Valkyrie23 Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Brutal episode but it took all that effort to break Rick down. Gotta love that "look" at the end. As for the Governor vs Negan. The Governor is nothing more than a psycho wack job who is more shallow than a puddle of water. Negan is very intelligent, a great leader for his purpose and the best villain of the series (comics and probably in the tv series). The intro is all you need to know is that you don't mess with Negan. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Nothing Rick does to Negan will ever qualify as satisfying revenge or justice... Agreed...hopefully the show runners understand that and don't give us another season of exactly that.....but I don't think they do, so they probably will.... Quote
Mazinger Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Brutal episode but it took all that effort to break Rick down. Gotta love that "look" at the end. As for the Governor vs Negan. The Governor is nothing more than a psycho wack job who is more shallow than a puddle of water. Negan is very intelligent, a great leader for his purpose and the best villain of the series (comics and probably in the tv series). The intro is all you need to know is that you don't mess with Negan. My $.02: I was an early fan of the comics. At the time nobody was paying attention to zombies. Zombies were, eh, dead, but I was intrigued by the black and white comic immediately. I read it up until Rick and the crew make it into Alexandria. For the most part, I thought the comics were good, though sometimes the crossed a line with me with depictions of brutality and torture. The show had never done that, until now. I could think of a dozen ways better to depict the scenes from the S7 premiere that would not have required what was depicted there so graphically, almost in a mean way, towards fans. It was almost anti-fan service. Fan-abuse, perhaps. I think the directors missed the point of what story there was there. Now with shows like Westworld, Netflix's Marvel shows, GoT, and all the various classic anime shows I didn't have easy access to before the streaming era, I think I might be done with Walking Dead. Quote
Negotiator Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 walking dead trolls it's fans with troll editing. it used to be suspenseful and have some mystery. i don't know what to classify this show as, but not interested in watching until the end of this arch. then see how it will rinse and repeat. Quote
TangledThorns Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Nothing Rick does to Negan will ever qualify as satisfying revenge or justice... Remember when the Governor found redemption, at least for a few interesting episodes? The Governor was more than Negan evil IMHO. He killed just for his own paranoid entertainment. This applies to the comic and TV series. Quote
myk Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 Ah the Guv'na. My favorite character in the whole series... Quote
Ghadrack Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 It will be interesting to watch the next few seasons to see how the characters evolve based on what we just saw. They've strayed a hair here and there in terms of character development with some of the players and some who don't exist in both the comic and the TV show, but clearly they are following the same basic trajectory, Ezekiel, Maggie at Hilltop, Rick at Alexandria..... We can probably safely assume that we can look forward to a season of Rick's group subjugated, making alliances with the other groups and ultimately, working to overthrow Negan. How the Daryl element will play out I don't know, he may take the place of his scarred alter ego from the comic books, but that such a rich character development story which they are going to need I don't think they'll discard him, I expect they'll save Daryl for another Fan cliffhanger death leading up to the Negan showdown Quote
Mommar Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 It will be interesting to watch the next few seasons to see how the characters evolve based on what we just saw. They've strayed a hair here and there in terms of character development with some of the players and some who don't exist in both the comic and the TV show, but clearly they are following the same basic trajectory, Ezekiel, Maggie at Hilltop, Rick at Alexandria..... We can probably safely assume that we can look forward to a season of Rick's group subjugated, making alliances with the other groups and ultimately, working to overthrow Negan. How the Daryl element will play out I don't know, he may take the place of his scarred alter ego from the comic books, but that such a rich character development story which they are going to need I don't think they'll discard him, I expect they'll save Daryl for another Fan cliffhanger death leading up to the Negan showdown I'm aware of the larger comic book beats but I'm not familiar with who you're referencing in relation to Daryl. Quote
myk Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Me neither; he doesn't exist at all in the comics... Quote
Sandman Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 TV Daryl took on some of comics dwight's story beats from what I understand. Them both being on the show at the same time is almost redundant unless they branch them off in separate ways. Quote
Roy Focker Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Who cares about this B story about Carol? The A story characters split in 2. Show us the characters still going to Hilltop or show us the characters going back to Alexandria. Quote
Mommar Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I was waiting for somebody to miss the forest for the trees... I mean, complain about this episode. Quote
505thAirborne Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 Anyone else still watching this series and wondering where is it going at this point? Last week could have been the end of Negan at the front gate and they blew it. I get it's based on a comic but still, what a wasted opportunity. Quote
myk Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 I'm still watching it. Last week's episode has me puzzled because...by surrending all of their guns they've completely screwed themselves. How are they supposed to mount a resistance now? At least in the comics they still had the option of superior firepower. And like you, I think their best chance was greeting Negan's inaugural visit with a hail of bullets, not giving up their guns. Like it or not, guns are power and now they have none. Clearly, they're shaping up Maggie to follow her comic book counterpart. Carl's also following suit. WTF happened to Tara? I've always been a supporter of the show, but the quandry that they've put themselves in from last week leaves me seriously wondering how they're going to bounce back from this one... Quote
