Gubaba Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 http://sdf25tournament.blogspot.com/ C'mon people...we all know the Monster could defeat Rick F%ckin' Hunter, don't we?
Seto Kaiba Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 That picture is...just so mind numbingly bad. I'm getting a headache just looking at it. You're not the only one... that is one atrocious piece of fan art. What the hell was that person thinking? Is that pic supposed to be a rendition of real actors portraying Macross characters? If so, it's more reason why a LAM could = epic fail. Agreed on that being one of the ugliest pics I've seen of the characters. The art style isn't so bad though. It certainly seems that way... Of course, things being the way they are in the Robotech franchise it's a fairly safe bet that we'll never run short or reasons to define any new Robotech project in the works as a good try at redefining "epic failure". The breathtaking idiocy of Harmony Gold's creative staff and the increasing inanity of what we can only laughingly call Robotech's "story" guarantee that without any extra help. With the only saga of the "original 85" that the fans actually care about beyond Harmony Gold's reach, any attempt to expand upon the Robotech universe is destined to fail anyway. There's just no way to make the fans give a toss. The only sure-fire way to make sure Robotech stories will sell is to fall back on what the old comics did, and continue peddling Macross Saga side-stories until they finally exhaust the appeal of the saga and the fans lose interest. Speaking of epic failure, there's a few funny rumors doing the rounds lately concerning the live action Robotech movie. I've got no idea how accurate these are, but they're so outlandish that they bear repeating... particularly since they allegedly come from loudmouth suck-ups who are close to Tommy Yune. The first is that Warner's option for a live-action Robotech flick has a fairly short fuse... and that Warner has until September 15 to decide whether or not they want to move forward with actually making the movie. The other rumor going around was that Tommy Yune wants to distance Robotech from the "original 85" using his "Shadow Saga" and possibly the live-action movie, essentially leaving the old fans high and dry. I'll let you all know if I can get some corroboration on these, so consider them food for thought for now...
taksraven Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 The first is that Warner's option for a live-action Robotech flick has a fairly short fuse... and that Warner has until September 15 to decide whether or not they want to move forward with actually making the movie. I think that EVERYTHING in Hollywood has a short fuse these days, so this would be no surprise to me at all. Does Sept 15 have any significance in regards to when WB came onboard. (would it be the two-year anniversary of when the LAM deal was signed/announced, whatever.......) The only thing that doesn't make sense about that date being the end of the line for the LAM if it doesn't get the go-ahead is that I find it hard to imagine that WB would be willing to toss its garbage over its shoulder, only to have it picked up by somebody else and then made into a film. Is it at all possible that WB also has the rights to some other similar franchise involving transforming/giant robots. Is it possible that there is a rival project within WB itself and they have the two playing off against each other to see which one gets made. A bet each way maybe?? The other rumor going around was that Tommy Yune wants to distance Robotech from the "original 85" using his "Shadow Saga" and possibly the live-action movie, essentially leaving the old fans high and dry. I'll let you all know if I can get some corroboration on these, so consider them food for thought for now... You could clearly see that that was the type of shite they were trying to pull in the Shadow Chronicles, by introducing the bad guy that HG owns entirely, so this possibility would not surprise me at all. Taksraven
azrael Posted April 2, 2010 Author Posted April 2, 2010 I think that EVERYTHING in Hollywood has a short fuse these days, so this would be no surprise to me at all. Does Sept 15 have any significance in regards to when WB came onboard. (would it be the two-year anniversary of when the LAM deal was signed/announced, whatever.......) Actually, it would be 3 years. They picked it up in 2007. The only thing that doesn't make sense about that date being the end of the line for the LAM if it doesn't get the go-ahead is that I find it hard to imagine that WB would be willing to toss its garbage over its shoulder, only to have it picked up by somebody else and then made into a film. Is it at all possible that WB also has the rights to some other similar franchise involving transforming/giant robots. Is it possible that there is a rival project within WB itself and they have the two playing off against each other to see which one gets made. A bet each way maybe?? It won't be the first time a studio has lost the rights to something and someone else picked it up. Look at Watchmen. It went from Fox, to Universal, to Paramount, and finally to WB before it got made. WB may just put the LAM in turnaround. You could clearly see that that was the type of shite they were trying to pull in the Shadow Chronicles, by introducing the bad guy that HG owns entirely, so this possibility would not surprise me at all. Agreed. That's the whole point of RT:SC. They wanted to create their own work so that they won't have to keep catering to a bunch of 30-40 year-olds whose chance of watching this stuff was really low. I don't think it's been any secret that the LAM is suppose to be the tent-pole for the "new" RT series that suppose to draw in new fans and whatnot.
