HG and Robotech Debates

[Einherjar]

Brooklyn Red Leg is here, I believe under the name 1st Border Red Devil. He's probably the world's most vocal Southern Cross proponent. Protoculture is also here, and he's a big fan of both Macross AND Robotech.

And, um...who mentioned them?

doug in the long rant to J T I posted.

Jt your nothing big, you not a Brooklen redleg, not a protoculture, not a captain jls, not a memo, not a maverick, not a seto and your not a bendo or jt. Your notthing and I don't mean that in a insulting way but in an honest way. Look your girl can hold you hand and tell you your something special that what they show do. But keep in mind something the only person in your camp trying to tell you that your great poo is Seto. Geuss what he is the only one among us who is not a robotech fan!

Edited December 7, 2009 by Einherjar

[Gubaba]

doug in the long rant to J T I posted.

Oh, I missed that. I find it difficult to understand what Doug's saying most of the time, so I tend to skip over his posts. Especially when he writes a wall of text.

[Seto Kaiba]

So I guess both Memo and doug lost credibility from the partnership and paving the way for more followers of his gospel for Robotechx. Because those people are the only ones who are going to see value in the site pretty soon. What was all of this for again, pedo bears and three bald guys?

Nah, what started this whole brouhaha was Bendo's absurd proclamation that Ranka is 12 and thus Macross Frontier is child pornography. When NOBODY took him seriously, and most of the site's membership told him to shut his ignorant ass up, he took it personally and tried to take the fight to his podcast. When that didn't work (and earned him more than one show with a 100% hostile live audience) he fell back on threatening retribution against JT for things other people say about him, and trying unsuccessfully to intimidate JT into renouncing everyone who doesn't agree that Ranka is 12 and Macross Frontier fans are all pedophiles.

After that, pretty much every thread where he continued to argue degenerated into people trolling him just to wind him up.

I'll wish them a wonderful YEAR FOUR of waiting for anything new Robotech in advance, that at least one of them is going to whine about anyway. Love the Animal House theme you're relying on there.

Ain't it great? Hell, we could easily and safely wish them a happy FIFTH year of waiting for anything new.

Jasonc is one of Seto Disciples...? Since when?

I dunno, but his latest kick before he got banned (apparently by MEMO) from RobotechX is that Macross fandom is some kind of cult, and I'm apparently the cult leader... I keep tossing out jokes how since I apparently have all these disciples that I should've been oppressing lobster people and building giant battlefortresses instead of wasting my time watching Bendo caper for my amusement.

Everyone is a Disciple of Seto.

His Keyboard is his podium his word is logical and easy to read as well as easy on the eyes.

In short If you don't listen to Captain Capslock, Dougbendo or the rest of their gang ten your considered a Setoite

That's about the letter of it... the Robotech lunatic fringe, and a substantial portion of the mainstream fandom, has always had a "you're either with us or against us" mentality... that's what led to all the fan wars between the purists and whoever their victim of the week is. It's safe to say that unless you're one of the VERY few people who listen to MEMO, Bendo, and/or PTH, they consider you the enemy, and apparently because I'm outspoken and still a fairly prominent figure in the Robotech fandom, I've become the designated Big Bad.

Who are a couple of people he mentioned, Brooklen red leg and protoculture, are they really important?

I forget what his handle is here, he used to also go by "Rabid Southern Cross Fan", but Brooklyn Red Leg is/was the designated Masters Saga/Southern Cross expert on RT.com and pretty much its only vocal defender after Bendo got banned and HoverTanker said FGSFDS and left RT.com. Protoculture is another RT.com member, don't know if he has the same handle here or is even on this site... but he's another one of those "expert fans" from RT.com.

[Einherjar]

I know Seto, just trivializing why the heck all this drama came around.

I'm surprised he didn't mention Khyron Prime while he was at it. Also MedMapGuy, but I'm cool with him.

