peroliza Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 7 hours ago, leonhardt said: Oh I know that he's busy and stuff. What I meant was that I can't access/search the manga from the app or website anymore and always receive the 404 error when I open a link to the manga. So I was wondering if maybe something happened between Cycomi and Mikimoto-san or maybe my pc is just acting up (I tried it for a few days already though). That's what I meant when I asked what happened to the manga Hello. The manga was delisted from the Cycomi web site; does not appear at the page anymore. A bad signal in my opinion. Regards Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, peroliza said: Hello. The manga was delisted from the Cycomi web site; does not appear at the page anymore. A bad signal in my opinion. Regards Yeah, no reason given... and thus fodder for a lot of wild theorizing. Some fans are speculating it may have something to do with The-Show-That-Must-Not-Be-Named now that Macross is expanding into territories like China, the EU, and UK. Others are wondering if Cycomi lost the license because they don't have the infrastructure to localize and distribute the manga outside of Japan. Still others are wondering if Cycomi lost patience with Mikimoto's inability to deliver on time and dropped the manga themselves. Quote
peroliza Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Yeah, no reason given... and thus fodder for a lot of wild theorizing. Some fans are speculating it may have something to do with The-Show-That-Must-Not-Be-Named now that Macross is expanding into territories like China, the EU, and UK. That would be very bad news, right? 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Others are wondering if Cycomi lost the license because they don't have the infrastructure to localize and distribute the manga outside of Japan. Hmm, interesting. I have the feeling that Cycomi slowly withdraw its support from the manga. When rebooted, the web page allowed comments from readers from all around the world, then it was restricted, if I remember correctly, to Japanese users. Then, the app was only available to mobile devices in Japan... then stopped it for 6 months... and then this... looks like a slow death, step by step... Hope I am wrong 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Still others are wondering if Cycomi lost patience with Mikimoto's inability to deliver on time and dropped the manga themselves. That would be very sad. I think a lot of readers were disappointed waiting for a year for an update and having the manga stopped at the same point as before; no progress in the story. Regards Quote
JB0 Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Still others are wondering if Cycomi lost patience with Mikimoto's inability to deliver on time and dropped the manga themselves. Seems the most likely answer to me. Quote
Dynaman Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 Nothing new in over a year - I would guess they just gave up on it too. I wonder why they would delete it from the site entirely though. Keeping an electronic version accessible is a paltry sum if nobody looks at the pages anyway. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 6 hours ago, JB0 said: Seems the most likely answer to me. 1 hour ago, Dynaman said: Nothing new in over a year - I would guess they just gave up on it too. I wonder why they would delete it from the site entirely though. Keeping an electronic version accessible is a paltry sum if nobody looks at the pages anyway. Yeah, that's kinda the direction I'm leaning as well. Macross the First is a beautiful manga, but Mikimoto's unwillingness or inability to deliver new chapters on time and on a regular basis must be incredibly frustrating for his publishers. Never mind how annoying it must be for an outfit that depends on weekly (or monthly) visits from readers for ad revenue. Macross is probably not a cheap license either, so having a Macross manga that was re-releasing old material immediately go on hiatus after running out of old material probably feels like not getting their value for money. As I understand it, manga publication's a pretty cutthroat field... you can barely get away with letter the author of your hot title take a month or two off, but disappearing for a year-plus just gets you cancelled. Quote
Marzan Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Yeah, that's kinda the direction I'm leaning as well. Macross the First is a beautiful manga, but Mikimoto's unwillingness or inability to deliver new chapters on time and on a regular basis must be incredibly frustrating for his publishers. Never mind how annoying it must be for an outfit that depends on weekly (or monthly) visits from readers for ad revenue. Macross is probably not a cheap license either, so having a Macross manga that was re-releasing old material immediately go on hiatus after running out of old material probably feels like not getting their value for money. As I understand it, manga publication's a pretty cutthroat field... you can barely get away with letter the author of your hot title take a month or two off, but disappearing for a year-plus just gets you cancelled. Your manga has to be very popular or have a sizeable captive audience ...cough...Kentaro Miura...cough.. to get away with those kinds of breaks. Quote
Jedi Dark Knight Posted November 21, 2020 Posted November 21, 2020 I found out about this too late and can't find the remake of the cycomi edition anywhere....so sad, the art was nice! Quote
