troyness Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Nice backdrop with your pic. !! I,ve done that wheelie pose with flightpose stands, it took 2 different sets with various length rods to do it, I also did a mid transformation wheelie pose( I think it,s page 4 to give you an idea) As far as the seat not "snapping" in (do you mean armor mode?..if so) that area,s a little tight on both my stick & ley versions, just gently wiggle it with downward pressure and it,ll slide towards the fuel tank. Edited August 3, 2011 by troyness Quote
m0n5t3r Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 Nice backdrop with your pic. !! I,ve done that wheelie pose with flightpose stands, it took 2 different sets with various length rods to do it, I also did a mid transformation wheelie pose( I think it,s page 4 to give you an idea) i was hoping somebody had done it with the included display stand. i'll just have to try it myself this weekend. As far as the seat not "snapping" in (do you mean armor mode?..if so) that area,s a little tight on both my stick & ley versions, just gently wiggle it with downward pressure and it,ll slide towards the fuel tank. yep, armor mode. i can actually push the back part of the seat in all the way, it just doesn't want to lock in place as shown in the instruction manual. it's not really a big deal since it's hardly noticeable. needless to say, i am loving these and it's amazing when you fully appreciate the ingenuity of the perfect transformation design. I hope somebody will mass produce the Rook/Houquet version. Quote
RD Blade Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 yep, armor mode. i can actually push the back part of the seat in all the way, it just doesn't want to lock in place as shown in the instruction manual. it's not really a big deal since it's hardly noticeable.If I'm remembering right, although the seat can be pushed all the way in, it's not supposed to go that far. The back part sliding in seems to compensate for the difference by covering part of the seat. You should be able to feel it loosely lock in place. Again, it's been awhile since I handled mine, so I could be off. Quote
danth Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 So I just got the CM Legioss & Tread. Holy f*ckballs is that Legioss a steaming pile of crap. I can't believe how much crap the weaboo purists gave the MPC Alpha considering what an ugly piece of sh*t the CM Legioss is. Talk about double standards. At least the Alpha looks pretty. Quote
jenius Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Ha, you mean one of these looks closer to the line art than the other? Quote
danth Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Not sure which way you're being sarcastic. Yes, the MPC looks much more like the lineart. Now post the same thing for fighter mode. Quote
jenius Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Just concurring is all. MPC has some issues too in fighter. - Quote
Jasonc Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Hahaha, it's like asking if you'd rather be kicked in the groin by a 5 year old, or punched in the groin by a 10 year old. either way, I don't think either outcome is great. I will say though, that CMs Drone fighter is awesome. I think that's the best out of all of em. Hmmm, I bet if you put the Gakken in there, that'd be the winner. Quote
DarrinG Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I've seen the CMs drone come way down in price but I'm still not buying. That fighter mode looks sooo bad - how did they ever let that go out the freaking door? And the Beta yellow things that stick way up in the air in fighter mode - and well, many other things I've seen in reviews... Interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/Garfish-Class-Robotech-Light-Cruiser-Wood-Model-Large-/390336892289?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae1e44d81#ht_3473wt_754 From the same folks as this I imagine - must big some big Robotech fan there with his own little wood-working shop: http://cgi.ebay.com/Macross-Gnerl-Fictional-Spacecraft-Wood-Model-Replica-/330427664433?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef060831#ht_2084wt_1098 Quote
danth Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I just realized that I didn't even list my main gripe about the CM Legioss. It's fighter mode is a floppy mess with absolutely no locking mechanisms anywhere. All the wings flop about with the slightest touch. The nose & cockpit won't sit flush with the rest of the jet. The arms & legs are completely free-floating. I should have expected this after the CM Mospeada -- although at least that toy felt like a failed effort instead of a total lack of trying. But yeah, I knew going into this that the CM Legioss looked funny. I just remember all the reviews saying it was a quality toy despite its goofy appearance. What a load of sh*t those reviews were. It's sloppy, floppy, gappy mess. Quote
