RDClip Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I could go either way. On the one hand we could get some nice updated animation to make up for the sloppiness of the original(thankyou very much AnimeFriend ) But, it will be constantly scrutinized and compared with the original. On the other hand, if we get a new series it will be fresh and new and will bring new characters, designs and concepts to the franchise. However, there will be people who won't like it or may not agree with the way the franchise is headed. Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted November 9, 2009 Author Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) Its perfectly fine as it is. Indeed. Don't get me wrong. I love the original. What I meant was that it would be interesting to see it redone with Frontier style animation (or better!) and some new alternate designs from that era that didn't appear in the first series (imagine the SDP-1 Stampede or some VF-0s thrown in for fun). Edited November 9, 2009 by Kronnang Dunn Quote
Uxi Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 No remakes!. Either a continuation with all new characters on another New Macross expedition. Perhaps looking for the lost Megaroad-1 and Hikaru/Misa, etc. Barring that, a sequel series to Macross Plus and Macross 7 would be nice... Isamu in Millard's role overseeing the new Super Nova project testing out between the YF-28 and YF-30. Or a sequel with Mylene married to Gamlin on the M7 Fleet. Probably no Basara, who is wandering the Galaxy doing good deads. Maybe a cameo or guest appearance or two. Mylene is the diva of Macross 7 but her marriage to Gamlin is estranged and there's a new suitor...? Quote
RedWolf Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) No remakes!. Either a continuation with all new characters on another New Macross expedition. Perhaps looking for the lost Megaroad-1 and Hikaru/Misa, etc. I'd rather have Miku found in suspended animation with the fate of the Megaroad-01 fleet largely a mystery. Barring that, a sequel series to Macross Plus and Macross 7 would be nice... Isamu in Millard's role overseeing the new Super Nova project testing out between the YF-28 and YF-30. Isamu doesn't like being promoted. I think he is more likely to join SMS than be kicked upstairs. Or a sequel with Mylene married to Gamlin on the M7 Fleet. Probably no Basara, who is wandering the Galaxy doing good deads. Maybe a cameo or guest appearance or two. Mylene is the diva of Macross 7 but her marriage to Gamlin is estranged and there's a new suitor...? I'd rather have a story about the kids whom they touched. Sheryl is by proxy one since she like's singing Fire Bomber as a kid and appears to be a fan of Mylene. Pedro grown up seeking to be like Basara, Elma a successful singer taking after her mentor, Billy perhaps being a reporter, M7th Chord's Mio essentially top dog of a music squadron, Physica Fulcrum's kid as a pilot with parent issues. Miho Miho at the rank of colonel or general as their mother hen. Chlore as mayor. Edited November 9, 2009 by RedWolf Quote
MDP310 Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 What exactly are the differences between SDFM and The First? It would probably be cool if they made that into an OVA, kind of like Hellsing Ultimate. I love the story of SDFM but the animation is just sooo bad. Like worse than Mobile Suit Gundam (the original one) at some points. I wouldn't mind seeing something between Plus and 7, or between 7 and Frontier. Maybe with a fleet that found a planet to live on and now has to deal with some stuff or something. Oh, or maybe the fleet that founded Eden. Quote
azrael Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 What is with people and remakes these days? It's like no one has a frakin imagination these days. Everything gotta be a remake of something old. Good grief. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 There's not nearly enough Macross to consider a remake. Maybe when it's like Star Trek, with zillions of episodes to the point that they're just repeating the exact same ep with different actors. Only remake when: A. It's been a LONG time since ANYTHING was made for the series. See Galactica. B. It's gotten stale due to repetition and reuse---TOO much has been made TOO recently (and of not-so-good quality). See Star Trek and previous Batman movies. Quote
Killer Robot Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 From past experience I suspect that if a remake was made, fans would be either upset at all the changes, annoyed that it's nothing new and fresh, or possibly both at once. I can't see it ending well. Quote
VFTF1 Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Don't we already have a thread discussing what the next Macross might be/should be/could be/shouldn't be? Pete (the question is purely rhetorical) Quote
Bri Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 It's not needed. What I wouldn't mind would be like a single OVA with the animation from the Pachinko game together with some newly interpreted scenes and music videos as an anniversary release at some point. Quote
taksraven Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I thought that Frontier was a remake of SDF:M :D Seriously though, no point in a remake. It would just piss people off. The only Macross so far that has really been a backward glance was Macross Zero and they were lucky enough to get it right. I doubt they would be so lucky again. Taksraven Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted November 9, 2009 Author Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) Don't we already have a thread discussing what the next Macross might be/should be/could be/shouldn't be? Yep, but I wanted to learn everybody else's opinion about a remake... so I started this thread and made the poll focusing more on the SDF remake, inspired by the CGI footage seen in the new Fever Macross pachinko game... Edited November 9, 2009 by Kronnang Dunn Quote
eugimon Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I was going to say I wouldn't mind them going back and redoing a few key episodes with updated animation but keep all the original voice work... but that's DYRL. Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 I would definitely be against a remake... but i would love it if they reanimated the whole thing (frame for frame, line for line) with the same quality as those scenes from the pachingco game. i wouldn't mind that at all. Quote
Sketch Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Totally against a remake. A great way to suck the magic out of a classic would be to redo it. Now if they made some side stories set during Space War I with a mix of new and old characters, I'd be all over it. Quote
thegunny Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 What I meant was that it would be interesting to see it redone with Frontier style animation (or better!) No it wouldn't. Keep the CGI crap in the bottom drawer where it belongs and don't de-face a classic old school anime with it. As was mentioned earlier remakes are only for those that have no creative ability and 99.99% of the time THEY SUCK! Quote
