David Hingtgen Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 I call Bull$hit. FlightGobal is about as reputable/informative as websites come--their blogs are better (and often more factual) than many paper magazine articles. Quote
Shaorin Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) I call Bull$hit. i'm quite certain that you do. regardless, TG is an excellent "Stupid 80's Movie" with several things going for it, chief among them, getting to see all of those late, great F-14's strutting their stuff... Edited April 10, 2012 by Shaorin Quote
Chronocidal Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 FlightGobal is about as reputable/informative as websites come--their blogs are better (and often more factual) than many paper magazine articles. I think the BS here isn't the report.. it's more that there is no way you could make a serious movie about testing that plane. First off, we're through with the JSF competition phase and the X-32 lost already, so there's no potential plot there. Second, there's nothing for a pilot to prove himself against as a test pilot, except the plane itself, or possibly the beauracracy behind it, and either way, that will be opening up a freaking huge can of worms. Whether you pit the pilot against the plane itself, the corporation, or even the military itself, I don't see how this movie can become anything other than a massive hollywood smear campaign against the entire JSF program. It's free publicity sure, but I don't see how any potential plot they can come up with could possibly help the JSF program right now. Even if it does put things in a good light.. someone's going to get burned by this. I'm not betting on Lockheed Martin, since they seem like they might milk it for publicity, but the plane already has problems. We don't need hollywood sticking their fingers in this mess trying to make a buck, and if they pursue any kind of plot where the plane or military is the problem, it's going to have the exact opposite effect the original movie had on military recruitment. Quote
peter Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) i'm quite certain that you do. regardless, TG is an excellent "Stupid 80's Movie" with several things going for it, chief among them, getting to see all of those late, great F-14's strutting their stuff... Don't get me wrong, I can accept that Flightglobal is a reputable source, I just can't over how epically stupid the idea is of making a movie that wraps around testing pilotting the F35, which IMO is a collossally ugly plane. I call bull$hit because my mind just can't accept the fact that such a stupid idea could exist and be made into a movie.I guess I must be getting really old because I just can't let go of the ol' Tomcat, one of the greatest fighter plane designs of all time, despite it being so outdated. Edited April 11, 2012 by peter Quote
505thAirborne Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Can't see why they (The writers, producers, monkey with the tin cap) wouldn't set it in a 2003 or late 90's time frame, maybe CG I some Tomcats along with Super Hornets heading off to kick some bad guy ass, slap a hot girl in there somewhere, big battle at the end, Good guys win and some questionable hugs at the end, works for me. Quote
Shadow Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Should have done it in the 90's, with a Super Tomcat. VERY easy to explain to the audience Tim Taylor style---"it's Maverick's old plane, but with 40% MORE POWER" Got to agree with this. The F-14D or even the B would have been great to see and preferable to anything in current use. Rent some Mirage F1s as the adversary aircraft, if that was even possible, and you might have had something back then worthy being a sequel. Quote
Mommar Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 I don't have a problem with the way the F-35 looks. Then again I don't intend to see anything called "Top Gun 2" anyway so it doesn't matter. Quote
Keith Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Should we start taking bet's on whether or not they'll rip off Plus now or later? Quote
Phyrox Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 What I don't get is how a movie about testing F-35s is called "Top Gun." Should be called Patuxent Summer or something. Anyway, now that Top Gun is in Yuma or wherever, wouldn't want to see a movie centered there anyway. Quote
myk Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Should we start taking bet's on whether or not they'll rip off Plus now or later? What I don't get is how a movie about testing F-35s is called "Top Gun." Seems to me that the rip off of 'Plus is well under way. Someone must've remembered the description of the 'Plus movie on the back of the box, where they described 'Plus as the "Top Gun" of anime, or something like that... Quote
Einherjar Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 ...Dangah Zone... No, seriously, what's left for Maverick to do since fighting his inner demons all those years ago? A mid-life crisis like his actor? Quote
Chronocidal Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 That's another thing that makes me wonder.. Sure, they can call it "Top Gun II".. but unless this movie is set 5-10 years from now, it will have nothing to do with NSAWC. Especially if the line about him being a Lockheed Martin test pilot is true, in which case, there will be nothing combat related at all, unless you count dropping test ammo on dummy targets, and maybe firing a live missile or two. Most of the current testing I'm aware of is going on around Ft. Worth, Pax River, and Edwards AFB, and they're barely even testing the C variant yet, so are they going to have Mav change up from Navy to Air Force, or just ditch the military entirely for a civilian position? I mean, sure it can happen.. but not if they want any combat of any type to even occur in the movie, in which case, I don't see the point. Unless he steals a plane to pull off some crazy rescue mission or whatnot.. ... Wait. Oh, that would be just too easy. Did they actually confirm his father was killed, or could they potentially bring him back as a POW? I would laugh so hard if they try that. I mean.. JAG already built off of Top Gun a good number of ways (what with the shot down father angle, dead RIO, etc), and it would be just like hollywood to re-steal the plot back from JAG and have him discover his father is actually still a prisoner. I'm putting this out there again, we really need a facepalm smiley. Quote
Macross_Fanboy Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Replace all the good music with Dub Step and a bunch of other crap, throw in F/A-18Fs shooting down Su-35BMs with AIM-9Xs. Quote
derex3592 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Can we have FIRE BOMBAHHH!!! in the soundtrack??? Pleeeeaaaase???? Quote