Einherjar Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) Agreed. That's the whole point of RT:SC. They wanted to create their own work so that they won't have to keep catering to a bunch of 30-40 year-olds whose chance of watching this stuff was really low. I don't think it's been any secret that the LAM is suppose to be the tent-pole for the "new" RT series that suppose to draw in new fans and whatnot. I don't think those 30-40 year old have gotten it yet, even after 3-4 years. Edited April 2, 2010 by Einherjar
HappyPenguins Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) The photocopy, yes. And if they decide to use it as the black hole that Rick Hunter falls into, then you can't demand any payment or credit for the use of your arse. LOL! Agreed. That's the whole point of RT:SC. They wanted to create their own work so that they won't have to keep catering to a bunch of 30-40 year-olds whose chance of watching this stuff was really low. I don't think it's been any secret that the LAM is suppose to be the tent-pole for the "new" RT series that suppose to draw in new fans and whatnot. I don't have a problem with them creating their own work, I just have a problem with it sucking and ending up being a piece of crap that we're forced to accept as a continuity of any sorts. Edited April 2, 2010 by HappyPenguins
areaseven Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 You're not the only one... that is one atrocious piece of fan art. What the hell was that person thinking? Ah, you forget - thinking is something most RT fans aren't capable of doing.
Seto Kaiba Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Ah, you forget - thinking is something most RT fans aren't capable of doing. Yeah, you've got me there... thinking is definitely not the strong suit of your average Robotech fan. If it was, they wouldn't be Robotech fans. They'd have jumped ship to another franchise ages ago.
Jasonc Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I don't have a problem with them creating their own work, I just have a problem with it sucking and ending up being a piece of crap that we're forced to accept as a continuity of any sorts. Agreed. Although, I've never had the feeling of having to accept it as continuity. I've seen enough anime to run into shows and series that weren't great in design, or CG, or even animation, but the story was there, and it was still very enjoyable. I've also seen anime that didn't have the greatest of stories, but the animation and animatography was awesome. Even that is fun to watch. RTSC had neither, so even with the bad budget, there's no excuse for it being so bad. Ah, you forget - thinking is something most RT fans aren't capable of doing. I wouldn't say most fans, just the more vocal ones. The thinking of those few have been so warped and skewed, that you have to wonder if they even are able to think for themselves in anything else. People hanging off of every word HG says like life depends on it is just stupid. I also find it funny that anyone who has questions, or doubts about if HG is really doing anything is always asked by the RT fanatics to "back up your statement", yet when HG has no way, or refuses to backup their "facts", it's taken at face value. That's the kind of "thinking" that makes me laugh every time. If I had an account over there, I'd ask that, but then again, they read here everyday, so I'm sure that's a question they'll "gracefully skip".
Moly_Sigang Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Bah, even if WB decide to not push through with the RTLAM, HG will just probably go back to making crappy Robotech sequels Tommy Yune's fanfiction stories.
taksraven Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Bah, even if WB decide to not push through with the RTLAM, HG will just probably go back to making crappy Robotech sequels Tommy Yune's fanfiction stories. Nah, I think that the Shadow Chronicles can be seen as the last throw of the dice for HG in regards to RT. I think that it played an instrumental role in helping them secure the interest of WB in the LAM (Who approached who, do we know? Did HG shop this stuff to WB, or was it the fact that Tobey knew about RT?) If the LAM does happen, we will probably see more Robotech in some soft of format, if it doesn't happen, I think that RT is effectively dead and buried, apart from more crappy merchandise..... Taksraven
Einherjar Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Are you sure HG did not sell out Robotech for some of WB's money and resources?
Beltane70 Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I'm pretty sure that we won't ever see the RLAM come to fruition. If it does, I expect it to go straight to video.
HappyPenguins Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I'm pretty sure that we won't ever see the RLAM come to fruition. If it does, I expect it to go straight to video. lol come on, that ship has sailed a long time ago, that movie is dead in the water. WB had their chance and they wasted all their time hiring some crappy writers with a history of poo who couldn't even finish the script. Why would they even waste their time with a straight to DVD release? I say it's a done deal, there isn't going to be a movie.