[Seto Kaiba]

I'm surprised he didn't mention Khyron Prime while he was at it.

On a few separate occasions Bendo has ranted about he has a lot of respect for Khyron_Prime and how Khyron_Prime did the right thing by pieing Tommy Yune at that convention. Just goes to show the sort of unbalanced folks he looks up to.

[VF5SS]

Brooklyn Red Leg is here, I believe under the name 1st Border Red Devil. He's probably the world's most vocal Southern Cross proponent.

I wouldn't really call Brooklyn a Southern Cross proponent. He sort of just jerks off to that one Army of Southern Cross organization chart found in all the model kits and the DVD insert while trying very hard to project some hard military sci-fi bent onto JEANNE WANTS A NEW DRESS.

He's completely delusional when it comes to that show. I like Southern Cross but mang, what did Robotech do to it?

[Gubaba]

I wouldn't really call Brooklyn a Southern Cross proponent. He sort of just jerks off to that one Army of Southern Cross organization chart found in all the model kits and the DVD insert while trying very hard to project some hard military sci-fi bent onto JEANNE WANTS A NEW DRESS.

He's completely delusional when it comes to that show. I like Southern Cross but mang, what did Robotech do to it?

I was trying to be diplomatic about it.

[Seto Kaiba]

I wouldn't really call Brooklyn a Southern Cross proponent. He sort of just jerks off to that one Army of Southern Cross organization chart found in all the model kits and the DVD insert while trying very hard to project some hard military sci-fi bent onto JEANNE WANTS A NEW DRESS.

Can't say I've had much in the way of interaction with him, barring a few brief chats back when I used to use AIM, but on those occasions when Robotech fans start complaining about the incomplete state of the Infopedia, they always bring up my name for the Macross Saga, BRL for the Masters Saga, and Cyclone for the New Generation as the experts Harmony Gold should tap for the project.

So far, despite actually seeking out and watching the original Southern Cross for myself, I've only encountered three, maybe four actual Southern Cross fans. Whether or not Doug Bendover counts is dubious, since he only cares about the Robotech adaptation. I've never managed to discern BRL's reasons for loving the series so much, except that he might really like the mechanical designs. The other major proponents of the series were the duo of Hover Tanker and Ryoko. I know HT had a deep-seated loathing of the officer class, so having the show with a largely NCO cast which all too often depicted senior officers as ignorant desk-jockeys and opportunists probably appealed to him... as did the fact that the show concerned the adventures of a pack of ground-pounders rather than pilots. I think Ryoko just had a preference for ground mecha.

He's completely delusional when it comes to that show. I like Southern Cross but mang, what did Robotech do to it?

You could make a case for Robotech actually improving Southern Cross, if only by tying it into much better shows like Macross, Mospeada, and Megazone 23.

[Einherjar]

Well, anyway, I think it's safe to say that Robotechx is now no better than Robotech.com for anyone realistic about the situation of an 80's cartoon. It's painfully clear that they're both run by the same individual(s), and those various slogans they use are meaningless.

[taksraven]

So far, despite actually seeking out and watching the original Southern Cross for myself, I've only encountered three, maybe four actual Southern Cross fans. Whether or not Doug Bendover counts is dubious, since he only cares about the Robotech adaptation. I've never managed to discern BRL's reasons for loving the series so much, except that he might really like the mechanical designs. The other major proponents of the series were the duo of Hover Tanker and Ryoko. I know HT had a deep-seated loathing of the officer class, so having the show with a largely NCO cast which all too often depicted senior officers as ignorant desk-jockeys and opportunists probably appealed to him... as did the fact that the show concerned the adventures of a pack of ground-pounders rather than pilots. I think Ryoko just had a preference for ground mecha.

I have always thought that there was a place in Macross for some sort of spin-off or alternate story that focussed on the Destroid pilots. I'm sure that some sort of work that looked at the tough job Destroid pilots had during Space War I would be fascinating.

