Funkenstein Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) First picture of the revoltech Valkyrie in its fighter mode. This is very tantalizing, considering the high amount of DOF on revoltech figures. Maybe Toynami will make a Stealth Valkyrie 2.0 out of this guy? Its hard to tell if this is a parts-former, but I dont think any of us would mind that. Source Edited September 26, 2009 by Funkenstein Quote
Grand Admiral Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 I wouldn't buy a parts-former. Just sayin'. Quote
anime52k8 Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 I find the idea of Revy zoids a million times more interesting than transforming Valks. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Its hard to tell if this is a parts-former, but I dont think any of us would mind that.It's not, it's perfect transformation Quote
RDClip Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 It's not, it's perfect transformation Interesting... Since the revy battroid vf-1 wasn't exactly lineart accurate. i wonder what this will look like. Quote
SchizophrenicMC Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I find the idea of Revy zoids a million times more interesting than transforming Valks. Agreed. Quote
Graham Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Whoa.....that came out of the blue. Not looking that great IMO though. Intakes look huge. Will likely pass. If they make other PT VF, may consider, depending on how they look. Too many other, better VF-1 toys out there. Graham Quote
theplasticwerks Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Interesting... Since the revy battroid vf-1 wasn't exactly lineart accurate. i wonder what this will look like. Revolving joints EVERYWHERE! Parts alignment might get tricky But kidding aside, I'm interested in at least seeing how it gets pulled off. Proportions in the ad seem a little spotty. Tailfins look weird! Quote
David Hingtgen Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Yeah, I want Zoids more than a VF-1 too. Wonder if they'll make any of the characters from the anime----Reese and Feena (sp) are ripe for the Fraulein line... Now, a Revoltech Mylene valk, THAT I'd pay a lot for. Quote
anime52k8 Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Yeah, I want Zoids more than a VF-1 too. Wonder if they'll make any of the characters from the anime----Reese and Feena (sp) are ripe for the Fraulein line... Now, a Revoltech Mylene valk, THAT I'd pay a lot for. No way, if we ever get a Fraulein zoids characters, it has to be of Kotona But anyways, back to macross. I think the tiny picture looks like crap so far; proportions all out of whack etc. I actually would get a MAXL revoltech, but only a Non-transforming one. Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) I dunno guys, i think it would be fun, but those intakes are flipping big. Edited September 27, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote
Brand Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I think for me it would depend on a combination of durability and price point. I love the Yamato Valks I've been able to collect so far, but I'm afraid to transform them too often for fear of floppy joint syndrome or (much less of a worry, I'm careful and none of them are v1's) accidental breakage. I'd love to find a cheaper, good-looking alternative to actually toy around with at will without worry of ruining an expensive collection-worthy item, without being partsforming-heavy or a total piece of crap. I haven't had any exposure to Revos yet but they seem to have a pretty good reputation; if the PT version here is sturdy, properly transforming and even generally close to the lineart for a decent price, I for one may be interested. Quote
pondo Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I'm with brand on this one. I love the material used on my revoltechs. They are a perfectly priced fun toy. Even if this thing was scaled as badly as a chunky, I'll totally be interested! Quote
mitch Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I'm definitely intrigued. I'm wondering how perfect their purported 'perfect' transformation is on something of this scale (is it supposed to be the same scale as the previous revoltechs?). I hope they do a decent enough job to spur them on to do a valk that ISN'T A VF-1! Quote
Ivan Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Any other valk but VF-1 would interest me... These Japanese toy companies need to take bolder steps if they ever want to win market share. Is Yamato the only company that did NOT start the Macross line with VF-1? Quote
Graham Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Referring to the first post, what the heck is 'DOF'? Quote
Funkenstein Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 Referring to the first post, what the heck is 'DOF'? "Degrees of Freedom". Rotation is one degree of freedom, and so is revolution AKA revolver joints. Each revolver joint has 2 degrees of freedom, one in the Z axis and one in the X axis. Quote
SchizophrenicMC Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Would that not just be Range of Motion? Quote
Funkenstein Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) Would that not just be Range of Motion? Range of motion would be something like 90 to 120 degrees, you know, a range of motion. Like a revoltech joint has a range of axial motion of about 100 degrees. Addendum: If I haven't stated this before, Im an engineer. So the only way I knew how to explain the flexibility of the of the revoltech figures is with degrees of freedom. Edited September 28, 2009 by Funkenstein Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Whoa.....that came out of the blue. Not looking that great IMO though. Intakes look huge. Will likely pass. If they make other PT VF, may consider, depending on how they look. Too many other, better VF-1 toys out there. GrahamTo be honest, the most ideal choice for a Revoltech PT Valkyrie is the VF-2SS IMHO. The design lends itself to dynamic posing, like the midway points of the OVA's where it shows it turning around then doing a pose. I'd especially be excited if Kaiyodo uses this as an opportunity to make a deluxe set for a VF-2SS SAP with attack bits on their own stands Quote