UN_MARINE Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I can't help thinking... Is the lack of a completed script the fault of the writers they brought aboard for the RLAM, or is it because the RT story itself is so incoherent and confusing that all the writers couldn't make anything good with it?
taksraven Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I can't help thinking... Is the lack of a completed script the fault of the writers they brought aboard for the RLAM, or is it because the RT story itself is so incoherent and confusing that all the writers couldn't make anything good with it? A little from column A, a little from column B...... Taksraven
Jasonc Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 A little from column A, a little from column B...... Taksraven Who knows, probably just garbage writing, even from the big name writers. I've heard stories of some of them just writing something to get paid, especially if it's something they don't necessarily want to work on. What's funny is that HG still boasts thes writers as "still working on the LAM", which they probably turned out some incoherent garbage, got a fat paycheck, then went on their merry way. That's probably why they went with a no namer. Maybe he may actually care about it. Still, it's been stuck in preprod hell, and after seeing Clash of the Titans, looks like Hades himself is gonna keep that thing where it belongs.
Seto Kaiba Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 People hanging off of every word HG says like life depends on it is just stupid. I also find it funny that anyone who has questions, or doubts about if HG is really doing anything is always asked by the RT fanatics to "back up your statement", yet when HG has no way, or refuses to backup their "facts", it's taken at face value. Granted, it is phenomenally stupid of the fans to hang on Harmony Gold's every word to convince themselves the franchise isn't dead, but you'll find that the fans who are still trying to pretend the franchise isn't dead are, as a rule, phenomenally stupid people. For the most vocal fans, levels of literacy seem to be inversely proportional to their faith in Harmony Gold's creative team. On the one end of the spectrum you've got JT, the reasonably intelligent and well-spoken everyman who knows only too well that Harmony Gold's creative team is marginally less competent than a troop of ten-thumbed howler monkeys suffering from paranoid dementia. On the other side, you've got your MEMOs, your Mavericks, and your dougbendos... people whose functional illiteracy and total inability to recognize simple patterns or comprehend basic logic leaves their posts unintelligible, and who genuinely think that Carl Macek and Tommy Yune are the greatest cinematic geniuses of the modern age. One day, in a brighter future than we have now, believing that the Robotech franchise is capable of producing quality products will be grounds for getting sectioned. Nah, I think that the Shadow Chronicles can be seen as the last throw of the dice for HG in regards to RT. I think that it played an instrumental role in helping them secure the interest of WB in the LAM (Who approached who, do we know? Did HG shop this stuff to WB, or was it the fact that Tobey knew about RT?) Pretty much my take on things too... By any realistic standard, Robotech: the Shadow Chronicles was Harmony Gold's last real chance to breathe some life back into the Robotech franchise... and it failed miserably. It failed to even briefly capture the attention of the stated target audience, and only succeeded in irritating many of the more discerning fans with another low-quality false-start. Now that they've pinned all their hopes on the live-action movie, the odds of ever seeing Tommy continue his little fanwank called Shadow Chronicles are pretty slim. I'm pretty sure that we won't ever see the RLAM come to fruition. If it does, I expect it to go straight to video. Honestly, I have to agree with HP on this note. That ship sailed a looooooooong time ago. In the two years since the announcement that Maguire Entertainment had acquired the rights to make a live-action Robotech movie, nothing has happened. Writers have come and gone, producers have come and then moved on to projects that actually stand a chance, and all without so much as a working draft of the script. I feel fairly safe in saying that it's a 99.9% chance that we won't see any kind of live-action Robotech movie unless it's a fan production. In the extremely unlikely event that Warner does decide to move forward with it, it will probably end up as a direct-to-DVD release... albeit one so bad as to make G-Saviour look good by comparison.
areaseven Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Well, I've added a synopsis to the new . Thanks to Moly_Sigang for the story suggestion. Damn, we should all be hired by HG for their script writing staff.
Einherjar Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) Another name to add to the Robotech LAM bandwagon: Sylvain White. http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_conte...&Itemid=171 Robotech is saved! Edited April 4, 2010 by Einherjar
Gubaba Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Another name to add to the Robotech LAM bandwagon: Sylvain White. http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_conte...&Itemid=171 Robotech is saved! I have to admit...I really want to read that script.
Seto Kaiba Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Another name to add to the Robotech LAM bandwagon: Sylvain White. Another talentless hack potentially joins the Robotech live-action movie debacle... For those too lazy to look up his IMDB profile, Mr. Sylvain White's directorial credits include (or to be precise, consist entirely of) The Losers, Stomp the Yard, I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer, Trois 3: the Escort, and Quiet. The highest rating any movie of his has received is a 5.3 out of a possible 10.
