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......never mind. I don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation.

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Arnold just had such a presence back then it's hard to separate him from Conan in my mind.

People come to these things for different reasons. For me, as a fan of the original literature, Arnold is NOT 'the' Conan... but I still think Milius's movie is one of the best fantasy movies ever, and I love it to death, and I can see why people are scratching their heads. So far, this looks a bit schizophrenic, but I will go and see it.

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People come to these things for different reasons. For me, as a fan of the original literature, Arnold is NOT 'the' Conan... but I still think Milius's movie is one of the best fantasy movies ever, and I love it to death, and I can see why people are scratching their heads. So far, this looks a bit schizophrenic, but I will go and see it.

See, I only know Conan from the movies. This thread does make me want to check out the books. Plus, I planned on giving the new Conan a chance.

I guess it's kind of like James Bond. The movies gave most people a different idea of the character than the books, so when the movies return to the source it upsets some of us a bit.

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See, I only know Conan from the movies. This thread does make me want to check out the books. Plus, I planned on giving the new Conan a chance.

I guess it's kind of like James Bond. The movies gave most people a different idea of the character than the books, so when the movies return to the source it upsets some of us a bit.

Well, I'm not sure folks are getting bent out of shape because the movie is returing to the source (books). It's just that nobody really envisioned Conan as a mascara wearing, metrosexual surfer with manicured facial hair. I haven't read the books, but did read some of the comics and this fruit-cake does not look like :

Conan-the-Barbarian.jpg

frank_frazetta_thebarbarian.jpg

It's true, Arnie wasn't a 100% accurate depiction of Conan either (too clean and not the right hair), but at least he had the bulk and a face that was sort of the right shape

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Well, I'm not sure folks are getting bent out of shape because the movie is returing to the source (books). It's just that nobody really envisioned Conan as a mascara wearing, metrosexual surfer with manicured facial hair. I haven't read the books, but did read some of the comics and this fruit-cake does not look like :

It's true, Arnie wasn't a 100% accurate depiction of Conan either (too clean and not the right hair), but at least he had the bulk and a face that was sort of the right shape

I more-or-less agree. I'm not a big fan of the movie, but (as I've said before) I really like the original Robert E. Howard stories (not so much the Lin Carter, L. Sprague DeCamp, and others who came later), and I don't see any connection between this new movie and the stories.

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Funny... I've read an interview with Jason Momoa a few weeks back about the new Conan movie, and am just rewatching Atlantis season two. Hadn't made the link though.... Probably because he looks a whole lot different as Conan compared to his character Ronon Dex in Stargate Atlantis.

This is how he looks now: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/jason-momoa-shows-the-bulk-of-conan.php

If you ask me, pretty close to more than a few of the drawings shown above.

Still, I look forward to this movie. And, well, face it. The first movie was pretty good mainly because of James Earl Jones, Max von Sydow and Sandahl Bergman. The second movie just sucked.

BTW, anyone would make a guess as to which actress will play Red Sonja in the remake? This Is still a rumour, but I'm pretty sure that will recieve a remake as well. Brigitte Nielsen was, well, okay... But as I'm know reading the new Red Sonja graphic novels, they could do better.

Just hope they don't cast Halle Berry or something... They already screwed that up casting her as Ororo Munroe (Storm) in the X-Men trilogy.... Talking about degrading a character.... :angry: :angry:

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It's just that nobody really envisioned Conan as a mascara wearing, metrosexual surfer with manicured facial hair.

I didn't see any 'manicured facial hair' on Conan in either of the trailers. It doesn't look like he has any facial hair at all in the trailers. Or mascara for that matter. Momoa's not perfect, but neither was Arnie. Like any literary figure though, everyone will have their own interpretations. I'm just happy that we are getting a new Conan movie with a little money behind it.

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Funny... I've read an interview with Jason Momoa a few weeks back about the new Conan movie, and am just rewatching Atlantis season two. Hadn't made the link though.... Probably because he looks a whole lot different as Conan compared to his character Ronon Dex in Stargate Atlantis.

This is how he looks now: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/jason-momoa-shows-the-bulk-of-conan.php

If you ask me, pretty close to more than a few of the drawings shown above.

Still, I look forward to this movie. And, well, face it. The first movie was pretty good mainly because of James Earl Jones, Max von Sydow and Sandahl Bergman. The second movie just sucked.

BTW, anyone would make a guess as to which actress will play Red Sonja in the remake? This Is still a rumour, but I'm pretty sure that will recieve a remake as well. Brigitte Nielsen was, well, okay... But as I'm know reading the new Red Sonja graphic novels, they could do better.

