Yoshi Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 (edited) Hi I'm not dead ! Like some of you know, I'm a big fan of the two PC Engine games "Macross 2036" and "Macross Eternal Love Song". Many consider them as ugly bastard childs (not unlike the evil Bart twin in some Simpsons Horror Show), but I still love them. Some time ago, I did some translations (chara profiles and some other stuff) from these games. I showed them to my good friend and fellow MWer Roycommi, but I never posted them. Why ? Although I'm studying English and Japanese, they're not my native language and some of my translations sounded retarded. I finally decided to post them, these translations sound a bit retarded but IMHO they will probably be more useful on MW than lying in my hardrive. --- Macross 2036 / UN Spacy Komilia Maria Jenius Heroine of this story, usually called “Maria”. This 17 years-old girl is the children of an Earthling and a Zentradi. She is a UN Spacy cadet pilot under the supervision of Britai Kridanik. She is training on the UN Spacy Moon Base on the opposite side on the Moon, when a Zentradi fleet immune to the Minmay Attack attacks. During this crisis, Maria is allowed to enter the battle. Even if she is only a trainee, Maria has inherited the “genius pilot” skills from her parents. This charming young woman has a stout-hearted personality and an unyielding spirit inherited from her mother Milia, but she is aware of her humanity through the education received from her father Max. Valkyrie: Personal-use VF-1SR with four head lasers. Voice actress: Takada Yumi Britai Kridanik Zentradi commander of the Britai Fleet and Maria's superior officer. But for Britai, Maria is more than a subordinate, she's like a member of her family. Britai is looking after Maria because he's an acquaintance of her parents Max and Milia. Maria and Britai may not be related by blood, but Maria considers him like a close relative and calls him “uncle”. Since Britai and Milia are old friends, he has a lot of affection for Maria, but he is annoyed when Maria starts calling him "uncle" in the middle of a training. Voice actor: Ohtsuka Akio Lott Sheen UN Spacy cadet pilot. He's older than Maria by one year but she still leads him by the nose. His potential is a wasted by his rash behaviour; and his manners are those of a frivolous person. He may be Maria’s teammate, but he's somewhat reluctant to obey her orders. Like Maria, he's been allowed to participate to the battles in light of the Neld Fleet crisis. Valkyrie: Personal-use VF-1JR with two head lasers. Paint scheme looks like Roy Focker’s Skull One. Voice actor: Suzuoki Hirotaka Macross ELS: UN Spacy Gray Markshas A vigorous fellow gifted with a strong musculature. His wild temper makes him look rough, but at heart, he is a kind fellow. He is also an eccentric man who enjoys battle times and meal times the most. He pilots heavily armed machines, like the Monster and the Armored Valkyrie. He is also a veteran soldier who fought during the Space War One. Guy Harn Like Gray, Guy has a strong constitution. He is the younger of the two, a promising pilot with a potential to develop. He dislikes war but he feels that armed conflicts are sometimes unavoidable in order to bring back peace. He is the taciturn type of guy who never talks idly. Letlade Elendil Her nickname is “Leto”. She is a trainee along with Kiryû. She is capable pilot, but she is a bit whimsical and ignorant of the ways of the world. This is mainly because of her upbringing as a prim and proper young lady. Along with Kiryû, she is going to be involved in real fight situations in the course of her training. Voice actress: Honda Chieko Kiryû Hayato Hero of this game. He is currently following a training course on the UN Spacy Moon Base. He is blessed with high reflexes and reaction capacities, and he is regarded as a promising pilot. During his training, he gets involved in a battle against the Zentradi forces that unexpectedly appeared on the Moon. Kiryû displays superior pilot skills that truly shine when he takes part to real battles. Lyle Craze At first glance, he looks like a man of gentle manners, but his unusual composure and placidity conceal a very sharp mind. A highly skilled pilot seasoned by battles, he is renown as a UN Spacy ace pilot. At some point, he joins the same unit than the main characters, and they end up becoming comrades in arms. Britai 7018 Former Zentradi fleet commander. During the Space War One, his task was to give chase to Macross. During his battles with Macross, Minmay’s singing gradually affected him, and he chose the path of coexistence with mankind. Now, as the commander of the UN Spacy Britai Fleet, his role is mainly one of a leader. Exsedol 4970 Records staff officer attached to Britai. He has superior capacities when it comes to data memorizing. He has access to all the records and analyses made by previous staff officers of the fleet. Like Britai, Exsedol is one of these Zentradi giants affected by Minmay’s singing. Kane Fredd He calls himself « genius Valkyrie pilot ». However, he is overconfident and narcissist, which can sometimes lead him to act terrible. He is a cheerful and talkative fellow. When flattered, he immediately lets himself go, and appears as a light-hearted young man. Nanashi Alen Operator of the warships on which the main characters are stationing. Her personality is a bit dark and serious. She is Kiryû's superior officer Komilia Maria Jenius Her common name is Maria. During the past year’s