Gubaba Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Not sure if it qualifies as one of the worst, but "Something Is Out There" was pretty bad, despite having a nearly-naked Maryam d'Abo. Quote
Vepariga Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Earth 2 and Space Above and Beyond. if I was going to say something alil more "recent" Id probably say Farscape or V. Quote
Agent ONE Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 ... Why not? Almost every show we've mentioned on this thread is a kids show. I know, and I think that makes the thread, not that cool. Stupid kids shows are abundant. In fact, MOST kid shows are turbo stupid. Its the shows that are planned to be for an adult audience, and are just a tard party are the only shows really worthy of discussion. As I mentioned earlier: That one with Linda Hamilton and that lion-man creature that she was in love with. That was so stupid I wanted to throw my tv out the window. (Apparently called Beauty and the Beast as stated above) They were like DEAD SERIOUS with that sh!t. Quote
taksraven Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 Not sure if it qualifies as one of the worst, but "Something Is Out There" was pretty bad, despite having a nearly-naked Maryam d'Abo. You certainly nailed the best part of the show, but I thought it was alright. Pretty ruthless alien they were up against. Leaving around the skins of those it killed. Nasty stuff. Did it go to series or just a "pilot"? Taksraven Quote
taksraven Posted August 17, 2010 Author Posted August 17, 2010 I know, and I think that makes the thread, not that cool. Stupid kids shows are abundant. In fact, MOST kid shows are turbo stupid. Its the shows that are planned to be for an adult audience, and are just a tard party are the only shows really worthy of discussion. As I mentioned earlier: That one with Linda Hamilton and that lion-man creature that she was in love with. That was so stupid I wanted to throw my tv out the window. (Apparently called Beauty and the Beast as stated above) They were like DEAD SERIOUS with that sh!t. I understand your argument and it is completely valid. To me, its like with films when most people say the worst film ever was "Plan 9 from Outer Space", but my logic is that it was a cheap shite film with low production values anyway, so who cares, its too easy to consider it worst ever. My alternative suggestion for worst film ever (and yes, I know that there is a thread for this, I am just explaining a belief) would be Waterworld, for much the same reasons stated by Agent One for "Beauty and the Beast". They were dead serious with Waterworld, it cost a shiteload of money and it was a huge flop (yes I know it made its money back, blah blah.) Thats why I started this thread with Galactica 1980, Earth 2 and Seaquest DSV, as I saw all three of these shows as cynical efforts by the studios to throw SF fans a bunch of crap and hope that SF fans would lap up any old bunch of crap. Although you could also argue that it is wrong to produce childrens programming like it is crap too. Why should kids have to put up with such garbage. Thats why I loved Battle of the Planets as a child, as I could tell that it was a much more "serious" show (except for the added stuff like 7-Zark-7) and a cut above most American animated programs at the time that were aimed at "kids". Same goes for Star Blazers too. Taksraven Quote
Keith Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Bah, totally forgot they made a new "Knight Rider." Quote
Agent ONE Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Bah, totally forgot they made a new "Knight Rider." Was that a show or a movie? Quote
areaseven Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Was that a show or a movie? It started as a TV movie and continued as a series. But still, regardless of how bad it was, Team Knight Rider was worse. Quote
Keith Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 Was that a show or a movie? TV movie with a follow up TV show. Caught part of an episode once where Optimus Prime did the voice of the new version of "KARR," and the car somehow turned into a Bayformer. I think they probably got sued out of existence. It started as a TV movie and continued as a series. But still, regardless of how bad it was, Team Knight Rider was worse. I'm gonna say Team Knight Rider wasn't worse, since it had that cute blonde chick in it. Quote
GU-11 Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 One of the reasons why the toys were overpriced was a mechanical gimmick wherein the pilot figure ejected if the target on the TV fired back. Also, the cost of the toys was to offset the show's overinflated budget (US$1 million per episode! In today's money, that would be over US$20 million - and for a children's show!). Damn, that is one HUGE budget for kiddie fodder! If only they could have gotten better actors for the show. Bah, totally forgot they made a new "Knight Rider." You mean the one featuring Micheal Knight's "son" and a black Mustang? Yeah, that one was bad. I've never seen such a huge gathering of uncharismatic actors on one film set in my life. Sadly, the magic of the original 80's show is lost forever. Quote