lord_zed Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Wow! Interesting, didn't see that coming! Kaiyodo is just picking up licensees all over the place with Revoltech now, I thought they'd ditched Macross for Gurren lagan etc etc. I have tp say the fighter mode looks pretty terrible, but I'm rather fond of Revoltechs as the ones I have just keep getting better. And in comparison to my other Japanese toys they are indestructible. Although to be honest the other releases look even more interesting, I hope the Zoid one is affordable unlike every other poseable non Tomy Zoid to date. Quote
DarrinG Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I like Revys and I'm totally not interested. Sigh ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT A GLAUG TO GO WITH THEIR REGULT WOULD NOT SELL BETTER THAN ANOTHER VALK!? ____ I see Overdrive still has their Regult, that's the problem. Those should be long gone. If they were we would have our Revy Glaug by now . . . Quote
regult Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT A GLAUG TO GO WITH THEIR REGULT WOULD NOT SELL BETTER THAN ANOTHER VALK!? Yes... (you answered it yourself, the Regults don't seem to sell that well...but really: yet another VF-1!!) Quote
thedarkmarine Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Any other valk but VF-1 would interest me... These Japanese toy companies need to take bolder steps if they ever want to win market share. Is Yamato the only company that did NOT start the Macross line with VF-1? That's a lot easier for you to say when it isn't your mealticket on the line. Quote
Ivan Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 That's a lot easier for you to say when it isn't your mealticket on the line. Their meal tickets being on the line is exactly the reason they need to do it right. Trying to compete in an already saturated market won't do them any good, especially if there is nothing special that differentiates their products. The Macross universe has expanded quite a bit since the original series, and there's plenty of blue oceans where toy companies can find a niche. Quote
thedarkmarine Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 Their meal tickets being on the line is exactly the reason they need to do it right. Trying to compete in an already saturated market won't do them any good, especially if there is nothing special that differentiates their products. The Macross universe has expanded quite a bit since the original series, and there's plenty of blue oceans where toy companies can find a niche. Being revoltech perfect transformation differentiates them plenty. Quote
bluemax151 Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 I find the idea of Revy zoids a million times more interesting than transforming Valks.^this I don't give a sh*t about small scale transforming valks. Now maybe if they had a ton of enemies in scale with them I'd change my mind but I doubt it. Still be better to have 3 different modes sold as stand alone units imo. Yeah, I want Zoids more than a VF-1 too. Wonder if they'll make any of the characters from the anime----Reese and Feena (sp) are ripe for the Fraulein line... Now, a Revoltech Mylene valk, THAT I'd pay a lot for. How can they surpass the absorption pad laden Yujin versions?! Quote
VFTF1 Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 I'm on the fence here... Proportions look pretty bad. Not only the big intakes - but look at the legs...they aren't...well...flush with the "backpack" in fighter mode... they just kind of hang there...sort of like Toynami's 1/100. On principle, I have nothing against transforming Revoltechs... but... well... no comment until I see more. Pete Quote
lord_zed Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 How can they surpass the absorption pad laden Yujin versions?! They could make them like their Queensblade line. Eeep! Quote
EXO Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 I think that Kaiyodo has had their market research as far as the VF-1 with their battroid revoltechs. Obviously those sold well enough for them to pursue another version of the VF-1. I can't blame them for wanting to make more of such a milkable product. I applaud them for making the only Macross enemy mech out there but how far can you take the that mold with simple repaints? You also have to remember that people that buy those VF-1s are not just Macross collectors but there are also Revoltech collectors that just happen to buy the VF-1s to complete their collections. With that being said I'm passing on all small scale valks. The cost just adds up and I end up missing one of the bigger purchases. I'm interested to see how this thing looks in both modes though. Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 Yes... (you answered it yourself, the Regults don't seem to sell that well...but really: yet another VF-1!!) I bought 3 Regults, and i'm damn sure alot of us bought multiples as well. Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 Always when we purchase a VF-1 toy, another is announced. Why can`t they make something new or never been produced. Here's a list so far from all those VF-1's (Transforming ver.) : VF-1 1/55 (Takatoku/ Bandai). VF-1 1/100 (Takatoku/ Bandai). VF-1 1/60 (Yamato). VF-1 1/100 (Banpresto). VF-1 1/48 (Yamato). VF-1 1/100 (Toynami). VF-1 1/60 Ver. 02 (Yamato). VF-1 1/100 Hi Metal (Bandai) TBA. VF-1 unknown scale (kaiydo) TBA. Anything else ? Quote
eriku Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 They keep making VF-1 toys because people keep buying them. I see nothing wrong with that. As for this Revoltech version, I'd like to see some good pics of it before commenting. I may get one out of curiosity, but I'm much more interested in the Revoltech Booska. Quote
Ivan Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 Always when we purchase a VF-1 toy, another is announced. Why can`t they make something new or never been produced. Here's a list so far from all those VF-1's (Transforming ver.) : VF-1 1/55 (Takatoku/ Bandai). VF-1 1/100 (Takatoku/ Bandai). VF-1 1/60 (Yamato). VF-1 1/100 (Banpresto). VF-1 1/48 (Yamato). VF-1 1/100 (Toynami). VF-1 1/60 Ver. 02 (Yamato). VF-1 1/100 Hi Metal (Bandai) TBA. VF-1 unknown scale (kaiydo) TBA. Anything else ? There's also the Toynami Masterpiece (forgot the scale but I think it's 1/55) and the Bandai HCM. Quote
sidearmsalpha Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I bought 3 Regults, and i'm damn sure alot of us bought multiples as well. I have 5. They are very cool. Plus, how often do we get a Regult?! They need to bring out other Macross enemy mecha/characters besides this VF-1. Getting sick of VF-1 toys in this scale or similar scale. Why not milk the Regult mold and release the other variations. Quote
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