conflict, she revealed superior skills. It is not surprising, since she is the daughter of the Earthling Max and of the Zentradi ace pilot Milia. Maria has a strong-minded personality inherited from her mother, but she is aware of her humanity through the education received from her father Max. Lott Sheen Maria’s trusted teammate and comrade in arms. He is a talented fellow, but his rash behavior wastes his skills. He is somewhat reluctant to obey to orders given by Maria, but for an outside observer, it is obvious that Maria is leading him by the nose. However, the two do not have noticed this yet. Macross ELS / Zentradi Grimzo Grinof Quamzin’s Zentradi underling. He is at the same time an operations staff officer, a confidential assistant, and a brain Quamzin can always rely on. He entertains doubts about another alliance with he Meltrandi, and he is not satisfied with the decision of pairing him with the Meltrandi Jinna. Jinna Fiaro Quamzin’s Meltrandi underling. The ways of the Culture have considerably influenced her, which is understandable considering the time she spent under Quamzin’s direct supervision. She has a rude and quick-tempered personality. She’s even more violent than Quamzin, except during the battles Quamzin Kravshera He was reported dead during the great war against the Bodolzaa Fleet, but he miraculously survived. For a short time, he was emotionally moved by the Culture of the Earthlings, and he lived among them. But he couldn’t stand a life devoid of battles, and he escaped Earth. This time, he has summoned the Burado Fleet, trying again to destroy Earth. He has taught the ways of the Culture to Burado, so this time the Zentradi will be immune to the Culture of the enemy. Bodol Burado Supreme commander of the Zentradi fleet that is attacking Earth this time. The Burado flagship is an entity that used to be directly connected to the Main Computer. Like Bodolzaa, he has been through a countless number of wars since his birth. That is why he has very little understanding of the “Culture”. In order to invade Earth, he has formed a partnership with Quamzin, who has had experience with the Culture in the past. He has devised the perfect plan to defeat the Culture. Macross ELS / Meltrandi Moruk Leplendis Among the Meltrandi forces, Moruk Leplendis is the supreme commander of the Leplendis flagship, which is of the same class than the Burado flagship. The Leplendis flagship is an entity that used to be directly connected to the Main Computer. The Leplendis Fleet has been fighting for countless years, leading to the weakening of their war potential. However, there are still fierce fighters left in the Leplendis Fleet, such as Misty and her elite force. Misty Klaus Meltrandi ace pilot. She is said to have destroyed one large-scale battleship all by herself thanks to her remarkable abilities. She has a strong spirit and hates to lose. Until recently, this young woman was not familiar with defeat, but during her battle with the main character, she has discovered the feeling of love. PS: Comments and corrections are welcome Edited November 22, 2003 by Yoshi
Roy Focker Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Komilia's 17 in 2036? DOB is 2019? That can't be right.
NoSuchFile Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Indeed it is strange I always thought Komilia was born is 2010
the white drew carey Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Komilia's 17 in 2036? DOB is 2019? That can't be right. That is odd.
Hurricane29 Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 No, the age is right if she was born in 2019.
Yoshi Posted November 22, 2003 Author Posted November 22, 2003 Yeah I was surprised at first, but you have to keep in mind the games stick very loosely to SDF-M and DYRL?. Most likely the creators wanted to have the game take place in 2036, but not to deal with a 25ish Komilia. Or maybe they just didn't care about continuity. It's the same thing with Quamzin. Why is he still alive ? Is it the SDF-M or the DYRL? Quamzin ? We don't really know. In the booklets and even within the games, the question is never adressed.
JB0 Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 <--- Yah. 2036 rules. Never played ELS, though.
Renato Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Yoshi!! Hey, if you want a hand, I can help you out with the translations of stuff.
bsu legato Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Hi I'm not dead ! And you are...who? Nice to see you back. From now on, don't be such a stranger around here.
trueblueeyes Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 Thanks, this is really great information!! Mods..Is there anyway to either have this pinned or stored on another part of this site? I'd hate to lose this info! Nice to have you back Yoshi! Thanks for taking the time to translate the material and for posting it to share with us. Sincerely, Melissa
Ali Sama Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 Komilia's 17 in 2036? DOB is 2019? That can't be right. 36-19 =17 easy way to confirm 19 +10 =29 29 +7 =36
John Focker Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 Komilia's 17 in 2036? DOB is 2019? That can't be right. 36-19 =17 easy way to confirm 19 +10 =29 29 +7 =36 Gee, math whiz...that's not the problem though... Komilia was born during the war with the Zentradi, meaning 2010, as depicted in the original Macross TV series. Year of birth in 2019 is THE problem...According to the TV series she should be 26 years old in 2036!