BeyondTheGrave Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) Firefly. More so overrated than bad. Oh Viper.The wanna be knight rider. And mantis Edited August 17, 2010 by BeyondTheGrave Quote
The Shade Posted August 17, 2010 Posted August 17, 2010 You certainly nailed the best part of the show, but I thought it was alright. Pretty ruthless alien they were up against. Leaving around the skins of those it killed. Nasty stuff. Did it go to series or just a "pilot"? Taksraven Something Is Out There actually made to series. After the somewhat good mini-series (in which you got to see some aliens), the entire series went basically like this: something strange is going on, looks like it could be aliens or paranormal activity. Our 2 lead characters investigate. In the end, it turns out it was just normal humans who had cooked up some scheme to make money, take power, or some other meh reason. The entire alien/paranormal angle for every episode was just misunderstood to be those things. The series last about half a year, until it was canceled. I wonder why? Quote
Gubaba Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Something Is Out There actually made to series. After the somewhat good mini-series (in which you got to see some aliens), the entire series went basically like this: something strange is going on, looks like it could be aliens or paranormal activity. Our 2 lead characters investigate. In the end, it turns out it was just normal humans who had cooked up some scheme to make money, take power, or some other meh reason. The entire alien/paranormal angle for every episode was just misunderstood to be those things. The series last about half a year, until it was canceled. I wonder why? Not even half a year...just six episodes. Quote
eugimon Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 totally, Street Hawk, on the other hand, was pure awesome in a spin cycle of best. show. ever. Quote
Gubaba Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 AIRWOLF Discuss. Airwolf = NOT SF. Ditto Blue Thunder. Quote
ae_productions Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Firefly. More so overrated than bad. Oh Viper.The wanna be knight rider. And mantis Firefly? Really? That was a great show. Different strokes, I guess. Even though I still think you're dead wrong on that one. Quote
frothymug Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 AIRWOLF Discuss. I was waiting for someone to bring up this show. I LOVED that show when I was a kid. Quote
areaseven Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Airwolf = NOT SF. Explain how a helicopter can fly over Mach 1 is not sci-fi. Quote
eugimon Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Explain how a helicopter can fly over Mach 1 is not sci-fi. it's called "fantasy" Quote
GU-11 Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 What's so bad about Airwolf? Sure, the protagonist's name was weird (who names his son, "String-Fellow"?) but the story was plausible (if not realistic), and the chopper (IMO) looks way cool. To each his own, I guess. Viper? I agree. Just another KR wannabe. Quote
Ghost Train Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) Aside from the aforementioned ability to hit Mach 1+ with a helicopter fuselage and shoot down fairly capable fighters like Mig-21's... The most lolz however was when it flew to the edge of the atmosphere and the sky was like all dark and sh!t and you could see the curvature of the earth... so incredibly plausible given that actual helicopters cannot be used in extreme altitudes of Mt. Everest because the air is already too thin. Anyways, that is not to say I disliked the show... in fact, I actually liked it. But for me bad = good, as bad has its own innate quality of good. Thus I love Astro Plan, Kate+8, Robotech, Gundam Wing, Dancing with the Stars, Ninja Warrior, and Star Wars Episode III. Edited August 18, 2010 by Ghost Train Quote
Noriko Takaya Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 BJ and the Bear. Oh wait, that's not sci-fi. Quote
areaseven Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) I was gonna mention that one Benji show where he encounters an alien. EDIT: This one Edited August 18, 2010 by areaseven Quote