You could make a case for Robotech actually improving Southern Cross, if only by tying it into much better shows like Macross, Mospeada, and Megazone 23.

I have to admit, I am not a Southern Cross "fan" but I still find it to be an interesting series. It had a lot of good elements and did include some iconic imagery but at the end it was flawed and ultimately a failure. (In a similar way to how the film "The Black Hole" was a failure, even though it had a lot going for it.) I think that Southern Cross would have benefitted from being a longer series (I think it was originally planned to have a longer run) as everything seems to be too cramped and condensed.

Taksraven

[Beltane70]

Actually, while I don't really consider myself a Southern Cross fan, I did actually enjoy the original series way much more than I did its Robotech version.

I have always thought that there was a place in Macross for some sort of spin-off or alternate story that focussed on the Destroid pilots. I'm sure that some sort of work that looked at the tough job Destroid pilots had during Space War I would be fascinating.

Well, tak, there was a two or three part Robotech comic that dealt with the Destoids. Unlike most of the Robotech comics, the writing and artwork were really well done, I thought. The series very easily could have been passed off as an actual Macross side story if one didn't know any better.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Beltane70

[Seto Kaiba]

Well, anyway, I think it's safe to say that Robotechx is now no better than Robotech.com for anyone realistic about the situation of an 80's cartoon. It's painfully clear that they're both run by the same individual(s), and those various slogans they use are meaningless.

To be brutally frank, that RobotechX would one day become just as big of a shithole as Robotech.com was never in any doubt. After all, the site's owner is none other than Captain Capslock himself, MEMO1DOMINION. Having the day-to-day operation of the site handled by SIGHUP, a reasonable but incredibly apathetic administrator, did little to slow the site's gradual decay into an Orwellian mess where dissenting opinions about Robotech and the Harmony Gold company line are punishable by termination. The only real difference is that instead of being run by an oppressive "Big Brother", RobotechX is run by a habitual bootlicker.

I have always thought that there was a place in Macross for some sort of spin-off or alternate story that focussed on the Destroid pilots. I'm sure that some sort of work that looked at the tough job Destroid pilots had during Space War I would be fascinating.

I can think of a fair few people who'd be sold on the idea of a Macross OVA about destroid pilots.

I have to admit, I am not a Southern Cross "fan" but I still find it to be an interesting series. It had a lot of good elements and did include some iconic imagery but at the end it was flawed and ultimately a failure.

Even when I was watching Robotech for the first time I had very little use for the show's adaptation of Southern Cross. I eventually bought ADV's 2-for-1 box set containing Southern Cross and Mospeada out of simple curiously (and because it was on sale at the time) and gave the show a try. It did absolutely nothing for me. I found it a bit less obnoxious than Robotech's Masters Saga, though that's largely a function of watching it subtitled instead of having to listen to Harmony Gold's atrocious voice acting. All the same, I couldn't really be arsed to give a damn about any of the characters apart from wanting Jeanne to die in the most horrible fashion imaginable, and I found virtually all of the show's mechanical designs ugly and uninspired. After watching Southern Cross all the way through, I found myself completely in agreement with the network's decision to cancel the show. After I got my hands on This is Animation #10: Southern Cross, I had to revise my opinion somewhat... it's a show that had promise back in the early phases of development, and had they stopped about halfway through the revision process and worked with what they had, the show would've been a LOT better.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Seto Kaiba

[VFTF1]

I'd join in this discussion, but only after I finish watching my fill of child pornography for today. After that, I'm off to the gay club to dance to Yoko Kanno music, and then I'll see you guys in the "Favorite Macross Loli Poll" thread tonight.

Bye for now.

Blessed Be Our Leader Who Art In Internet: Seto - Ruler of Minds and Men.

Pete

[Einherjar]

Oh well, back to other more important stuff. Before this potentially gets retracted by a certain Big Brother:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-12-04

The fans want all this Macross stuff, but it's exorbitantly expensive and dealing with Harmony Gold is a bitch and the sales at the end of the day are rather mediocre.