John Focker Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 Hi I'm not dead ! Like some of you know, I'm a big fan of the two PC Engine games "Macross 2036" and "Macross Eternal Love Song". Many consider them as ugly bastard childs (not unlike the evil Bart twin in some Simpsons Horror Show), but I still love them. Some time ago, I did some translations (chara profiles and some other stuff) from these games. I showed them to my good friend and fellow MWer Roycommi, but I never posted them. Why ? Although I'm studying English and Japanese, they're not my native language and some of my translations sounded retarded. I finally decided to post them, these translations sound a bit retarded but IMHO they will probably be more useful on MW than lying in my hardrive. Hey I'm not dead either...just in Cairo, Egypt!!! I was so bored after arriving in Cairo (I work for the Foreign Services now), so I ordered BOTH Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song. Problem is that now I have to find an emulator for PC Engine CD. Could you shed some light, Yoshi? Miss ya all greatly, and too bad I can't attend the MacrossWorld Cons anymore...wish I could make more spaghetti for you guys, and my newly learned Thai green curry...
Zentrandude Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 Hi I'm not dead ! Like some of you know, I'm a big fan of the two PC Engine games "Macross 2036" and "Macross Eternal Love Song". Many consider them as ugly bastard childs (not unlike the evil Bart twin in some Simpsons Horror Show), but I still love them. Some time ago, I did some translations (chara profiles and some other stuff) from these games. I showed them to my good friend and fellow MWer Roycommi, but I never posted them. Why ? Although I'm studying English and Japanese, they're not my native language and some of my translations sounded retarded. I finally decided to post them, these translations sound a bit retarded but IMHO they will probably be more useful on MW than lying in my hardrive. Hey I'm not dead either...just in Cairo, Egypt!!! I was so bored after arriving in Cairo (I work for the Foreign Services now), so I ordered BOTH Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song. Problem is that now I have to find an emulator for PC Engine CD. Could you shed some light, Yoshi? Miss ya all greatly, and too bad I can't attend the MacrossWorld Cons anymore...wish I could make more spaghetti for you guys, and my newly learned Thai green curry... should be easy to find the emulator in google but with mac eternal love song you might have probs with it not loading after the first mission like i did.
yellowlightman Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 I was so bored after arriving in Cairo (I work for the Foreign Services now), so I ordered BOTH Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song. Problem is that now I have to find an emulator for PC Engine CD. Could you shed some light, Yoshi? I'm not Yoshi, but try Magic Engine (google it), it seems to be the most full-function emulator I can find. The only problem is that it reuqires registration, which is total BS... It's a friggin emulator. BUT, you can get around that. When the emulator is not registered it'll quit every 5 minutes. So what I just do is do a game freeze and reload every 4 minutes (there's a little counter too, counting down from 5). Get's around it pretty easy. Certainly better than paying some guy $25 just to use an emulator.
Agent ONE Posted November 25, 2003 Posted November 25, 2003 Yoshi, thanks for that! Untill now I didn't know anything about the characters in that game.
TheLoneWolf Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 Yoshi, thank you so much for posting those translations. Indeed, the PC Engine games get little to no recognition, so your translations are worth more than gold to us few fans. As for your grammar, you did an excellent job, I had no problems understanding. Indeed, it's better to post something rather than nothing I think Komilia's birthdate (2019) is "correct" because it's supposed to correspond with the DYRL timeline? In DYRL, Max and Milia don't have any children, so I suppose they could've waited 9 years to have a child. I could be completely wrong, any ideas Yoshi? Oh yeah, MagicEngine is a FANTASTIC emulator! It's the one and only emulator I have ever bought, it's got some sweet options and is nearly perfect. Hmm, MagicEngine's coder is French and so is Yoshi. Hmmm.
John Focker Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 I think Komilia's birthdate (2019) is "correct" because it's supposed to correspond with the DYRL timeline? In DYRL, Max and Milia don't have any children, so I suppose they could've waited 9 years to have a child. I could be completely wrong, any ideas Yoshi?Oh yeah, MagicEngine is a FANTASTIC emulator! It's the one and only emulator I have ever bought, it's got some sweet options and is nearly perfect. Hmm, MagicEngine's coder is French and so is Yoshi. Hmmm. DYRL timeline is currently "non-canon", as it is a "movie" within the Macross universe. Therefore, Komilia was born in 2010, not 2019. You think $25 was fair for Magic Engine? So far it's ver 0.9.9 beta 5. Maybe I should wait until ver 1.0?!
mikeszekely Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 I think Komilia's birthdate (2019) is "correct" because it's supposed to correspond with the DYRL timeline? In DYRL, Max and Milia don't have any children, so I suppose they could've waited 9 years to have a child. I could be completely wrong, any ideas Yoshi?Oh yeah, MagicEngine is a FANTASTIC emulator! It's the one and only emulator I have ever bought, it's got some sweet options and is nearly perfect. Hmm, MagicEngine's coder is French and so is Yoshi. Hmmm. DYRL timeline is currently "non-canon", as it is a "movie" within the Macross universe. Therefore, Komilia was born in 2010, not 2019. You think $25 was fair for Magic Engine? So far it's ver 0.9.9 beta 5. Maybe I should wait until ver 1.0?! Yeah, but 2036 and Eternal Love Song are also non-canon. They're set in that alternate universe, in the space between DYRL and Macross II.