Tochiro Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 Well Mikimoto did come out and say publicly that he was prepared and ready to continue but that the decision to not go ahead came from elsewhere. Either way, it’s a shame. Quote
Beltane70 Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 Too bad that he couldn’t have it self published. Quote
Fortress_Maximus Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 So just to recap, Mikimoto is the bottleneck in the production and not the other areas involved? If so, can others share how many other titles has he been unable to deliver in a timely manner that resulted in it getting cancelled? He does not seem to be able to adhere to a strict publishing schedule. Sidenote, agreed unless you are Kentaro Miura, you probably cannot get away with such unreliable work product and your title gets canned. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Fortress_Maximus said: So just to recap, Mikimoto is the bottleneck in the production and not the other areas involved? Yup. 2 hours ago, Fortress_Maximus said: If so, can others share how many other titles has he been unable to deliver in a timely manner that resulted in it getting cancelled? He does not seem to be able to adhere to a strict publishing schedule. Dunno if any other projects of his have been cancelled due to delays, but his latest artbook is now something like 3.5 years overdue. 2 hours ago, Fortress_Maximus said: Sidenote, agreed unless you are Kentaro Miura, you probably cannot get away with such unreliable work product and your title gets canned. Well, it all depends on how tolerant your publisher is and how much industry cred you can bank on. Quote
jvmacross Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: ...but his latest artbook is now something like 3.5 years overdue. The book is surely now at least 3 times as thick as Kawamori's Designer's Note.....they are trying to figure out where to find more trees... Quote
Fortress_Maximus Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Hot damn 3.5 years OVERDUE? Mikimoto is popular but not Miura and Takahashi popular. Both of those mangakas have a good support team too so they can and do meet deadlines (Miura as slow as he is is still faster than Mikimoto). Quote
Dynaman Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 Mikimoto and Martin should collaborate on something - it really and truly makes no difference what it is. Quote
lavinrac Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Pulled some Macross’ the First volumes off the shelf yesterday and today. They are gorgeous, and annoyingly incomplete.. i have all 6 physical volumes, i was irritated to find they were rebooted without even finishing a first time around… what got me to get them off the shelf was some very wishful thinking as i am rewatching SDF Macross. I decided to rewatch THIS time with the english dub just to check it out, but I took the blu rays and dvds and replaced that crummy dvd film grain video with the nice 1080p, did a bit of combining in Premiere and the result is not bad. As i age (48) im less actively hostile toward dubbing.. ANYHOW.. its so clear that every other episode or so was farmed out to be poorly drawn and Mikimoto’s character designs are not faithfully recreated in threes Eps at all… which got me to look again, wistfully, at what did get completed of ‘The First’ So the wishful thinking was that someday someone would truly remaster the tv show, like by carefully fixing everything, redrawing the bad stuff with the exact same look as the original.. 36 episodes of Ai Wa Nagareru or Pine Salad quality! (Think Like the grassroots Star Wars Despecialized Edition kind of project.. if i were 20 I’d probably try to do it myself! (I was going to be an illustrator but ended up in graphic design, then IT) … if anyone noticed sell it to that American company we all love haha. ) That is what got me looking at The First again.. ah well, will never happen. And anime character design has turned a corner, mostly into styles I dont like. Even Mikimoto, while getting even more skill.. has still changed to characters with less softness whose nose tips are sharp enough to cut glass in these modern manga versions. At least he still put lots details in. As a kid, one of the attractive thing about Macross was how realistic the story seemed compared to normal American TV fare, and his character designs looked more like regular people than all the superheroes and such. Wow, i didnt mean to write an essay. Maybe ill copy it into a post on facebook and other old timers car reminisce too. Continuing this discussion would very way off the topic of the manga. I’m assuming that Macross the First is truly dead by now and will not be finished. Someone know different?? Edited October 6, 2021 by lavinrac Quote