I like how the Answerman brought up the ADV production and ignored the Animego release .

Edited December 7, 2009 by Einherjar

[Gubaba]

Oh well, back to other more important stuff. Before this potentially gets retracted by a certain Big Brother:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2009-12-04

I like how the Answerman brought up the ADV production and ignored the Animego release .

Huh.

I wonder how true that is. My instinct tells me that a (let's say) 2010 release of a 2008 series that has a lot of "buzz" around it would probably fare better than a 2004 re-release of a 1982 series that has already been seen (and bought) by many, many people.

And yes...it IS odd that he forgets about the AnimEigo release. I wonder how that did, in terms of sales?

[azrael]

And yes...it IS odd that he forgets about the AnimEigo release. I wonder how that did, in terms of sales?

We can always ask Robert Woodhead to give us a sorta-answer.

trebor_AT_animeigo_DOT_com

It should be noted that Answerman's key point to his response was: "It's too damn expensive".

[Gubaba]

It should be noted that Answerman's key point to his response was: "It's too damn expensive".

Oh, THAT part I definitely believe. I also believe that HG is probably no fun to work with.

I think, however, that it would be a hit in the west...but I'm a big Macross nerd, so of course I think that.

[Einherjar]

But at this point I thought Harmony Gold is a major contributing factor why it would be expensive to bring out of Japan. Anyone thinking about it would have to satisfy them first in various ways ($$$), then work out the other difficulties.

And with the permission of the mods, I would like to start an Internet Meme with the quote in bold.

[Seto Kaiba]

Speaking of our dear friend Mr. Capslock, it looks like he finally got sick of dougbendo causing all kinds of fights over on RobotechX, but he unwisely opted to use it as an excuse to ban a few "undesirables" who regularly call him out on his lies and crazy theories as well. He's gonna find RobotechX just became a MUCH quieter and less active place.

[...] Having the day-to-day operation of the site handled by SIGHUP, a reasonable but incredibly apathetic administrator, did little to slow the site's gradual decay into an Orwellian mess where dissenting opinions about Robotech and the Harmony Gold company line are punishable by termination [...]

Just a minor correction to these two statements posted earlier this evening... as it turns out, MEMO actually had nothing to do with this latest ThinkPol-style purge in the fanbase. The bannings on RobotechX were actually the work of SIGHUP, the site's other administrator. It seems he's gone off the deep end in response to all of Doug Bendo's antics. It seems he was ignoring a fairly sizable number of complaints and requests for admin intervention when Bendo first started getting out of hand, and apparently decided to ban not only Bendo, but the people Bendo was threatening, harassing, and slandering.

I think what Einherjar said about RobotechX now being just as bad as Robotech.com might be a bit of an understatement.

[Jasonc]

Hmmm, from what I've observed and know, we all here have been our own voice, whether good, not so good, or whatnot. I guess I'm added to the crybaby festival because I have that tendency to piss off that side with no way of retribution. Don't know, don't care... I don't cater to morons or idiots. Seems that they just want to group all of us together as some cult for whoever makes the biggest splash, and Seto, that be you. I'm actually surprised that they didn't throw me in as a JT follower. While not necessarily that either, at least his podcasts consists of talk that reaches well beyond the i.q. of 100. I think a jealousy seems to be what sparked lil dougie to get all bent out of shape and banned.

So, the little group of allies that was Dougbendo, Memo, and Pizza seems to have fallen apart? Makes me wonder why they even try. I don't think any of the elitist have ever learned to just play friendly. See what Robotech teaches you? It teaches you to fire off at anything that doesn't fit in your world. The decent fans of Robotech are going extinct. That's sad in a way, as some of them I got along with pretty well.

