Whats the next macross series?

[azrael]

Ah, VFTF1 knows they don't exist...he was just joking.

Hush! Go back to your Ohnogi Macross novels.

[Gubaba]

Hush! Go back to your Ohnogi Macross novels.

Which one?

This one

or this one?

(Strangely, for all that the "liner notes" talked about Ohnogi, they never ONCE mentioned these two... )

[VFTF1]

So.

I have had a vision regarding the next Macross series. Inspired by Renato and Moderator Fokker... here it is:

PREFACE

Macross 7 was a radical departure from previous Macross installments, but its' radicalism was literal, in so far as the latin root of the word radical is...well...'root.' And Macross 7 looked to the essential root of Macross; namely the power of song as a means of changing the hearts of other beings and opening them to love - and took this concept and made it the basis for everything in the series - for better or worse.

Now, Macross isn't just about music. Of equal importance are panties and lingerie in general. Macross Frontier took a bold step in the direction of giving more screen time to panties with episode 8. Now...here's something that hasn't been done, and that certainly should be done:

A Macross OVA focused on PANTIES.

Imagine if episode 8 lasted two hours and was a mystery/detective story - just WHERE are Sheryl's panties? WHO took them?

First - we'd need a protagonist. It would be a young girl who dreams of becoming a super star idol singer - at this point, she can't sing very well and has no prospects, but she does have great taste in panties, and lots of boys in her high school lust after her panties. One day, while showering after gym class, the girl reaches for her panties - and they are gone!

She and her two friends try to seek out what happened to the panties. It'll be a mystery full of twists and turns as first they suspect the boys from school and follow one home even. At home, the boy turns out to have a father who pilots a Destroid. And as the Destroid pulls in to park, the girls see that there are some panties that look the same as the missing panties in the Destroid cockpit. The detective-high schoolers set up a surveillance of the dad, only to discover that the panties belong to the dad's girlfriend, who visits him with lunch and kisses in his Destroid while he's patroling the colony.

They are NOT the missing panties.

This is just one example of how the plot will generally go. We can discover the colony ship and all of its' unique quirks as the high schoolers seek out the missing panties, exploring more and more arcane leads.

In the end, it turns out that and alien being took the panties and is intent on destroying them. But, the high school girl puts all her heart into a love song that convinces the alien to give back the panties and live in peace with the universe.

The end.

Win OVA!

Pete

[D.D. Ivanov]

Needs moar love triangle.

[Ghost Train]

I think the Yuri love rectangle is more popular now:

1) Man A likes Woman B

2) Woman B likes Woman C

3) Woman C likes Man A

4) Man A is actually a woman... wait wut?

Edited October 16, 2009 by Ghost Train

[RedWolf]

I think the Yuri love rectangle is more popular now:

1) Man A likes Woman B

2) Woman B likes Woman C

3) Woman C likes Man A

4) Man A is actually a woman... wait wut?

Okay that's messed up.

[Gubaba]

So.

I have had a vision regarding the next Macross series. Inspired by Renato and Moderator Fokker... here it is:

PREFACE

Macross 7 was a radical departure from previous Macross installments, but its' radicalism was literal, in so far as the latin root of the word radical is...well...'root.' And Macross 7 looked to the essential root of Macross; namely the power of song as a means of changing the hearts of other beings and opening them to love - and took this concept and made it the basis for everything in the series - for better or worse.

Now, Macross isn't just about music. Of equal importance are panties and lingerie in general. Macross Frontier took a bold step in the direction of giving more screen time to panties with episode 8. Now...here's something that hasn't been done, and that certainly should be done:

A Macross OVA focused on PANTIES.

Imagine if episode 8 lasted two hours and was a mystery/detective story - just WHERE are Sheryl's panties? WHO took them?

First - we'd need a protagonist. It would be a young girl who dreams of becoming a super star idol singer - at this point, she can't sing very well and has no prospects, but she does have great taste in panties, and lots of boys in her high school lust after her panties. One day, while showering after gym class, the girl reaches for her panties - and they are gone!

