arrow Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Which design looks sleeker to you- sv-51 or vf-27? Quote
miriya Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I prefer VF-27 but SV-51 looks sleeker. So I dont know how to vote on this. Quote
jenius Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 VF-27 looks sleeker, SV-51 is more kibble-y (boosters and missiles attached). VF-27 is MUCH better in battroid. Quote
Vic Mancini Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Sleeker?... If we're talking line art I think it's dead even. If we're talking 1/60 toys I'd give the edge to the 27. I can't put my finger on what it is, but the Yamato 51 didn't capture the sleekness of the F-mode quite like Hasegawa did. I'm an SV-51 fan though, myself. I don't like the SR-71 influence on the VF-27, or the oversized gunpod in F-mode, or Brera/Grace as characters very much. Quote
miriya Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 D'oh! I was not reading clearly and thought that sv-51 was SR-71, totally forgetting about the bad ass macrossZero enemy mech. Now that I know what you are referring to I think that the VF-27 is sleeker but I prefer the SV-51. Quote
charger69 Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 SV-51 is the sleekest fighter ever IMO! But yes VF-27 is more 'streamlined' but not sleeker... Quote
eugimon Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 For me, the 21/22 is still the sleekest and most streamlined out of all the valks in fighter mode. It's a great example of conservation of line. But I'll agree the 27 is the sleeker compared to the sv-51 Quote
Horatio Positronic Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I actually didn't like the SV-51 much until the VF-27 came along. After drooling over the 27 for a while I noticed the similarities with the 51. Quote
Vic Mancini Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 For me, the 21/22 is still the sleekest and most streamlined out of all the valks in fighter mode. The 21/22 is not bad, but I think in terms of sleekness the VF-11 takes the cake. That is one smooth and beautiful bird. The more I think about it, the less I think the word "sleek" is appropriate for the 51 and 27. Both are quite jaggedy and menacing, actually. Quote
VF5SS Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 The more I think about it, the less I think the word "sleek" is appropriate for the 51 and 27. Both are quite jaggedy and menacing, actually. that's because they're bad guys Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 I think the VF-27 edges out the SV-51 in sleekness. It's more smoothly contoured and streamlined than the SV-51 (except for the fins on the head unit of the 27γ variant. I wish they at least folded down flat against the body). Quote
boyarque Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I'll certainly go for VF-27... btw Vic, nice pics there! Quote
frothymug Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I have to agree that the VF-11 does have its qualities. I'm starting to grow to love it a lot... especially when the pilot is named Isamu Dyson and he's tearing up a squadron of Zentraedi Enemy Battlesuits. Quote
Graham Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 In terms of sleekness, I think the VF-27 (sans gun), looks sleeker than the SV-51. However, I personally prefer the look of the SV-51 in all three modes over the VF-27. The SV-51 just looks meaner and certainly more 'real-world-ish', in fighter mode. For ultimate sleekness, nothing beats a VF-19F IMO. Graham Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 None of them, both look like a headless chicken. As for the sleeker VF, for me is the VF-19 series. Quote
raptormesh Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 I chose the '51 but the lines on the 22 is unsurpassed in terms of fluidity. Also by extension, the YF-23. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 I chose the 51 as well. While the sv-27 is arguably sleeker in the fighter mode, I prefer the SV-51's unconventional battroid, and the more rugged look of the fighter. Also, points to the SV-51 for having VTOL capability, even if it wasn't realized on Yamato's version (the chest piece raises in fighter to expose the lift fan.) I have to agree with everyone who believes that the YF-21, by virtue of its YF-23 inspiration, is the sleekest of all the valkyries. It's a beautiful design, at least in fighter. Not as crazy about its battroid. Quote
Renato Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 I chose the 51, but it's mostly because of the longer nose. 20091027171037_0.bmp Quote
GU-11 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 I chose the 51 as well. While the sv-27 is arguably sleeker in the fighter mode, I prefer the SV-51's unconventional battroid, and the more rugged look of the fighter. Also, points to the SV-51 for having VTOL capability, even if it wasn't realized on Yamato's version (the chest piece raises in fighter to expose the lift fan.) I have to agree with everyone who believes that the YF-21, by virtue of its YF-23 inspiration, is the sleekest of all the valkyries. It's a beautiful design, at least in fighter. Not as crazy about its battroid. I agree. To date, the YF-21 is still the sleekest, sexiest VF out there. But if I had to choose between the SV-51 and the VF-27, I'd have to go with the SV-51. To me at least, sleekness is not just about smooth lines and streamlining. The SV-51 has more character to it, and its extreme "gaunt and gangly" design lends a sensuality to it that the VF-27 simply lacks, IMO. Quote
arrow Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 I myself like the 51 better because it looks like the a Russian fighter as opposed to the closed cockpit of the 27. Quote
Ghost Train Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Subjective question is subjective ..... I picked 51. Quote
Loop Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Wow looks like the SV-51 pulled ahead I also chose the SV-51 Edited August 12, 2010 by Loop Quote
regult Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) SLEEK: adjective 1 glossy, satiny, sleek, silken, silky, silklike, slick having a smooth, gleaming surfac 2 sleek well-groomed and neatly tailored; especially too well-groomed I guess in the context of airplanes or transforming robots, means aerodynamic or clean lines (*not chunky in battroid mode). "Sleek" probably does not apply to neither: the 51 and the 27 all have jagged lines to make them look menacing. I think the 19 is a bit on the chunky side in all three modes...that leaves the 25 or the 11 as the cleanest valks IMO. Not necessarily my favorites, I like the SV-51 in fighter mode best, closely followed by the 27. The former looks like a Russian Su-27 while the latter a mix between the SR-71, the F-22 and the Su-27. Edited August 13, 2010 by regult Quote
ae_productions Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 The 51 is so...bizarre...you have to pick it over the 25/27. Quote
anime52k8 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 I just don't get it, what's so great about this? Quote
ae_productions Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 I just don't get it, what's so great about this? Not great, bizarre! It's the strangest VF in the entire Macross saga. It's kinda of like a Pug. It's so ugly, it's almost cute. Quote
Tking22 Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 I just don't get it, what's so great about this? What's so great about the vf-27? Precisely it's a matter of opinion, I find the vf-27 butt-ugly, yet I love the sv-51 even though I don't own one. Quote
raptormesh Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Not great, bizarre! It's the strangest VF in the entire Macross saga. It's kinda of like a Pug. It's so ugly, it's almost cute. It's hardly a pug, more like a throughbred greyhound . Quote
ae_productions Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 It's hardly a pug, more like a throughbred greyhound . Nice. I agree and I stand corrected! I have a deep appreciation for the 51. But that love had to evolve. When I first saw a test shot of Zero, I was like, "what in the F@#k is that thing?" Give it time. The 51 will grow on you. The 25 / 27 is fugly too. But what is different about the 51 is that it is it's own entity. The 25 and the 27 is a Frankenstein. It's a fusion of numerous valk designs used in the past. The feet belong to the 51. The nose is reminiscent of the 19 and the 11. I see some of the Zero in there too. I guess in some ways it's an analogy to the entire Macross Frontier storyline. Granted, it's cool, but to me, it's just rehashed segments of what we already know. The 51 is fresh. Original....and still ugly. But ugly in that good way. And, when it is armed with its armor parts (fast packs) it is very intimidating. To me the 25 isn't that scary. But again, it's all preference. Quote
Vic Mancini Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I just don't get it, what's so great about this? This is a more flattering angle: I think it's beautiful. Quote
ae_productions Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 This is a more flattering angle: I think it's beautiful. That's what I'm talking about. Those fast packs are intimidating! Quote
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