Yoshi Posted November 26, 2003 Author Posted November 26, 2003 Thank you ! To all the MWers who have replied to this thread, thank you very much. The 2019 birthdate Let's go back to 1992, when these two games were created. The only existing Macross were SDF, DYRL? and Flashback 2012. Back then, there was no "continuity" and DYRL? had no other stauts than a theatrical rendition of the Macross story. Kawamori-san and co. were not willing to do more Macross. So the new guys were pretty free to do anything with dates and charas without being pointed wrong... In the Macross II Entertainment Bible, there is a paragraph titled "Flashback 2019". It states that (Flashback) "is an episode taking place 20 years after Macross fell on Earth and 10 years after the war against the Zentradi." The lower page of page 34 is a summary of the Macross 2036 events, and again it states that Maria is 17 year old by 2036. The same book also mentions several times that the SDF-2 Megaroad was launched by 2014. B-Club issue 79 also states the SDF-2 Megaroad was launched by 2014. I don't know more than that, but IMHO the Komilia 2019 birthdate isn't a typo, it looks like the writers tried to build a Macross continuity (again remember at the time Kawamori-san and Studio Nue didn't went beyond the 2012 events). I've already said on this board I consider 2036 and ELS can be seen as prequel to Macross II. It looks like people tried to do something with 2036, ELS and II but nothing solid came out of it. Just my opinion...
Yoshi Posted November 26, 2003 Author Posted November 26, 2003 More translations... Here are the ELS "Mission briefings". Like you know ELS is a tactical role-playing game, and between each levels there are short story summaries - the so-called "Mission briefings" - whose purpose is to keep you updated on the latest story development as well the aims of the next level. Again, the writing isn't perfect, so please be indulgent MACROSS ETERNAL LOVE SONG – STORY INTRODUCTION (FIRST PART) More than 500,000 years ago, a stellar race possessing an advanced civilization called the Protoculture was prospering. However, a schism happened between the men and the women. And this situation finally degenerated into a war. They used their advanced technology to genetically engineer giant warriors devoted only to battles. The male giant warriors were called Zentradi and the female giant warriors were called Meltrandi. Both armies of giant warriors keep fighting, with terrible consequences. Many planets were destroyed, and the Protoculture, who had created these giant armies, were totally annihilated. However, the giant warriors, who had been programmed only to fight, were left without goals in life and keep fighting and spreading their war throughout the stars. MACROSS ETERNAL LOVE SONG - MISSIONS BRIEFINGS Mission 01 Real Fight On the Moon's surface, an unidentified flying object is approaching to the place where Kiryû and Letlade are training. Their two Valkyries are to go after it until the regular troops arrive. This is going to be Kiryû and Letlade’s first combat mission… Mission 02 Minmay Attack The enemies have been identified as being Zentradi troops. Kiryû and Letlade have become regulars, thanks to their actions in this first battle. They are assigned to the Apple Team under the Second Lieutenant Kai Rowda. Their first duty is to search and destroy the invading enemy ship. The UN Spacy launches the Minmay Attack in order to give favorable battle conditions to its pilots. Mission 03 Escort The Minmay Attack has been unsuccessful. Kiryû and his comrades destroyed the enemy ship after a fierce battle. Meanwhile, the Zentradi appear in Saturn's airspace. Quamzin, Britai's former subordinate, appears to be among them. The Minmay Attack failed because of his tactics. Quamzin and Bodol Burado plan to obtain the secret of the “song” and to take control of the universe. The Zentradi are now attacking the UN Spacy advance base on the Moon. Mission 04 Escape The Meltrandi also appear on the battlefield in search of their Zentradi foes. This makes the situation even more confusing. The Meltrandi are women-only giant warriors, and the enemies of the Zentradi. In the light of this development, Britai deems the situation unfavorable, and orders to temporarily withdraw to Earth. All the remaining units of the UN Spacy fleet gather and depart for Earth. However, the Meltrandi have dispatched a small force to Earth. Mission 05 Time Limit Kiryû and his comrades narrowly escape from the enemy encirclement. Enemy commander Misty decides to launch a counterattack against the UN Spacy troops who defeated her underlings. The UN Spacy fleet is extremely defenseless during atmospheric reentry, and would be helpless if attacked at this time. In order to ensure safe reentry timing to the fleet, Kiryû and his comrades take off and go after the enemy. The enemy encirclement must be broke within a time limit of 900 seconds. A violent battle is now about to begin in the upper atmosphere... Mission 06 Misty The UN Spacy has withdrawn to Earth, and is desperately rebuilding its war potential. Since the Earth defense organization is not complete yet, there are frequent patrols using recon planes. Kiryû and his comrades have also come back to Earth, and are escorting the recon planes with their Valkyries. Mission 07 Insider In recognition of his services, Kiryû becomes the Squadron Commander on the new aircraft carrier "Prometheus 2". Meanwhile, Meltrandi commander