She and her two friends try to seek out what happened to the panties. It'll be a mystery full of twists and turns as first they suspect the boys from school and follow one home even. At home, the boy turns out to have a father who pilots a Destroid. And as the Destroid pulls in to park, the girls see that there are some panties that look the same as the missing panties in the Destroid cockpit. The detective-high schoolers set up a surveillance of the dad, only to discover that the panties belong to the dad's girlfriend, who visits him with lunch and kisses in his Destroid while he's patroling the colony.

They are NOT the missing panties.

This is just one example of how the plot will generally go. We can discover the colony ship and all of its' unique quirks as the high schoolers seek out the missing panties, exploring more and more arcane leads.

In the end, it turns out that and alien being took the panties and is intent on destroying them. But, the high school girl puts all her heart into a love song that convinces the alien to give back the panties and live in peace with the universe.

The end.

Win OVA!

Pete

Ah, a bittersweet ending, I see. Since a galaxy without panties would be kinda hot, actually.

[Sketch]

I want more Firebomber, even if it's just a one-shot OAV or a short film. The new album is simply too good, it deserves an accompanying animated featurette.

[Moly_Sigang]

Here's an idea of mine of a side story taking place during Macross Frontier.

The main hero is a former Vindirance VF pilot who quit after the event of VFX 2. The reason why he quits is because girlfriend was killed during a Black Rainbow terrorist attack. He laid low for a while until finding his way into the Frontier fleet. This is as far as i could think of with the story

[Gubaba]

Here's an idea of mine of a side story taking place during Macross Frontier.

The main hero is a former Vindirance VF pilot who quit after the event of VFX 2. The reason why he quits is because girlfriend was killed during a Black Rainbow terrorist attack. He laid low for a while until finding his way into the Frontier fleet. This is as far as i could think of with the story

Needs more panties.

[Moly_Sigang]

Needs more panties.

This story is still unfinished so i might add some Meltlan panties somewhere.

[eugimon]

This story is still unfinished so i might add some Meltlan panties somewhere.

he could use them as a parachute!

[VFTF1]

I really like the Love Rectangle from a couple posts up.

As for Meltan panties - I'm not really into those because, seen from a human perspective, they look like a large bedsheet.

In fact, if you really think about it, Meltlan's can only be sexy if the camera doesn't show them to you from a pure human POV but gives us the equivalent of wide pans

Runs away fast before the Klan-Lovers-Brigade (or whatever that thing was called) tars and feathers him

Pete

[Marzan]

I think the Yuri love rectangle is more popular now:

1) Man A likes Woman B

2) Woman B likes Woman C

3) Woman C likes Man A

4) Man A is actually a woman... wait wut?

Definitely be a huge hit many segments of anime fandom Specially point 4. Would also bring a whole new dimension to the Macross love triangle...

[the white drew carey]

Although I understand that there is a definite separation between those who want to know about the Hikaru/Misa/Minmay disappearance and those who want to leave it be, I still think a cool story would be about some sort of search and rescue mission that was sent out after them once they lost contact. This ship and crew could have it's own adventure without actually finding them. A story such as this could easily easily build into the overall mythos of the Protoculture and whatnot.

[cayden]

How about this...

Since it's en vogue to do prequels nowadays...how about a Macross series covering the height of the Protoculture and the Schism War between the Supervision Army and the Zentraedi/Meltrandi? I'd love to see an "origins" story like that. It'd cover a lot of as-of-yet untouched Macross history (or prehistory, as the case may be). Exedol specifically remarks on how their culture had been reawakened after 500,000 years...so a prequel covering the events of how their culture was robbed from them that long ago would be an interesting story to tell...

And of course it'd have to include the origins of "Ai Oboete Imasu Ka" and the first person who sang it to tie everything together, or it just wouldn't be a Macross series. Minmay sang it in DYRL, Ranka in Macross F...so there HAD to be an original Protoculture singer/performer who made it so culturally significant to the Zentraedi. I'd love to know about her...