[Gubaba]

So, the little group of allies that was Dougbendo, Memo, and Pizza seems to have fallen apart? Makes me wonder why they even try. I don't think any of the elitist have ever learned to just play friendly. See what Robotech teaches you? It teaches you to fire off at anything that doesn't fit in your world. The decent fans of Robotech are going extinct. That's sad in a way, as some of them I got along with pretty well.

Yeah...as I said to Einherjar via PM earlier today, Memo seems to make bad choices in who he takes under his wing.

And I'm sure there are many decent fans of Robotech out there...after all, SOMEONE'S gotta be listening to JT...

(Although I probably shouldn't say that, since Bendo's newest line of attack is that only "Macross Groupies" like JT. )

[HappyPenguins]

Well seto and myself are only temp banned which is still BS but I admit I baited doug bendo so my temp ban is justified only it's rather sad and pathetic how he wasn't dealt with before things got out of hand. But yes I trolled bendo and it was fun

but now I must suffer the consequences.

and speaking of dougie, I hear his newest podcast is dedicated to bitching about us and JT.

But would Robotech.com tolerate Doug's threats? absolutely not

which is why I hate to say it but RTX has become worse.

[Gubaba]

Well seto and myself are only temp banned which is still BS but I admit I baited doug bendo so my temp ban is justified only it's rather sad and pathetic how he wasn't dealt with before things got out of hand. But yes I trolled bendo and it was fun

but now I must suffer the consequences.

and speaking of dougie, I hear his newest podcast is dedicated to bitching about us and JT.

But would Robotech.com tolerate Doug's threats? absolutely not

which is why I hate to say it but RTX has become worse.

Not necessarily. My understanding is that RTX is an attempt to open the floodgates as it were and let people speak their minds, for good AND ill. If a lot of the stuff that comes out turns out to be garbage, then that's no surprise...that's what floodgates are for.

[Einherjar]

But would Robotech.com tolerate Doug's threats? absolutely not

which is why I hate to say it but RTX has become worse.

Sorry to tell you this, but they already had to deal with doug before, and the response was mostly the same.

http://beta.robotech.com/community/forum/r...&forumid=12

The fallout is on the last page of that thread.

[Robelwell202]

(Although I probably shouldn't say that, since Bendo's newest line of attack is that only "Macross Groupies" like JT. )

This is quite hillarious, as JT's explained that he's never seen Macross, except for DYRL...

But would Robotech.com tolerate Doug's threats? absolutely not

which is why I hate to say it but RTX has become worse.

Are you kidding? WDKaiserV1's sig line is as bad as it gets! 'Death to Macross Purists!'

[HappyPenguins]

Sorry to tell you this, but they already had to deal with doug before, and the response was mostly the same.

http://beta.robotech.com/community/forum/r...&forumid=12

The fallout is on the last page of that thread.

well what he said there was tame compared to what he spewed on RTX

and that would not be tolerated.

and it's no secret that he was the one who sent JT the death threat.

but of course, it's pathetic that his ban on Rt.com was the result of a lame

RT masters debate..

talk about obsession

[HappyPenguins]

This is quite hillarious, as JT's explained that he's never seen Macross, except for DYRL...

Are you kidding? WDKaiserV1's sig line is as bad as it gets! 'Death to Macross Purists!'

apparently signatures do not count on that site

if that's the case then maybe someone should test the

water and put "death to Robotech purists" and see what happens

In the time that I've spent on that site even as a lurker, I've never seen anyone get in trouble for a sig, it's only been their posts alone.

[Jasonc]

apparently signatures do not count on that site

if that's the case then maybe someone should test the

water and put "death to Robotech purists" and see what happens

In the time that I've spent on that site even as a lurker, I've never seen anyone get in trouble for a sig, it's only been their posts alone.

I'm sure one of the mods who hold their double standards would ban that person. I don't think the staff care...Personally, I really don't think they even care about the franchise they work for. I know Steve only gets involved when enough people bring it to his attention. Other than that, he's probably the laziest person on the planet. It's also the reason why part of the whole mess with their fandom is where it is.