Misty is feeling anger, having experienced defeat for the first time. She is under the wrong impression that the culture of the Protocultures caused her defeat. This impression leads her to start an infiltration operation. Mission 08 Intercept Misty has sneaked into a town of Earth. However, for a Meltran who never experienced the Culture before, such a place is full of things and phenomenon beyond understanding. Particularly, the Meltrandi and their male counterparts live separately, and the only time they encounter, they fight. Thus, the fact that men and women are living together frightens Misty. Meanwhile, Zentradi commander Geran ordered its soldiers to go attack the town. Kiryû and his Hound Squadron are heading toward Geran, with the purpose of intercepting him. Mission 09 Contact Kiryû and the woman known as Misty finally met each other in town. The two were getting along pretty well and were having fun in the town. Then the Zentradi forces launched their attack. This town sustained great damages during past battles; so new casualties must be avoided at any cost. The UN troops must destroy the enemy before it can begin its raid on the town. Mission 10 Strike Mission The UN troops have decided to launch a counterattack against Geran, the Zentradi commander who has been frequently attacking towns. Geran has been caught deploying his fleet near the seashore. The UN has launched a general offensive against them. It is an all-out attack that targets the enemy flagship. Mission 11 Again There are more and more Meltrandi activities on Earth. The Prometheus 2 has caught a Meltrandi recon party. If they get to escape, others Meltrandi units will immediately come in reinforcement. Thus, this time mission consists in destroying the enemy ships before they can escape. Mission 12 Burning Point While on patrol duty, the Prometheus 2 witnesses a violent battle between a group of Zentradi and a group of Meltrandi. The Meltrandi are in numerical inferiority, so it is only a matter of time before the Zentradi annihilate them. Kiryû founds out that Misty is among the Meltrandi, and along with his friends, he takes off to go rescue her. Mission 13 Defense Line Misty is distressed and troubled to have been saved by her enemies, Kiryû and his friends. In addition, Leplendis has judged that human beings were effectively protocultures, and has ordered all Meltrandi units to evacuate Earth. Geran's superior officer Burasardo has launched a violent attack in retaliation of the annihilation of the Geran Fleet. Again, the enemies must absolutely be stopped before they can reach the town. This battle will definitely be difficult. Mission 14 Ambush Misty is still troubled and unable to deal with her feelings. In order to see Kiryû again, to talk to Kiryû again, she has chosen to go one more time through the micronization process. At the same time, Kiryû and his friends learn that Lyle ceased all communications while on patrol duty. Kiryû and his friends rush toward the location he was last signaled. There, Kiryû and his friends will have to deal with something unbelievable... Mission 15 Picket Line After Lyle's betrayal, the enemy attacked the Prometheus 2. At the time, Kiryû’s team was still away. Upon learning about this attack, Kiryû's team hurriedly returns to the ship, only to found a perfectly safe Prometheus 2 and a single Valkyrie standing next to the ship. The pilot in this Valkyrie is no other than Misty, and she protected the ship from the Zentran attacks. Having taken the road of exile, Misty will stand next to Kiryû in the battles to come. Now, before leaving Earth's atmosphere, Kiryû and his friends have to face the Meltrandi fleet, which has fled Earth and has been waiting for them at a high orbital position. Mission 16 Strike Through Having exhausted a lot of their war potential, the Meltrandi decided to withdrawn, letting the Zentradi and the United Forces wage their very own war. The war potential of the Meltrandi is so exhausted that they can be mopped up in one single battle. The UN Spacy has noticed the Meltrandi withdrawal, and immediately concentrates its attacks on them. Kiryû's team and the Prometheus 2 enter battle against the enemy vanguard fleet. Mission 17 Kill Zone Finally, the UN Spacy has engaged a decisive battle against Leplendis herself. However, the Zentradi jumped in the battle and all hell broke loose. In the midst of this chaos, Kiryû and his friends must survive to this battle royale, and have to continuously sally. Mission 18 Strikes Back The war potential of the Meltrandi Army has been considerably reduced, leading them to flee away from the battlefield by undertaking a fold. Lyle was patiently waiting for the UN Spacy to come out weakened from its battle against Leplendis. Now that the UN Spacy has sustained a certain amount of casualties, Lyle is sending his underlings to give the finishing blow to the protocultures… Kiryû's team is now facing Lyle's counterattack. Mission 19 Liberation Lyle's heart is filled with doubt, and he is painfully aware of it. However, he cannot discard his pride of Zentradi ace pilot. Once again, he launches an attack on the Prometheus 2, leading his troops from the cockpit of his Gilouza Free. A new battle between Lyle and Kiryû is going to take place. Mission 20 Moon Base Lyle's intelligence report explained why the Minmay Attack does not work on the enemy. Quamzin has started the Protoculture communication system and has made the necessary so that someone