I second this!

It would be my favorite. Maybe as a small triology of 24 episodes. The first eight episodes are about the rise of the Protoculture, episodes 9 to 16 would show us the "birth" of the Protodeviln and everything else which is important for Macross like the Supervision Army and afore mentioned "Ai Oboete Imasu Ka", and the last episodes tell us how everything comes to an end: the dying Protoculture, the imprisonment of the Protodeviln and the ongoing Zentradi hunt for Supervision Army units with the last scenes taking place in 1999 when the ASS-1 crashes on South-Ataria Island.

[VFTF1]

I still think a cool story would be about some sort of search and rescue mission that was sent out after them once they lost contact. This ship and crew could have it's own adventure without actually finding them. A story such as this could easily easily build into the overall mythos of the Protoculture and whatnot.

That already exists. It's called Macross Frontier. It's about a Zentran shipping magnate who has a secret desire to find Lyn Minmei and therefore is bent on developing an advanced fold system that will allow for the integration of the entire universe and, ultimately - finding the SDF-1 and Minmei.

Sadly, things go completely not according to this scenario, and the story is side tracked and builds into an overall mythos of the Protoculture.

Pete

[Cowboy17]

honestly, I don't want any more Macross if Kawamori is going to be writing/directing/doing anything more than design or being a bystander. Macross Zero, asides from the eyecandy was just plain bad and Frontier was even worse in terms of writing, story, direction, etc. I know this opinion is probably an unpopular one here.

I wouldn't mind seeing VF-X2 animated perhaps or something from in-between the main stories.

[VFTF1]

Macross Zero, asides from the eyecandy was just plain bad and Frontier was even worse in terms of writing, story, direction, etc. I know this opinion is probably an unpopular one here.

Not unpopular at all. I for one totally agree with your implication that Macross 7 is the only plain good Macross show out there. But I don't know if they'll have the gutts to really make it a continuation of Fire Bomber's adventures.

Pete

[Funkenstein]

We need a dedicated story for Diamond Squadron and Machida. We find out Machida learned how to fight from some Ki Master, which he used to create the Machida Punch. After Macross Frontier he learns how to use the pin-point barrier as a beam weapon and starts doing Space Kung Fu.

[VFTF1]

OOOh! Another idea just flashed before my mind!

Macross: Crossroads

His name is Ram. He is a valkyrie pilot by day.

Her name is Lam. She is a nightclub singer by night.

But, when the [fill in some evil enemy] hords attack the collony, a choice must be made:

Does Ram give up his male self and dedicate himself fully to being Lam, and singing to the enemy...or does Lam put away naive dreams and take up the fight alongside her comrades in arms as Ram?

The ultimate Macross story!

A story of one transvestite's personal struggle - which destiny to follow? Will he believe in the power of love or the power of mecha?

Pete

Edited October 19, 2009 by VFTF1

[Sketch]

Not unpopular at all. I for one totally agree with your implication that Macross 7 is the only plain good Macross show out there. But I don't know if they'll have the gutts to really make it a continuation of Fire Bomber's adventures.

Pete

Until Frontier came around, Macross 7 was the most popular entry in the franchise. I don't think they'll ever revisit it as a TV series, but an OAV or Movie wouldn't be outside the realm of reality.

[Marzan]

OOOh! Another idea just flashed before my mind!

Macross: Crossroads

His name is Ram. He is a valkyrie pilot by day.

Her name is Lam. She is a nightclub singer by night.

But, when the [fill in some evil enemy] hords attack the collony, a choice must be made:

Does Ram give up his male self and dedicate himself fully to being Lam, and singing to the enemy...or does Lam put away naive dreams and take up the fight alongside her comrades in arms as Ram?

The ultimate Macross story!

A story of one transvestite's personal struggle - which destiny to follow? Will he believe in the power of love or the power of mecha?

Pete

Reminds me a bit of Yellow Belmont of Mospeada fame!