As for Dougbendo, it seems he's become the sellout that he hates. As I read several posts ago, someone pointed out that he seemed to be tolerant of Shadow Chronicles. I believe he had many choice words for the same show not too long ago. Ahhh, in all seriousness, in my profession, based on the facts, most of these people would be classified as 5150 (if you don't know what that means, look it up). Makes me happy that I am no longer part of the torn group. I'd be really offended and embarassed if I was, but like I keep saying, the wackjobs just make it funny. Too bad not enough fans care about the trash the few bring to the table due to their own mental incompetencies and personal issues. Oh well, keep the gossip news rolling.

[VFTF1]

I guess I'm not a Macross groupie, because I don't hang out at a website called RobotechX and I have no clue who JT is.

Then again, I haven't gotten my Orders in from SETO yet. I sure wish Master Seto would see fit to give me some assisgnment, but I'm happy to just be able to agree with him all the time and I trust his judgement 100%. He did, after all, write the original treatment for SDFM TV, he illustrated all of DYRL single handedly, and he owns the Macross II intellectual property rights.

Which brings me to another point:

Why waste time on putting forward reality-based arguments with these people? Wouldn't it be funner to just have Seto post something and then have ten people follow up with "Exactly" "yes" "Well put" and continue that forever? And Seto wouldn't even have to post anything meaningful.

Just make crapshoot arguments - like for instance here are some:

Macross is better than Robotech because Macross features music by Bruce Springstien and U2

Macross is also cooler than Robotech because Optimus Prime makes a cameo in the original Japanese show, and is voiced by Peter Cullen.

Macross is cooler than Robotech because not only are there no gay people in the show, but - more importantly, and in contrast to Robotech's production team - no gay people worked on Macross.

Macross is cooler than Robotech because in the sequal to Macross, Macross II, they DO show what happened to the SDF-3

I hope you see where this is going?

Robotech fans keep making arguments that are about as meaningful as the sounds made by a cat after you step on its' tail. Why not just stop wasting our time and fight back with some of the same. Clearly these guys are NOT reading Seto's well reasoned views and not responding to them on their merits.

So...fight stupid with stupid I say.

and have fun doing it

Pete

[Seto Kaiba]

Seems that they just want to group all of us together as some cult for whoever makes the biggest splash, and Seto, that be you.

I'm an avowed atheist and yet somehow I've been multiply branded as a cult leader... what the hell?

I think a jealousy seems to be what sparked lil dougie to get all bent out of shape and banned.

I reckon that's a large part of it, especially after JT let the cat out of the bag and announced that he's got an interview with Michael Bradley lined up for his 12th episode. It also probably has a lot to do with JT failing to exhibit the desired responses of admiration for Doug's so-called achievements in podcasting and fear when Doug tries to intimidate him. It seems being ignored doesn't sit well with Bendo, particularly when he's trying to be intimidating (and failing extravagantly).

And I'm sure there are many decent fans of Robotech out there...after all, SOMEONE'S gotta be listening to JT...

Well, we know Michael Bradley and his manager do... and word has it Tom Bateman does as well. Maverick_LSC also seems to visit JT's podcast site alarmingly often... I wonder if he's spying on him for Steve and Tommy, or if he's just obsessing over a podcaster who doesn't think the sun shines out of the collective apefaces of Warner Bros and Harmony Gold?

(Although I probably shouldn't say that, since Bendo's newest line of attack is that only "Macross Groupies" like JT. )

Yeah, I noticed that too... kinda lulzy really, since JT openly admits the only Macross show he's ever seen is DYRL, though we're making arrangements to hook him up with some Macross Frontier-y goodness. I don't think you could really lump people like Tom Bateman and Michael Bradley in with "Macross Groupies" either... unless they've been part of the mysterious cult I didn't know I had for a while.