else can’t cut in the communications. Kiryû's team, which now virtually acts as a UN Spacy task force, have been ordered to recapture the Protoculture communication system from Quamzin. The first step is a diversionary attack that will lead to the recapture of the Moon Base. In order to launch a surprise attack, the base must be under UN control before the main enemy force arrives. It seems Kiryû’s team must conduct the battle with the greatest swiftness possible. Mission 21 Mars Area Now that the Moon Base has been recaptured, the UN Spacy and Kiryû's team are going after Quamzin. They are heading towards Mars. Quamzin is aware of their coming, so he has ordered to his underling Grimzo to prepare an ambush attack. The Prometheus 2 is now going to enter in an airspace defended by a large Zentradi force. This Zentradi force is expecting the Prometheus 2 attack and is prepared for it. Mission 22 Counterattack After a fierce fighting, Kiryû and his friends are getting closer and closer to Quamzin's ship. Quamzin has one more underling he can send against the United Forces in order to buy time. Jinna is targeting the Prometheus 2 with a warship carrying a powerful, large-scale “main cannon” designed to repel attacks from fortress ships. However, this ”main cannon” must gather energy for a long time before it can fire. This power depends on the satellite and is thus limited to one shot. Kiryû's team must destroy this cannon while it is still gathering energy, and before it can fire. Mission 23 Burado Fleet In order to recapture the communication system, the United Forces resolutely went after Quamzin's ship Quamzin ordered to hurry the reparation of his assault battlepod "Migg Pitt". Aware of the situation, Commander Bodol Burado has sent a part of his Main Fleet in reinforcement to help Quamzin. Mission 24 Daedalus Attack At last, Kiryû and his friends successfully caught Quamzin's ship. The Prometheus 2 is going to ram into Quamzin's ship by performing the Daedalus Attack. A large-scale assault is launched in order to take back the communication system. All ships and fighters take action to enforce the Prometheus 2's direct front attack. Kiryû and his Hound Squadron have taken off and are now heading toward Quamzin's ship. Mission 25 Assault Team Thanks to the Daedalus Attack, Kiryû and his friends have found their way into Quamzin's ship. Their target is the communication system located at the core of the ship. The core of the ship is located well above the place in which they have arrived. However, they are now within an enemy ship, and the Zentradi can launch ambush attacks at once, or even encircle them. And if they don't succeed in breaking through the core of the ship, the whole operation will be doomed to failure. Even if it means getting rid of all the enemies, they have to succeed. Mission 26 Satan Doll Kiryû and his friends have reached the core of Quamzin's ship. The communication system they have been searching for is lying before their eyes. However, there is someone between their objective and them: Quamzin and his Migg Pitt. In order to get the communication system, they cannot avoid to battle against Quamzin. In this battle, the mere fact of surviving can decide who is the winner: a cruel survival game has just started Mission 27 Cross of Fire Kiryû and his friends have finally defeated Quamzin and recaptured the communication system. However, during the trip back to their ship, Lyle bids Kiryû and the others farewell and leaves alone. Onboard the Prometheus 2, the communication system is hurriedly analyzed. However, the Main Fleet acting on Burado’s orders has encircled the ship. Until the completion of the communication system's analysis, the Prometheus 2 has to stubbornly defend itself. If the analysis is successfully completed, the "Minmay Attack" will regain its effectiveness. But so far the only thing the Prometheus 2 can do is withstanding the enemy attack. Mission 28 Last Attack At last, the analysis of the communication system has been completed, and the UN Spacy can finally engage in a decisive battle. The "Minmay Attack" has started. A combined fleet takes part in this battle, since the UN Spacy Main Fleet led by Commander Britai has joined forces with the Prometheus 2 task force. The operation consists in rushing to Burado's flagship while the Zentradi are confused by the “song”. A singing voice echoing throughout space and a long battle: things seem to draw near their conclusion. Final Mission Bodol Burado The “Minmay Attack” has confused the enemy, allowing the UN Spacy to break through the Main Fleet. Furthermore, Lyle ordered his fleet to support the UN Spacy. Seeing this, Zentradi soldiers are one after another turning against Burado, and siding with the UN Spacy. Kiryû and Misty's Valkyries, embarking heavy particle cannons, have entered Burado's flagship through the breach opened by the Lyle Fleet. The target is Bodol Burado himself. Carrying their spears loaded for a unique but lethal shot, the Sirens run through the battlefield.
bsu legato Posted November 27, 2003 Posted November 27, 2003 Yoshi, once upon a time on the old MW boards, you posted a collection of the old Macross games, and organized them into a quasi-timeline. If I remember it properly, you specualted that this timeline (which predated Studio Nue's return to all things Macross) was likely where MII derived it's background from. You should repost this sometime. OT: Are you still enjoying Gundam: The Origin?