Just hope they don't cast Halle Berry or something... They already screwed that up casting her as Ororo Munroe (Storm) in the X-Men trilogy.... Talking about degrading a character.... :angry: :angry:

Pretty sure they are done filming bro. It comes out in a month.

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Just hope they don't cast Halle Berry or something... They already screwed that up casting her as Ororo Munroe (Storm) in the X-Men trilogy.... Talking about degrading a character.... :angry: :angry:

Hey, what you got against Halle? Okay, sure--it was a piss poor casting choice. Alright, given--she seems to have some serious man/relationship issues. But Got Dayum, she is one beautiful woman. Positively MILF-tastic...

Meh, all this pre-movie hype serves to do is make me wanna go out and rent Beastmaster, and bask in its superiority to this big-budget garbage.

LOL, now that would make a funny a$$ .gif: Marc Singer and Arnie, bitch-slapping this new barbarian-wannabe with some fur pelts

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Hey, what you got against Halle? Okay, sure--it was a piss poor casting choice. Alright, given--she seems to have some serious man/relationship issues. But Got Dayum, she is one beautiful woman. Positively MILF-tastic...

Meh, all this pre-movie hype serves to do is make me wanna go out and rent Beastmaster, and bask in its superiority to this big-budget garbage.

LOL, now that would make a funny a$$ .gif: Marc Singer and Arnie, bitch-slapping this new barbarian-wannabe with some fur pelts

I only see Halle Berry and Fur Pelt...

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LOL, you paint a pretty picture.

Meh, I'd rather watch this instead of that new Conan bozo...

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81563948/

Thank you SO much for that. My day is better now.

I am going out to a night club tonight, I am going to walk up to people and tell them: Crom laughs at your four-winds.

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Most reviews are now up, and it certainly looks like a stinker. Something like 22% on Rotten Tomatoes. Ironically, the choice for Conan is one of the few things I've seen praised.

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Thank you SO much for that. My day is better now.

I am going out to a night club tonight, I am going to walk up to people and tell them: Crom laughs at your four-winds.

Hehe, I want a t-shirt with that printed on it: "Crom laughs at your Four-Winds." <_<

Original Conan aired on AMC(?) last night. Just reminded me of why I won't be spending my $$$ on seeing that new garbage in the theaters.

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I heard about that a while ago. Supposed to be something along those lines.

I think the literal translation involves violating the women of your enemies. That is cooler.

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Well, I'm not sure folks are getting bent out of shape because the movie is returing to the source (books). It's just that nobody really envisioned Conan as a mascara wearing, metrosexual surfer with manicured facial hair. I haven't read the books, but did read some of the comics and this fruit-cake does not look like :

Conan-the-Barbarian.jpg

frank_frazetta_thebarbarian.jpg

It's true, Arnie wasn't a 100% accurate depiction of Conan either (too clean and not the right hair), but at least he had the bulk and a face that was sort of the right shape

Can't beat Frezetta. I read an article in the Houston Comical (Chronicle) that it was his artwork that inspired Conan's actor for this role.

I haven't read of any of Howard's works, but isn't Conan a disciple of Sun Tsu (tactically speaking, that is; I know he worships Crom)?

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See, I only know Conan from the movies. This thread does make me want to check out the books. Plus, I planned on giving the new Conan a chance.

I guess it's kind of like James Bond. The movies gave most people a different idea of the character than the books, so when the movies return to the source it upsets some of us a bit.

Same here. Arnie is the only Conan I know, and the only version I acknowledge.

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Huh?

The law should be written so that kind of obvious money-grubbing is highly punished. SLM had all of the time in the world to bring attention to this but, of course, waited until after the film is released.

I call shenanigans!

The stories are public domain. The fact that someone can claim the character at all is beyond me. Next thing you know, someone will claim exclusive rights to King Arthur or Jesus.

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Saw this movie..

If it had been called "Steve the Barbarian" I would think it was just a crummy movie, with porn level acting, but as I feared and expressed earlier in this thread, this tarnishes the name of Conan. Total crap movie. Now we will never have Arnold in the franchise again. So pissed.

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Saw this movie..

If it had been called "Steve the Barbarian" I would think it was just a crummy movie, with porn level acting, but as I feared and expressed earlier in this thread, this tarnishes the name of Conan. Total crap movie. Now we will never have Arnold in the franchise again. So pissed.

Please tell me you watched a cam, and didn't give them any of your money. If you walked into a theatre and actually paid money to see this, I will have lost what little respect I had left of you. Crom and Arnold cry for you Agent One - the fallen warrior.

Well, we can always hope for an enitirely CG Conan to be made one day, with Arnold's likeness.

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