Keith Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Ok, I'll revise the gamble then, and suggest we implement a poll into this thread. Will Top Gun Be: -Iron Eagle 4 5 or -Stealth II (read Macross Plus with all the awesome taken out) ??? Also, why do I suddenly have the urge to buy Iron Eagle & Stealth on bluray. Someone talk some sense into me! Perhaps that's their evil plan then.... Edited April 12, 2012 by Keith Quote
areaseven Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Ok, I'll revise the gamble then, and suggest we implement a poll into this thread.Will Top Gun Be:-Iron Eagle 4 You mean this? or-Stealth II (read Macross Plus with all the awesome taken out)???Also, why do I suddenly have the urge to buy Iron Eagle & Stealth on bluray. Someone talk some sense into me!Perhaps that's their evil plan then.... At least Iron Eagle has awesome music. What does Stealth have that's worth owning? Edited December 11, 2014 by areaseven Quote
Keith Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 You mean this? Damn, guess we're up to Iron Eagle 5 then!. At least Iron Eagle has awesome music. What does Stealth have that's worth owning? Jessica Biel? Quote
Warmaker Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 Jessica Biel? Ahh, Jessica Biel. I was with VMFAT-101 at the time, and we were on a carrier for a CQ detachment, but on this specific occasion, they were filming portions of Stealth on the ship. She was... sweet. The prop for the jet itself was huge. It made a Tomcat look small, which is an amazing feat in itself. We walked upright underneath the prop's fuselage. Quote
areaseven Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Tony Scott, Director of Top Gun, Dies in an Apparent Suicide Say what you will about Top Gun, but you have to admit that he did a great job directing it. R.I.P. Tony Scott. Quote
UN Spacy Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 He had inoperable brain cancer. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/top-gun-director-tony-scott-inoprable-brain-cancer/story?id=17039434#.UDKDaaNXnYj Quote
Zor Primus Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Top Gun 2: The Search for Scott....too soon? Quote
Duke Togo Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Top Gun 2: The Search for Scott....too soon? Go f#ck yourself. Does that answer your question? Edited August 21, 2012 by Duke Togo Quote
EXO Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 http://www.deadline....e-brain-cancer/ Did NOT have brain cancer. Quote
Uxi Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 No, seriously, what's left for Maverick to do since fighting his inner demons all those years ago? A mid-life crisis like his actor? Most likely putting him in the Viper/Tom Skerritt role facing a cocky young pilot with his own demons. Probably a chic given hollywood's MO these days. But yeah probably not, in light of recent events. Quote
areaseven Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) Paramount must really need the money... Edited December 11, 2014 by areaseven Quote
505thAirborne Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 The Epic Volleyball scene in 3-D... I am so there!!!! Quote
Shaorin Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 I guess I must be getting really old because I just can't let go of the ol' Tomcat, one of the greatest fighter plane designs of all time, despite it being so outdated. hey, don't sweat it; neither can i. it's a personal insult of high magnitude that the 'ol F-14 has been fully outmoded by the F-18 and the gawdawful (IMO) F-22... Quote
peter Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Right?? How is this not the coolest aircraft the world has ever seen (that and the VF-1 of course): Quote
Einherjar Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Paramount must really need the money... I blame Archer. Quote
TehPW Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) hey, don't sweat it; neither can i. it's a personal insult of high magnitude that the 'ol F-14 has been fully outmoded by the F-18 and the gawdawful (IMO) F-22... do you mean the plane itself out or the amount of work required to maintain it (let alone all the Pecular Support Equipment required to support it. i only met the AWG-9 Radar coolant Test Stand once. it was a one-time date for me...)?Seriously, a lot of the reason my rating lost people is partially due to the amount of PSE that the A-6, A-7, S-3B and the F-14 required to keep those cold war legacy planes flying. Once those items stopped being used, the I&R pool of a typical AIMD SE division (now, FRC) dropped like in half. im talking thousands of IMRL items. though im not sure the exact details but i can imagine a lot of SE for the F-14 met the business ends of blow torches and crushers, just like the fate of the F-14 fleet... BTW, Peter... do you have any pics of the VX-9's Black Bunny (or what became of the Black Bunny?). i GOT TO TOUCH THE BLACK BUNNY (at least before it was tranfered back to the east coast around the time of final decom of Fleet Tomcats... http://www.f-14association.com/display-164604.htm derp. seen her at Oceana (though it didnt jive to me at the time that it was Vandy-1. i memorized SE serial Numbers, not AC Bu Numbers) Edited January 26, 2013 by TehPW Quote
peter Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 do you mean the plane itself out or the amount of work required to maintain it (let alone all the Pecular Support Equipment required to support it. i only met the AWG-9 Radar coolant Test Stand once. it was a one-time date for me...)? Seriously, a lot of the reason my rating lost people is partially due to the amount of PSE that the A-6, A-7, S-3B and the F-14 required to keep those cold war legacy planes flying. Once those items stopped being used, the I&R pool of a typical AIMD SE division (now, FRC) dropped like in half. im talking thousands of IMRL items. though im not sure the exact details but i can imagine a lot of SE for the F-14 met the business ends of blow torches and crushers, just like the fate of the F-14 fleet... BTW, Peter... do you have any pics of the VX-9's Black Bunny (or what became of the Black Bunny?). i GOT TO TOUCH THE BLACK BUNNY (at least before it was tranfered back to the east coast around the time of final decom of Fleet Tomcats... http://www.f-14assoc...play-164604.htm derp. seen her at Oceana (though it didnt jive to me at the time that it was Vandy-1. i memorized SE serial Numbers, not AC Bu Numbers) There are a few photos floating around online, but I don't have any decent shots. Quote
Flaming Guantlet Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Paramount must really need the money... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cnf4ZcRRA8 Tomcats on the big screen is never a bad thing in my book. Quote
Shaorin Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Right?? How is this not the coolest aircraft the world has ever seen (that and the VF-1 of course): Effin' A, man. just look at those Hunnies... Quote
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