Yoshi Posted November 27, 2003 Author Posted November 27, 2003 (edited) I'll try to do it from scratch using my B-Club copy and what I remember from the two games. More details may be added using the Mac2 novels but mine are packed up right now (haha student life). Most of the lines above are quotes or paraphrases from the following sources: Macross 2036 (game), Macross ELS (game), Variable Fighter History (B-Club article). Like you can see, the two games can be seen as prequels to Macross II. The 2054 events may explain why: 1) Britai's fleet isn't around in Macross 2. 2) The UN Spacy is so weak in Macross 2. Also you can see there are colonization missions in the Macross 2 "universe", but not on the same scale than in Studio Nue's later stories. You will also note there is a lot of Gundam influence. In Macross ELS, we see "funnels" as well as small-scale fleet battles ala Gundam. The civilian Valkyries naming pattern follows those of the Gundams (ie RX-78, RX designed in UC 78 and VC-51, Valkyrie designed in AD 2051 etc...) 2010 ~ 2036 - During this period, several Zentradi fleets attack, but they're repelled by the UN Spacy forces lead by Commander Britai, as well as by the shock caused by the the Minmay Attack. Development of the VF-1R Valkyrie equipped with the SP-II Super Pack. 2014 - Launch of the interstellar emigration ship SDF-2 Megaroad, escorted by VF-4 fighters. 2018 - Lott Sheen born. 2019 - Komilia Maria Jenius born. 2032 - Dr H. Tachikahof passes away. He was the father of the VF-1 and VF-1R series. 2036: The Super Dimension Fortress Macross 2036 - Maria Jenius and Lott Sheen underwent pilot training under Britai's supervision. Just before their graduation, a Zentradi fleet unaffected by the Minmay Attack invades the Solar System and engages the UN Spacy fleet. - Maria, Lott and the others cadets are allowed to fight in the light of the crisis. - Maria battles and defeats Quamzin Kravshera and his underlings Jinna and Grimzo. The infamous trio manage to survive and to flee. - The UN Spacy fleet defeats the so-called Neld Fleet - Maria Jenius and Lott Sheen promoted to the rank of 1st Lieutenant. Maria becomes commander of the Red Horns Squadron. 2037: The Super Dimension Fortress Macross ~ Eternal Love Song - Earth is under attack of the Zentradi Burado Fleet and of the Meltrandi Mokurendis Fleet. After an initial retreat, the UN Spacy launches a counterattack spear-headed by the Prometheus 2 taskforce. - The Meltrandi Mokurendis Fleet withdraws. - Meltrandi ace pilot Misty Klaus joins the UN Spacy with the rank of 2nd Lieutnenant - UN Spacy cadet Kiryû Hayato is promoted to the rank of Major, and appointed CAG of the Prometheus 2 ship. - Introduction of the VF-4 Siren, the "super" variant VF-4SP, and the funnels-equipped VF-4ST. - The UN Spacy main fleet and the Prometheus 2 launch a combined attack on the Burado Fleet. The UN Spacy launches the Minmay Attack (Ai oboete imasu ka) and defeats the Burado Fleet. 2040s Earth enjoys a relative peace. 2050s Development of civilian-use Valkyries (the so-called VC series) begins. 2051 Development of the VC-51. May 2054 - The Macross-class interstellar emigration ship "Million Star" is attacked by Zentradi rogues while cruising at 1.8 light-years from Earth. - To defend itself, mankind establish a defensive perimeter at Pluto's orbit. The Britai Fleet and the Minmay Attack plays a key role in this defensive perimeter. December 2054 - The Zentradi rogues enter the defensive perimeter. The UN Spacy repels the invaders but suffers terrible losses. - The Britai Fleet is decimated (both men and equipment) . - The UN Spacy captures a Zentradi factory satellite. 2060s - Development of the VF-XX series begins. 2072 - Roll-out of the first VF-2 series fighter. 2079 - Development of the VC-079. 2081 - Development of the VF-2SS (space-use variant of the VF-2 series) 2082 - A Zentradi fleet attacks Earth. The VF-2SS takes part to actual combat. 2086 - Development of the VF-2JA (atmosphere-use variant of the VF-2 series) And then Macross II... The series 80 years after the Space War One so probably 2089~2092. In the first episode, Sylvie says the latest Zentradi attack took place 10 years ago. If it's the 2082 invasion, then it would put Macross II around 2091~2092. OT for Bsu and others interested in my life : Didn't buy the latest one but plan to do soon. Still high of the UC. Can't wait the release of the latest SD Gundam game (GBA) and AEUG vs Titans (PS2). Must be careful with my anime/game/goodies buying, since I'm likely to go to Japan next year (haha university exchange program hell)... Edited November 27, 2003 by Yoshi
Legioss Posted November 27, 2003 Posted November 27, 2003 - Dr H. Tachikahof passes away. He was the father of the VF-1 and VF-1R series. Is this a different VF-1R than..that other one?