DarrinG Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 CMs - huh, they're just plain wacked. I have the Mospeada riding figs and I'm very happy with those, especially since they have NO moving parts. Maybe they should stick with that kind of toy. The Galient figure I have from them the sculpt and accessories are fairly outstanding - but it crumbles at the slightest touch... Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) The nose & cockpit won't sit flush with the rest of the jet. Did you locked the forward fuselage section like it's shown in the instructions? There's a "certain way" to fold the metal hinge in order to lock the nose & cockpit down and be able to use the pegs from the lerx (after this you can actually hold the plane upside down by the nose and it doesn't disconnect). You are right about the legs and arms which are as you said, completely free-floating. I won't try to convince you about CM's design cause it's love it or hate it. In my case, I absolutely love CM's Legioss and find Toynami's interpretation awful. I guess we all have different tastes and standards I don't like the shape of the feet and legs of the toynami legioss (too thick and fat) and the shape of the cockpit and it's curved base of the frame are completely wrong. I do agree that CM's took a lot of liberties in the lineart department in fighter form. It's a pity that you didn't receive a toy according to your expectations and perceived value. Sorry for the poor cellphone pic (I'm at my office!), it's rock solid if it's locked right: Edited August 5, 2011 by Ignacio Ocamica Quote
Jasonc Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 If done right, the CMs hold decently in fighter. The legs are free floating, which isn't that great, but it's a good toy. I don't think it's worth the bang for the buck, but if you can find the drone for a good price, or even the dark Legioss, I think those are worth it. Ahhh, if only Yamato got into making these w/ a tread in 1/60 scale, I'd sell off all the Toynami ones to purchase those. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted August 6, 2011 Posted August 6, 2011 If done right, the CMs hold decently in fighter. The legs are free floating, which isn't that great, but it's a good toy. I don't think it's worth the bang for the buck, but if you can find the drone for a good price, or even the dark Legioss, I think those are worth it. Ahhh, if only Yamato got into making these w/ a tread in 1/60 scale, I'd sell off all the Toynami ones to purchase those. I have four drones and I'm contemplating to buy a fifth in ebay that is going for $50 Quote
m0n5t3r Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) I just transformed Rand's ride back to bike mode. I can't decide which is harder, transforming to armor mode or back to bike mode... but definitely satisfying once you lock in everything together. Edited August 13, 2011 by m0n5t3r Quote
derex3592 Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 I just transformed Rand's ride back to bike mode. I can't decide which is harder, transforming to armor mode or back to bike mode... but definitely satisfying once you lock in everything together. I have a problem getting the beam canon to "lock" into place in bike mode on Rands and I'm stumped...it kind of barely sits there and looks right, but I know when I got it it was actually secure....any help????? Quote
CoryHolmes Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 I just transformed Rand's ride back to bike mode. I can't decide which is harder, transforming to armor mode or back to bike mode... but definitely satisfying once you lock in everything together. I Rand's bike. My all-time favourite, if only it could have one of those forearm launchers from Scott's type... Quote
Mog Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 HEYYYY - A new mode for your Beta Fighter! Never seen before now... http://cgi.ebay.com/Toynami-Robotech-Masterpiece-Red-Beta-Fighter-/160627792927?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2566299c1f#ht_560wt_650 http://cgi.ebay.com/Toynami-Robotech-Masterpiece-Red-Beta-Fighter-/160627792927?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2566299c1f#ht_560wt_650 DWARF MODE ATTACK! Goodness! I guess that puts the number of known Beta modes up to FIVE. (The Fourth mode was BBM (Battloid Boner Mode). ). Quote
m0n5t3r Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) i managed to do a wheelie pose using whatever's included with the base stand. i'll be displaying it like this for a while. Edited August 15, 2011 by m0n5t3r Quote
Jasonc Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 i managed to do a wheelie pose using whatever's included with the base stand. i'll be displaying it like this for a while. Awesome poses. He looks like he's digging hard into riding that bike. Congrats on a great pose. Quote