[RDClip]

honestly, I don't want any more Macross if Kawamori is going to be writing/directing/doing anything more than design or being a bystander. Macross Zero, asides from the eyecandy was just plain bad and Frontier was even worse in terms of writing, story, direction, etc. I know this opinion is probably an unpopular one here.

I wouldn't mind seeing VF-X2 animated perhaps or something from in-between the main stories.

i personally liked both zero and frontier. they both have their merits and flaws but are overall are fun and interesting. i disagree about the trend of badmouthing Kawamori, i believe he has kept the macross franchise generally good and not too far out there unlike say Hideo Kojima or Hideaki Anno have done with their most famous franchises.

In the end i believe that Kawamori has kept Macross true to what the franchise is about.

and P.S to everyone in gerenal:

don't complain about fanservice in Macross Frontier. There was loads of fanservice and sexual humour in the original SDFM and all 80's anime for that matter.

[Gubaba]

honestly, I don't want any more Macross if Kawamori is going to be writing/directing/doing anything more than design or being a bystander. Macross Zero, asides from the eyecandy was just plain bad and Frontier was even worse in terms of writing, story, direction, etc. I know this opinion is probably an unpopular one here.

I wouldn't mind seeing VF-X2 animated perhaps or something from in-between the main stories.

Hmm...Kawamori directed Zero, but he didn't write it. And he neither wrote nor directed Frontier. So I'm not sure what you're getting at.

[aerocombatpilot]

A Macross series with Mikimoto back as character designer!!!!!!

[Funkenstein]

Oh yeah, a story where a Zentraedi has a quirk in his DNA where in he's male when macronized and female when micronized. And he cant control when that happens!

[Vepariga]

less sexual innuendo and more battle scenes,less shouting characters names 100 times during battle and more concentrating emotions lol

[eugimon]

Oh yeah, a story where a Zentraedi has a quirk in his DNA where in he's male when macronized and female when micronized. And he cant control when that happens!

And his friend/enemy turns into a pig?

[Funkenstein]

And his friend/enemy turns into a pig?

Why not?!

[Gubaba]

Okay, how about this then...

AD 2066.

A small planet, bleak, barren, and covered with ice, which exists on the periphery of human settlement. There is only one small base here, more of a waypost than anything else. About once every few years, an emigration ship will stop nearby and deliver some supplies before moving on into the unknown.

This is their home: the 297th Attack Team: Shotaro, Dietrich, Larry, Hong, Bjorn, Phuoc, and Paco. Seven men in their late 40s/early 50s. Dietrich, Hong, Bjorn, Phuoc, Paco drive destroids (Two Cheyenne IIIs, a Tomahawk Mk.XXI, a Phalanx Mk.XXXVII, and a Fürstin Monster). Shotaro and Larry each fly VF-33s.

They're also "The Troopers": an Iron Maiden cover band.

Since there are no women, and all the men are straight, there's no fanservice-y type stuff (although an ongoing gag involves the others constantly discovering Bjorn masturbating in his quarters). The initial character drama revolves around Phuoc: he is a free-thinking dreamer who wants to include Bruce Dickenson's solo recordings in their repetoire, but the others are not interested.

Suddenly, they are surprise-attacked without warning by a mysterious enemy. Dietrich is killed in the first attack, but it's kind of okay, because everyone agreed that having TWO keyboardists was a little much.

So they gird their loins to prepare for battle. The enemy lands somewhere in the frozen waste, and their high-level of ECM jamming makes it impossible for the 297th to find them. Unbeknownst to them, the enemy starts setting up an elaborate base, while launching probing attacks against the 297th. The attacks are pretty weak, though, and the 297th doesn't worry too much.

But one day, during a Troopers rehearsal, soon after Phuoc has achieved triumph by finally convincing the band to at least attempt to play "Tatooed Millionaire," they are surprise attacked without warning again. by what looks like a gigantic battle fortress. They think it's an SDF-1 replica at first, but then realize to their horror that it's actually a Supervision Army ship. The long-lost foes of the Zentradi have returned to known space, and plan on conquest.