Not necessarily. My understanding is that RTX is an attempt to open the floodgates as it were and let people speak their minds, for good AND ill. If a lot of the stuff that comes out turns out to be garbage, then that's no surprise...that's what floodgates are for.

Eh... not anymore really. Now it's just a venue for MEMO to preach his pro-Harmony Gold delusions like they're fact and lock threads so people can't correct him.

Sorry to tell you this, but they already had to deal with doug before, and the response was mostly the same.

http://beta.robotech.com/community/forum/r...&forumid=12

Ah... good times. Speakin' as someone who was actually friends with most of the participants, I have to say that this hardly lines up with what SIGHUP did... at the very least Saraphys, Doug Bendo, and Hibiki EARNED their bans there by being equally foul to each other, whereas the people arguing with Bendo on RTX did nothing nastier than responding to accusations of child molestation with some amusing image macros of the Robotech Masters in drag.

[VF5SS]

I know HT had a deep-seated loathing of the officer class, so having the show with a largely NCO cast which all too often depicted senior officers as ignorant desk-jockeys and opportunists probably appealed to him... as did the fact that the show concerned the adventures of a pack of ground-pounders rather than pilots. I think Ryoko just had a preference for ground mecha.

That's really over thinking the situation in Southern Cross. I imagine the writers for the show hadn't even heard of those three-letter acronyms military sci-fi fans liked to throw around. It's really just a bunch of plucky protagonists going against those in charge. I think the ANN review said it best when it regarded the Southern Cross forces as being your typical sci-fi military with super relaxed standards. I find it pretty unnerving when Robotech fans actually believe the show is a serious hardcore space opera.

You could make a case for Robotech actually improving Southern Cross, if only by tying it into much better shows like Macross, Mospeada, and Megazone 23.

The thing is Southern Cross isn't really that bad. It's easily as competent as any of its contemporaries. It's kind of like Gundam X in many regards. Like it has some good ideas and competent (if not uninspired) direction, but mainly it was a victim of being the third show in a loosely related trilogy. And its predecessor, Orguss, is not leaps and bounds better. I like it a little more than Mospeada at times. Overall I find that few mecha series are completely irredeemable, it's just that most of them are merely okay. Being okay is fine, just don't expect it to start (or sustain in the case of Robotech) a franchise.

[Wanzerfan]

Don't listen to Wanzerfan. He's wrong again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantaloupe

Watch Good Eats (I'll post the episode name later), Alton Brown knows what he's talking about.

If you looked at my post (post #1160) on the subject, I did call the cantaloupe a muskmelon (as evidenced in the Wikipedia entry link you posted) I just mispelled the word canteloupe.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Wanzerfan

[VFTF1]

If you looked at my post (post #1160) on the subject, I did call the cantaloupe a muskmelon

Post #1160:

A muskmelon is what most people in the states mistakenly call a canteloupe.

"A muskmelon is what most people in the states mistakenly call a canteloupe" = "I did call the cantaloupe a muskmelon" ?

Hail Seto, down with HG, up with Sheryl's Boobs.

Pete

[Keith]

Watch Good Eats (I'll post the episode name later), Alton Brown knows what he's talking about.

If you looked at my post (post #1160) on the subject, I did call the cantaloupe a muskmelon (as evidenced in the Wikipedia entry link you posted) I just mispelled the word canteloupe.

"I admire your ability to show up"

-Keanue Reeves: Hardball.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Keith

[Einherjar]

It should be noted that Answerman's key point to his response was: "It's too damn expensive".

Still, for someone in, generally, a official trusted site on the Internet regarding anime to be very blunt about the situation can have an impact. If it is a segment read by a lot of people, it can continue to give a negative perception on HG and whatever they intend to do with the rights they say they have.

While I'm at it, since this is the kind of obscure news articles Memo relies on to drum up attention for Robotech, maybe he should post this on his sites. Remember the very potent wording at the end he can potentially use to bring his point across.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Einherjar