Roy Focker Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 They could have killed Saviors by shooting them with the rocket launcher when they were at the gate. Daryl wouldn't have made it but Negan would be gone. Without him the Saviors would breakup. Quote
Mommar Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 I am wondering how they're going to work around losing all of their guns as well. Quote
Dynaman Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 I'm still watching it. Last week's episode has me puzzled because...by surrending all of their guns they've completely screwed themselves. How are they supposed to mount a resistance now? At least in the comics they still had the option of superior firepower. And like you, I think their best chance was greeting Negan's inaugural visit with a hail of bullets, not giving up their guns. Like it or not, guns are power and now they have none. Clearly, they're shaping up Maggie to follow her comic book counterpart. Carl's also following suit. WTF happened to Tara? I've always been a supporter of the show, but the quandry that they've put themselves in from last week leaves me seriously wondering how they're going to bounce back from this one... After last season people are still expecting good writing on this show? Quote
Sandman Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 They just need to find a new supply of guns (easy right?). Eugene is obviously going to be supplying the bullets. Quote
Tking22 Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 I'll catch up after the mid-season finale like I always do now. This show needs to be binged, it's far too boring and middling to watch week after week in my opinion. I did watch the big death scene online, went as expected, apparently this show hasn't been completely neutered, well done Walking Dead, brutally perfect. Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) Negan is awesome , he's more likable in the series better than the comics. Edited November 24, 2016 by Black Valkyrie Quote
505thAirborne Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) After last night's mid-season finale there might still be hope for this show. I think that Rick has taken enough sh-t from Negan... game on a$$hole! Edited December 12, 2016 by 505thAirborne Quote
TangledThorns Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 My wife and I are losing interest in this show and I think it mainly has to do with the romance between Rick and Michonne, it seems contrived and lacks any chemistry between the actors. Quote
Roy Focker Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Well they never showed them courting. There was a time jump and they woke up in bed together. Quote
myk Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Well, now the bullet maker is gone too. Curious to see how they will mount any kind of resistance. Sticks and stones? Hopes and dreams? Edited December 14, 2016 by myk Quote
jvmacross Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 Well, now the bullet maker is gone too. Curious to see how they will mount any kind of resistance. Sticks and stones? Hopes and dreams? LOL......harsh language? I'll catch up after the mid-season finale like I always do now. This show needs to be binged, it's far too boring and middling to watch week after week in my opinion. I did watch the big death scene online, went as expected, apparently this show hasn't been completely neutered, well done Walking Dead, brutally perfect. Funny.....alot of people I know are doing the same thing....thank goodness for Netflix... Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 Negan is the star of this season. Quote
spanner Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 I watched the first few seasons then stopped, and when my son wanted me to get season 6 for him I started watching it again then caught up on the rest. Season 7 is ok so far. Rick is clearly approached his tipping point with Negan so im sure now we'll see things start happening. Quote
TangledThorns Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 Negan is the star of this season. Exactly. That is why they cast Jeffrey Dean Morgan. I expect his character to be a around for a while. Quote
505thAirborne Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Tonight's season premier was rather enjoyable, some great scenes, the least amount of commercials in a long time as a bonus. Now for those who watched it... what was Rick smiling at in the end? Quote
Roy Focker Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 He was smiling. Most likely because those people could be potential allies. I find some of these communities to be down right silly.  Society has only collapse a few years ago and we've got all these unique groups and their wacky customs. Quote
myk Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Roy Focker said: He was smiling. Most likely because those people could be potential allies. I find some of these communities to be down right silly.  Society has only collapse a few years ago and we've got all these unique groups and their wacky customs. Well since someone else brought them up, I'll ask what group those people are supposed to be?  They're not the Whisperers... Quote
Ghadrack Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 I'm betting they are a plot vehicle for Alexandria to re-arm. Either soul-less villain types that Rick and company can dispatch with abandon to remind the viewers how tough they are, or like-minded victims of the Saviors with a just cause and willingness to re-arm the Alexandirans on the down low in return for creture comforts and a few houses in Alexandria with hot showers and bottle of chianti. Quote
Ghadrack Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 10/27/2016 at 10:37 PM, Sandman said: TV Daryl took on some of comics dwight's story beats from what I understand. Them both being on the show at the same time is almost redundant unless they branch them off in separate ways. This... Spoiler I can't imagine they will discard Daryl lightly because he is such a fan favorite, but they need the Dwight redemption story because it is one of the most uplifting character development arcs they do in the whole series.  That being said, I'm guessing they are going to ultimately end up sacrificing Daryl in some mission, perhaps to rescue Eugene because two bad-ass tough but lovable biker guys is too much leathery hug material for one show  Quote
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