Einherjar Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 The career of Sylvian White, for those interested: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1234893/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvain_White Is it just me, or does his work experience seem small?
Gubaba Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 The career of Sylvian White, for those interested: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1234893/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvain_White Is it just me, or does his work experience seem small? Inexperienced? For a MASSIVELY POPULAR TENTPOLE FRANCHISE THAT MILLIONS ARE CLAMORING FOR??? Hell, look what the man did with another AWESOMELY INSANELY MEGABLOCKBUSTER FRANCHISE: the "I Know What You Did Last Summer" trilogy of terror! The third one was so definitive and so mind-blowing that they never made a fourth one! (Actually, I have to give "I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer" credit: the twist ending was SO unexpected and SO out of left field that I gasped at the audaciousness of it.)
Einherjar Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) I didn't know they made a third "I know What You Did Last Summer." Oh well, milk this as far you can usual suspects. I'll help you out. http://www.latinoreview.com/news/reader-re...the-losers-9182 Edited April 4, 2010 by Einherjar
HappyPenguins Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Another talentless hack potentially joins the Robotech live-action movie debacle... For those too lazy to look up his IMDB profile, Mr. Sylvain White's directorial credits include (or to be precise, consist entirely of) The Losers, Stomp the Yard, I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer, Trois 3: the Escort, and Quiet. The highest rating any movie of his has received is a 5.3 out of a possible 10. well he'll fit right in with the rest of the bunch
taksraven Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 I didn't know they made a third "I know What You Did Last Summer." I think that Jennifer Love Hewitts breasts had moved on by that point. Taksraven
Gubaba Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) I think that Jennifer Love Hewitts breasts had moved on by that point. Taksraven The third movie was so insanely mind-blowingly awesome that it didn't even NEED Jennifer Love Hewitt OR her breasts in order to rocket skyward to the rarified world of DIRECT-TO_DVD RELEASES!!! (In other words, she wasn't in it.) Edited April 4, 2010 by Gubaba
Seto Kaiba Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 well he'll fit right in with the rest of the bunch Oh, definitely... but let's remember that this mook hasn't signed on with the good ship Titanic Robotech, so he might not be joining the rest of the idiot brigade in their march to shame and oblivion. I think that Jennifer Love Hewitts breasts had moved on by that point. Hopefully accompanied by the rest of her... though in this age of implants, who can tell?
Einherjar Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 I have to admit...I really want to read that script. I bet there wasn't a script, just a wad of cash and goading about the career opportunities for it. Like the trend of people getting involved in adaptations, they were "fans" of the originals.
Robelwell202 Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) I bet there wasn't a script, just a wad of cash and goading about the career opportunities for it. The McKeever/MaverickLSC translation of the above sentence would be: "It's still locked up in pre-production. I can't say anything about it, but it's deffinitely going forward!" -K. McKeever Edited April 4, 2010 by Robelwell202
azrael Posted April 4, 2010 Author Posted April 4, 2010 Best part of the article: He admitted he is interested, but was quick to point out the project hasn't been greenlit yet. Remember how I said scripts can sit at a studio and not move...So he hasn't agreed nor is the project greenlit. That would be like a friend at Big-Name-Corp telling me of a possible project that I might be interested in joining, but Big-Name-Corp hasn't posted a job listing for. Good Grief. Obviously, there must be some kind of screenplay floating out there if someone has been approached for this franchise.
taksraven Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Maybe the enemy in the possible screenplay are called "Robotechs" and the good guys are called "veritechs", or vice versa. Taksraven
HappyPenguins Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Best part of the article: Remember how I said scripts can sit at a studio and not move...So he hasn't agreed nor is the project greenlit. That would be like a friend at Big-Name-Corp telling me of a possible project that I might be interested in joining, but Big-Name-Corp hasn't posted a job listing for. Good Grief. Obviously, there must be some kind of screenplay floating out there if someone has been approached for this franchise. That isn't stopping memo and co from celebrating.... http://www.robotech.com/community/forum/re...&forumid=31 yeah, they don't seem to care who it is or understand that the LAM isn't greenlit so it's not moving forward...
DrStrangelove Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 yeah, they don't seem to care who it is or understand that the LAM isn't greenlit so it's not moving forward... BUT MEMO ESTIMATES IT WILL BE GREENLIT SHORTLY, and they used some one with dramatic expiernce so it dont suck like transformers
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