Vepariga Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 after seeing the pachinko game footage id like to see the original Macross re-done but only as a anniversary thing like the evangelion 1.0 movies, like a 4-part feature or something. But thats all,just for a tribute to the series. Quote
BlueMax Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Actually I think the word "re-make" might be a little off... We don't want a re-make... but rather, we want an "re-animation" to have "updated" visuals of the "original Macross". No change or just very minor updates to make it look/sound not so dated. Quote
Jasonc Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 It's a hard choice, cause I'd like one, and for option 2, I'd have to say that or something else, not this or anything but... After seeing the Pachinko animation, a redone SDF: Macross would be off the charts, but at the same time, my mind likes seeing the new, and the pushing of boundaries that Macross does. Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 It's a hard choice, cause I'd like one, and for option 2, I'd have to say that or something else, not this or anything but... After seeing the Pachinko animation, a redone SDF: Macross would be off the charts, but at the same time, my mind likes seeing the new, and the pushing of boundaries that Macross does. I don't really know the economics of it, but maybe a reanimated SDFM doesn't have to be such a major production. for the 30th anniversary, they can still come up with a new macross production AND the reanimated SDFM. And when i said frame for frame, line for line, i meant it. No need for seiyuus, writers, composers, directors and other production expenses. Use the same dialogue, score, and soundtrack. Just hire the animators and CGI people. Like Vepariga said, purely as a tribute. sell it on DVD for a gazillion dollars, and a macross fan like me will eat it up like crazy. Ok, not for a gazillion dollars. a little less than that would work. Quote
JB0 Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 I was going to say I wouldn't mind them going back and redoing a few key episodes with updated animation but keep all the original voice work... but that's DYRL. I must've missed Max and Millia's knife fight and wedding in DYRL. Seriously, DYRL is a full-on remake. Not a reanimating with the old voice work. I don't want a(nother) remake. Or a reanimation with updated designs and modern aesthetics. What I'd LIKE to see(within the realm of technical possibility) is the entire original series reanimated with the ORIGINAL style and a consistently high level of detail and accuracy. And there's not a snowball's chance in hell of THAT happening. Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 + 1 JBO, nothing changed, just re-animated. Quote
Morpheus Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Leave the classic alone. I prefer a new Macross series in the next 3-5 years. Quote
TheLoneWolf Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Voted No. The original is fine. Why waste money retreading old ground when you could be covering new territory. Quote
Sketch Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Actually I think the word "re-make" might be a little off... We don't want a re-make... but rather, we want an "re-animation" to have "updated" visuals of the "original Macross". No change or just very minor updates to make it look/sound not so dated. If they only reanimated certain scenes it would end up looking like Zeta Gundam: A New Translation, and it would be terrible. The animation in the pachinko game looks cheap. It's very cool as a tribute, but it's soulless and would destroy a classic. Edited November 12, 2009 by Sketch Quote
Vifam7 Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Actually I think the word "re-make" might be a little off... We don't want a re-make... but rather, we want an "re-animation" to have "updated" visuals of the "original Macross". No change or just very minor updates to make it look/sound not so dated. There has never been an anime that has simply been "re-animated". Something is ALWAYS changed (plot, storyline, setting, character, etc). So instead of a "re-animation", it will always be a "remake". Quote
Keith Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Not a remake, just a re-animation, consider it renovating the series. -Shiny new widescreen HD animation. -The exact same vocal tracks -Stereo mixed BGM I stress that they use the exact same character audio, as we don't need re-recorded/redone performances. Just a fresh coat of paint, especially on those damned anime friend episodes. The mecha design should remain the same, since it is sitll pre-DYRL, wouldn't complain at a bit more cu stome variety for Minmay (some of those stage dresses were god aweful then), but all in all, a scene for scene reporoductioin, just with higher end animation. Kinda like if Mikimoto was involved with the character designs for Frontier. I wouldn't hate on CG Valkyries for this produciton, Satellite regardless of some animation hickups, was quite a capable animator. Quote
Beltane70 Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 Ah, Keith, thanks for showing me that I'm not alone in what I'd like done to the original series! Quote
Uxi Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 I'd rather have Miku found in suspended animation with the fate of the Megaroad-01 fleet largely a mystery. Didn't say I think they should actually find it. Just be looking for it. The actual fate would remain a McGuffin and I'd prefer it ambiguous, if not just unknown (strange aliens say they came this way, etc. Run into more rogue Zendraedi fleets - kinda like another take of Fleet of the Strongest Women, etc) etc, etc. Isamu doesn't like being promoted. I think he is more likely to join SMS than be kicked upstairs. He could definitely fit in more like Viper role from Top-Gun. Even Isamu could mature eventually. Picture it: "Good morning, gentlemen, the temperature on New Eden is 110 degrees." CF#1: "Holy poo, it's Isamu!" CF#2: "Isamu's up here, great... oh poo..." Quote
Uxi Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 Not a remake, just a re-animation, consider it renovating the series. -Shiny new widescreen HD animation. -The exact same vocal tracks -Stereo mixed BGM I stress that they use the exact same character audio, as we don't need re-recorded/redone performances. Just a fresh coat of paint, especially on those damned anime friend episodes. The mecha design should remain the same, since it is sitll pre-DYRL, wouldn't complain at a bit more cu stome variety for Minmay (some of those stage dresses were god aweful then), but all in all, a scene for scene reporoductioin, just with higher end animation. Kinda like if Mikimoto was involved with the character designs for Frontier. I wouldn't hate on CG Valkyries for this produciton, Satellite regardless of some animation hickups, was quite a capable animator. I could dig that. Include FB2012 at the end, also redone in the same manner.... Quote
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