peter Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, lavinrac said: Pulled some Macross’ the First volumes off the shelf yesterday and today. They are gorgeous, and annoyingly incomplete.. i have all 6 physical volumes, i was irritated to find they were rebooted without even finishing a first time around… what got me to get them off the shelf was some very wishful thinking as i am rewatching SDF Macross. I decided to rewatch THIS time with the english dub just to check it out, but I took the blu rays and dvds and replaced that crummy dvd film grain video with the nice 1080p, did a bit of combining in Premiere and the result is not bad. As i age (48) im less actively hostile toward dubbing.. ANYHOW.. its so clear that every other episode or so was farmed out to be poorly drawn and Mikimoto’s character designs are not faithfully recreated in threes Eps at all… which got me to look again, wistfully, at what did get completed of ‘The First’ So the wishful thinking was that someday someone would truly remaster the tv show, like by carefully fixing everything, redrawing the bad stuff with the exact same look as the original.. 36 episodes of Ai Wa Nagareru or Pine Salad quality! (Think Like the grassroots Star Wars Despecialized Edition kind of project.. if i were 20 I’d probably try to do it myself! (I was going to be an illustrator but ended up in graphic design, then IT) … if anyone noticed sell it to that American company we all love haha. ) That is what got me looking at The First again.. ah well, will never happen. And anime character design has turned a corner, mostly into styles I dont like. Even Mikimoto, while getting even more skill.. has still changed to characters with less softness whose nose tips are sharp enough to cut glass in these modern manga versions. At least he still put lots details in. As a kid, one of the attractive thing about Macross was how realistic the story seemed compared to normal American TV fare, and his character designs looked more like regular people than all the superheroes and such. Wow, i didnt mean to write an essay. Maybe ill copy it into a post on facebook and other old timers car reminisce too. Continuing this discussion would very way off the topic of the manga. I’m assuming that Macross the First is truly dead by now and will not be finished. Someone know different?? It will probably done by a fan before it gets done officially. I would love to see MFirst animated. I would love to see the folks that did the Pachinko cut scenes redo the entirety of SDFM. It would be awesome if they took DYRL designs and completely redid SDFM with them. Anyway, just my ramblings. Quote
Bolt Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Everyone is bummed about no more Macross the 1st. Except, maybe, Mikimoto san..😑 At least we got some cool , updated designs and additional back story to Max..🤙 Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I wouldn't mind if Bandai will tackle a DX version of a VF-1J "Macross The First" Ver. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: I wouldn't mind if Bandai will tackle a DX version of a VF-1J "Macross The First" Ver. seconded... Actually....still waiting for some entrepreneur to sell a MtF VF-1D head unit on Shapeways.....perhaps now in both 1/60 and DX sizes? Quote
lavinrac Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) If anyone knows where some translations are, let me know. I will send you a dated photo of me holding my paid for physical copies. Feel free to scold/delete this post if its out of line. Edited October 6, 2021 by lavinrac Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 59 minutes ago, jvmacross said: seconded... Actually....still waiting for some entrepreneur to sell a MtF VF-1D head unit on Shapeways.....perhaps now in both 1/60 and DX sizes? It would be awesome if @Kurisama can update his 1/60 Shapeway to a DX size. Quote
troyness Posted July 28 Posted July 28 Does anyone know the print run numbers for MTF volumes? Couldn't seem to find it on Wikipedia. I'm assuming that it would be a low print number as it was in Japanese compared to 10's of millions if it had been printed in english? .... hoping for "low" print as a long-term investment. Quote
Knight26 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 On 10/6/2021 at 11:12 AM, jvmacross said: seconded... Actually....still waiting for some entrepreneur to sell a MtF VF-1D head unit on Shapeways.....perhaps now in both 1/60 and DX sizes? Well minivalks (can't remember his username here) aka Michael Ryan, did create some MTF heads for his 3D printable valks. https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/vf-1-valkyrie-battroid-mode-incl-fast-packs Quote
deanrol Posted August 20 Posted August 20 (edited) It’s great to hear how much you enjoyed Macross The First Volume 01! The blend of nostalgia and fresh elements really makes it special, and it’s exciting that you’re looking forward to the next volumes. Edited August 20 by deanrol Quote
jvmacross Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) On 7/27/2024 at 10:19 PM, troyness said: Does anyone know the print run numbers for MTF volumes? Couldn't seem to find it on Wikipedia. I'm assuming that it would be a low print number as it was in Japanese compared to 10's of millions if it had been printed in english? .... hoping for "low" print as a long-term investment. Just an FYI....there are just a handful of officially published Macross materials (since 1982) that have actually increased in value since their original release date and most of them are magazines with "Macross content"...perhaps the Macross Ace magazines will be worth something?....IMO, I don't think any of the Macross the First manga will be worth much more than their msrp "long term"...but who knows...maybe 60 years from now during Macross' 100th anniversary they may become valuable....Hopefully, you'll be around to cash in!....lol Edited August 22 by jvmacross Quote
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