GU-11 Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Aside from the aforementioned ability to hit Mach 1+ with a helicopter fuselage and shoot down fairly capable fighters like Mig-21's... The most lolz however was when it flew to the edge of the atmosphere and the sky was like all dark and sh!t and you could see the curvature of the earth... so incredibly plausible given that actual helicopters cannot be used in extreme altitudes of Mt. Everest because the air is already too thin. Anyways, that is not to say I disliked the show... in fact, I actually liked it. But for me bad = good, as bad has its own innate quality of good. Thus I love Astro Plan, Kate+8, Robotech, Gundam Wing, Dancing with the Stars, Ninja Warrior, and Star Wars Episode III. Heheh, actually I mean the plotline itself was plausible given the fact that it's the early 80's we're talking about...not the action scenes. AFAIC, "Disgruntled Vietnam vet steals prototype super-chopper to hold a hostage to get back brother, and ends up working for secret governmental agency" is at least slightly more believable than "ex-cop solves crime with talking car." Don't get me wrong, though. I loved KR as a kid, but the premise itself isn't exactly believable. Quote
eugimon Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Heheh, actually I mean the plotline itself was plausible given the fact that it's the early 80's we're talking about...not the action scenes. AFAIC, "Disgruntled Vietnam vet steals prototype super-chopper to hold a hostage to get back brother, and ends up working for secret governmental agency" is at least slightly more believable than "ex-cop solves crime with talking car." Don't get me wrong, though. I loved KR as a kid, but the premise itself isn't exactly believable. that's funny because we're a lot closer to KR today than we are to airwolf. A lot of the stuff shown in KR like the AI, drive by wire, computer system, a lot of that we can do today (to varying degrees). We're still no where near a bullet proof helicopter that can hit mach speeds Quote
GU-11 Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 that's funny because we're a lot closer to KR today than we are to airwolf. A lot of the stuff shown in KR like the AI, drive by wire, computer system, a lot of that we can do today (to varying degrees). We're still no where near a bullet proof helicopter that can hit mach speeds I know. Ironic, isn't it? Quote
Keith Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Since no one else will say it, I will. "The X-Files." Sure it started out fun & mysterious, but the whole thing super crapped on itself with a long drawn out "alien" mystery that never did go anywhere. Then when Duchovney left, and that alien mysery was suedo explained, entirely different aliens popped up with super terminator style aliens and much wtf. Plus, far too much of the show was focused on that news story about some dude emitting noxious gas in a hospitol. I officially dub the X-Files to be a failure. Quote
areaseven Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Since The X-Files was brought up, does Baywatch Nights count as sci-fi? After all, it attempted to jump the X-Files bandwagon during season 2 when ratings went under. Quote
Keith Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Since The X-Files was brought up, does Baywatch Nights count as sci-fi? After all, it attempted to jump the X-Files bandwagon during season 2 when ratings went under. I'll allow it. The fake tits factor alone in regular Baywatch should qualify it as sci-fi. Quote
areaseven Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 I'll allow it. The fake tits factor alone in regular Baywatch should qualify it as sci-fi. You forget, they're lifeguards. They are required to carry flotation devices all the time. Quote
taksraven Posted August 18, 2010 Author Posted August 18, 2010 Airwolf = NOT SF. Ditto Blue Thunder. Yeah, that was my first thought. Action series category? Knight Rider was more SF. Since no one else will say it, I will. "The X-Files." Sure it started out fun & mysterious, but the whole thing super crapped on itself with a long drawn out "alien" mystery that never did go anywhere. Then when Duchovney left, and that alien mysery was suedo explained, entirely different aliens popped up with super terminator style aliens and much wtf. Plus, far too much of the show was focused on that news story about some dude emitting noxious gas in a hospitol. I officially dub the X-Files to be a failure. I always thought the X-Files was crap (still nowhere near as bad as the shows I mentioned at the start of this thread though. ) I couldn't stand the Conspiracy Theory/brand of Pseudoscience that it peddled. (Yes, I know that Pseudoscience is the basis of most SF) Quote
Agent ONE Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 I liked Airwolf, and its not really sci-fi. Saying its sci-fi is like calling Rocky sci-fi because nobody can take that many hits... Quote
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