Hiriyu Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 i managed to do a wheelie pose using whatever's included with the base stand. i'll be displaying it like this for a while. That's awesome. Innovative use of the stand! I'll have to do that one up myself. Quote
m0n5t3r Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 I have a problem getting the beam canon to "lock" into place in bike mode on Rands and I'm stumped...it kind of barely sits there and looks right, but I know when I got it it was actually secure....any help????? i also couldn't lock it in at first, but i tried again and it does lock in securely... just push it back in firmly and there's a click to know that its locked in. hope that helps. Quote
Tober Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Genesis Climber Mospeada AFC-01H Legioss Armo-Soldier 1/72 Plastic Model[WAVE] kit up for pre-order at Amiami. No pics yet. I haven't seen anything in any of the hobby mags either.. ? Quote
DarrinG Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 1/72 is not a tempting scale. But anxious to see the sculpt differences from theirs and the old IMAI kits... Quote
EXO Posted September 20, 2011 Author Posted September 20, 2011 I think it was discussed earlier that 1/72 would be super tiny for a legioss. That would be the equivalent in measurements to a 1/100 valk. It's a shame because they added new detail put in by Aramaki himself. Lol. I almost typed Kawamori. I'm interested in it though. It might be our best representation of a legioss yet. Quote
DarrinG Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Maybe they're giving themselves a little wiggle room in that they can do a Beta in Soldier and it won't be too big. Still - would rather them do something in the 1/48th / 155th range for many obvious reasons. A Inbit Scout or Trooper in 1/72 is micro - but 1/48th wouldn't be too bad and a definite buy... Quote
EXO Posted September 20, 2011 Author Posted September 20, 2011 A tread would be cool. From what I remember this is in soldier mode non transformable. It was due spring 2011. It's now fall. I wonder if they still have a whole line planned or they're just gonna release this one. Quote
DarrinG Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Yep - TREAD - sorry. That might talk me into getting into the line. They're come out with more and more if the Legioss and subsequent green and red versions sell well. Wave makes outstanding finished pieces, wish they would do this as a 1/55th WHAM figure... Quote
Uxi Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Really need some sort of hybrid between the Toynami and the CM's. I like how sturdy the CM's are, but like color, detail, and proportions of the Toynami better. Speaking of which, did the Shadow Beta ever come out? Quote
TheLoneWolf Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Speaking of which, did the Shadow Beta ever come out? Nope, the Shadow Beta never came out and I'm pretty sure it never will since the previous Betas sold poorly. Sadly, that's the one Beta that I was really hoping for since the Shadow Alpha is the only Alpha that I didn't sell off due to it's robustness. Quote
DarrinG Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 The Wave Legioss box art will be cool to see. Hard to believe a company is going to start a line from this show right now. We should be grateful and supportive! Quote
Uxi Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Is Wave planning a Tread? Nope, the Shadow Beta never came out and I'm pretty sure it never will since the previous Betas sold poorly. Sadly, that's the one Beta that I was really hoping for since the Shadow Alpha is the only Alpha that I didn't sell off due to it's robustness. Gah, that does suck. I have an Shade and a Greem Alpha. I also have the Green Beta. The arched back is the only thing I don't like about the Alpha, so I'll sometimes leave the front unlatched just to pretend. The Beta is pretty much perfect (and would be absolutely perfect if it had the shoulder missiles from the CM. I have the blue CMS set which looks nice except it's linkup sucks and the Beta is far smaller. Edited September 21, 2011 by Uxi Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 Can't wait for pics. I wonder how much detail they'll be able to cram in such a tiny scale tho', and I hope that means a mean looking Beta is underway too. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 Proportions and details are pretty good for this little guy!! Quote
DarrinG Posted September 21, 2011 Posted September 21, 2011 Nice - but not moved into a "Gotta Have It" state. Looks a little too crammed with detail - and those bumps on the feet / engines all the way around? Still - nice to see anything new from Mospeada. There will be a Tread if this flies off the shelves... Quote
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