio

[SchizophrenicMC]

Fokker let him jump into the pilot seat of their latest top-secret transforming fighter jet to show him what a real plane would feel like. Clearances shmearances. Fortune favors the bold.

Off-topic: Woohoo! Promotion from armour waxer to heatshield scrubber!

Curse you, plot magic! Curse your very soul!

[Vifam7]

Worst Macross moment for me was when I purchased and watched FHE's Clash of the Bionoids VHS tape. About 20 years ago.

[Kyp Durron]

Worst Macross Moment - every moment a guy named Basara was in......and the entire TV show he was associated with.

This. I'd rather watch MF's worst episodes over and over again than just one episode of Macross 7.

-Kyp

[Radd]

This thread is inspired by the fact that to this day, I can't help but frown whenever I think of the scene in Macross Frontier where Alto is talking to Sheryl about the upcoming battle with the (supposedly) Ranka-controlled Vajra, and he says that if it comes to it "I'll kill Ranka!"

To me, that line was so over-the-top and juvenille - even for Alto. I mean, Alto knows Ranka very well as a thoughtful girl. So she suddenly decides to defend Ai-kun and go run off with her brother - and not once does Alto ask "why?" He just hates the Vajra so much and is so blinded by blood lust, that even when his closest girlfriend - in tears and with a broken heart - makes the choice to go off with Brera and Ai-Kun...he doesn't even wonder for a moment why?

I dunno...I think that just from the standpoint of plot - it would have been better to have the conversation with Sheryl go something like:

"How could Ranka do this? I don't understand..."

"Understanding eachother is something that is difficult"

Or something more complex - anything but "I will kill Ranka!"

To this day, it's the one part of Macross that I would honestly love to retcon, cut, liquidate.

What's YOUR worse Macross moment?

Pete

I think you're oversimplifying what was going on here.

Alto wasn't just, "Bwah, I'll kill her!" He honestly thought Ranka had betrayed humanity to the Vajra. He didn't have all the facts in addition to his own hurt emotions.

He wasn't stating he'd kill Ranka because she'd left him for giant insects and "that other guy". He was stating he would kill her if he had to, for the sake of humanity. And it was tearing him up inside.

And it wasn't just Alto! It wasn't just Alto, Luca and the entire Frontier fleet! It wasn't just characters in the show, remember? Remember how fans, even fans here on this very board, somehow missed the increasingly obvious? That the Vajra weren't the bad guys?

Personally, I was floored back then, when the show wrapped up and people were lamenting how Ranka wasn't getting strung up for betraying humanity. Even after the credits rolled, so many people didn't actually understand what had happened. And the fans, real people, had even less of an excuse than Alto. Alto only had the information he had personally witnessed. We got to see multiple angles coming together over the course of the series, gradually revealing the larger picture in a way the characters in the show did not have the luxury of witnessing.

[Zinjo]

Basara surviving in Mac 7...

[anime52k8]

Another thing that really bothers me is that amongst the considerable number of porn doujins Macross Frontier has generated, I've yet to see a single good Grace tentical rape doujin. what the hell? The show itself totally sets up for that to happen but nobodies done anything with it yet.

[SchizophrenicMC]

Another thing that really bothers me is that amongst the considerable number of porn doujins Macross Frontier has generated, I've yet to see a single good Grace tentical rape doujin. what the hell? The show itself totally sets up for that to happen but nobodies done anything with it yet.

I could shop some of Fiona from Zoids to have Grace's face, if it pleases you.

[Dynaman]

Fokker let him jump into the pilot seat of their latest top-secret transforming fighter jet to show him what a real plane would feel like. Clearances shmearances. Fortune favors the bold.

Before 9-11 you would be surprised how often that kind of thing happened. Actually flying the thing would be a no no, but he didn't take off till Misa mistakenly orderd him to.

As for the original post, Busting up a flight demonstation pales to insignificance when the entire Earth is under attack from Aliens... (And Macross was never meant to be totally serious)

[SchizophrenicMC]

As for the original post, Busting up a flight demonstation pales to insignificance when the entire Earth is under attack from Aliens... (And Macross was never meant to be totally serious)

Wasn't it?

[Dynaman]

Wasn't it?

You'd be surprised by the way we sometimes go overboard disecting it...

[Agent ONE]

Using a scarf to create a seal around the helmet to go out and get the tuna. (ep 4 of SDFM)

When Max wears a dress (most episodes of Macross7)

Every single scene with Basara (Macross 7)

[mrhillz]

The english singing in the dub at the end of Macross 2 , that has to be on the list.