John Focker Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 I was so bored after arriving in Cairo (I work for the Foreign Services now), so I ordered BOTH Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song. Problem is that now I have to find an emulator for PC Engine CD. Could you shed some light, Yoshi? I'm not Yoshi, but try Magic Engine (google it), it seems to be the most full-function emulator I can find. The only problem is that it reuqires registration, which is total BS... It's a friggin emulator. BUT, you can get around that. When the emulator is not registered it'll quit every 5 minutes. So what I just do is do a game freeze and reload every 4 minutes (there's a little counter too, counting down from 5). Get's around it pretty easy. Certainly better than paying some guy $25 just to use an emulator. Hey yellowlightman, Since you seem to know way more than I about Magic Engine, could you help me? I just loaded Magic Engine 0.9.9 beta 5 on WinXP Home (Dell Inspiron 8500 laptop), in order to run the Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song I bought on Ebay. Now my E and F drives appear as F and G, and the emu keeps telling me disk error. Has anyone ever run into this? Would system card ROMs help (anyone has these)? I hope someone can either help me fix the drive letter problem and/or make my Macross 2036 run. Are there any other PC Engine CD emus that are better? Thanx a million in advance, for your expertise...
yellowlightman Posted December 1, 2003 Posted December 1, 2003 Hey John, Yeah, when I installediton my GF's computer.. I believe I needed system roms. Check out the forums, do a search... you should be able to find a link to a website with the roms. If you can't find them, PM me and I'll try to send you the ones I have. I'll just have to get them from my GF's computer.
Legioss Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Is the VF-1R only in the Macross 2 RPG or is it in Macross 2?
Macrossnalds Worker Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 On 11/27/2003 at 8:54 AM, Yoshi said: MACROSS ETERNAL LOVE SONG – STORY INTRODUCTION (FIRST PART) More than 500,000 years ago, a stellar race possessing an advanced civilization called the Protoculture was prospering. However, a schism happened between the men and the women. And this situation finally degenerated into a war. They used their advanced technology to genetically engineer giant warriors devoted only to battles. The male giant warriors were called Zentradi and the female giant warriors were called Meltrandi. Both armies of giant warriors keep fighting, with terrible consequences. Many planets were destroyed, and the Protoculture, who had created these giant armies, were totally annihilated. However, the giant warriors, who had been programmed only to fight, were left without goals in life and keep fighting and spreading their war throughout the stars. Soooooo good! Feels like real Macross to me. Not wandering through space and encountering random space vampires and lobsters ala Star Trek. Just a bleak universe filled with endless war and mankind fighting for survival in it. I'm still devoted to the Big West canon, got me banned on here before but I can't deny it, I strongly dislike Kawamori hijacking the greatest show ever, it could have been so much more epic.
Seto Kaiba Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 Seriously? Necro-ing a thread that hasn't seen a reply in almost twenty years to whine? 13 minutes ago, Macrossnalds Worker said: Soooooo good! Feels like real Macross to me. Not wandering through space and encountering random space vampires and lobsters ala Star Trek. Just a bleak universe filled with endless war and mankind fighting for survival in it. I'm still devoted to the Big West canon, got me banned on here before but I can't deny it, I strongly dislike Kawamori hijacking the greatest show ever, it could have been so much more epic. The funny part is, the vague details of the ancient Protoculture's fall are about as dark as it ever gets... it's all uphill from there even in the Macross II: Lovers Again timeline these games belong to. In fact, this timeline's take is actually more optimistic than Kawamori's. In Kawamori's version, the Protoculture simply flee to their last strongholds on the edges of the galaxy and slowly go extinct. In this timeline, some of the Protoculture actually manage to escape the collapse of their civilization, learn from their mistakes, and make fresh starts elsewhere in the galaxy, with humanity being a product of one of those fresh starts. It's even implied that the Mardook in Macross II are a surviving group of Protoculture, who Earth's love songs inspire to find a lasting peace for themselves and appreciate other cultures instead of fearing them. (Hell, even Zentradi invasions aren't much of a threat after a while in this timeline. Quamzin's roaring rampage of revenge falls apart due to the intervention of a pair of fresh-out-of-the-academy cadets in Macross 2036 and the Zentradi "invasion" in Eternal Love Song is revealed in-story to basically be the Zentradi coming to hide behind humanity after biting off more than they could chew fighting a Meltrandi main fleet. After a while, the periodic rogue Zentradi attacks are demoted to little more than a recurring PR stunt for the Spacy, with the humans effortlessly rolling over the Zentradi invaders and adding shiploads of defectors to their forces every time.)
Bolt Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 54 minutes ago, Macrossnalds Worker said: I strongly dislike Kawamori hijacking the greatest show ever, it could have been so much more epic. Troll material
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