In the ensuing attack, their base is destoryed and Hong is mortally wounded. With his dying breath, he murmurs his last wish: that the Troopers concentrate only on Maiden's most successful 1981-'86 material, and definitely play nothing that they recorded after 1988's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. Bjorn angrily retorts that he loves playing "Not Afraid to Shoot Strangers," but Shotaro and Larry quiet him down, and vow to Hong that they will accede to his wishes. Hong dies with a smile on his face, but Phuoc is crushed.

Now on the run from the steadily mounting Supervision Army threat, the 297th have to keep moving, and finding food and places to rehearse becomes more and more difficult. Tensions mount. One morning, after a long argument about the chord changes in "22 Acacia Avenue," Paco and his Tomahawk are missing.

The 297th are getting desperate, and decide to break into the Supervision Army base and steal an escape craft so that they can warn humanity on the looming threat.

The break-in is accomplished during a breathtaking concert sequence, where the Troopers reenact a note-for-note performance of Live After Death as a distraction. They steal a small ship, and escorted by Shotaro and Larry, they leave the planet. Larry, however, gets shot down during the escape.

They get to space, but soon run out of fuel. Shotaro loses two guitar strings as well, and the aliens are closing in...

When suddenly, they detect a defold nearby. The call for help, and amazingly, the Megaroad-01 arrives! A "Reverse Fold Fault" they encountered meant that while only fifty years passed by in the outside universe, 300 years passed on board the ship, which is now commanded by Captain Pei Hsuan Ichijo-Lynn.

The Megaroad-01 unleashes it's squadrons of VF-4 Lightnings, and undergoes a transformation. They rescue the 297th, who join the battle against two Supervision Army gunships. Each of the members of the Troopers has a splendid, heroic death. Phuoc goes out singing "Shoot all the Clowns." But still, the Megaroad is outmatched, until, suddenly, Paco arrives with reinforcment: Macross Frontier. The husband/wife duo of Alto and Sheryl Saotome (Ranka had died from eating an expired carrot a few years before), come in, with Luca behind them. Luca gets killed instantly. Paco dies soon after.

Finally, the Megaroad-01 crashes into the small planet itself, destroying it and the Supervision Army.

The galaxy is safe once again.

[Funkenstein]

Its like Tom Clancy basing a book on Musical Chairs.

[dreamweaver13]

Okay, how about this then...

AD 2066.

A small planet, bleak, barren, and covered with ice, which exists on the periphery of human settlement. There is only one small base here, more of a waypost than anything else. About once every few years, an emigration ship will stop nearby and deliver some supplies before moving on into the unknown.

This is their home: the 297th Attack Team: Shotaro, Dietrich, Larry, Hong, Bjorn, Phuoc, and Paco. Seven men in their late 40s/early 50s. Dietrich, Hong, Bjorn, Phuoc, Paco drive destroids (Two Cheyenne IIIs, a Tomahawk Mk.XXI, a Phalanx Mk.XXXVII, and a Fürstin Monster). Shotaro and Larry each fly VF-33s.

They're also "The Troopers": an Iron Maiden cover band.

Since there are no women, and all the men are straight, there's no fanservice-y type stuff (although an ongoing gag involves the others constantly discovering Bjorn masturbating in his quarters). The initial character drama revolves around Phuoc: he is a free-thinking dreamer who wants to include Bruce Dickenson's solo recordings in their repetoire, but the others are not interested.

Suddenly, they are surprise-attacked without warning by a mysterious enemy. Dietrich is killed in the first attack, but it's kind of okay, because everyone agreed that having TWO keyboardists was a little much.

So they gird their loins to prepare for battle. The enemy lands somewhere in the frozen waste, and their high-level of ECM jamming makes it impossible for the 297th to find them. Unbeknownst to them, the enemy starts setting up an elaborate base, while launching probing attacks against the 297th. The attacks are pretty weak, though, and the 297th doesn't worry too much.

But one day, during a Troopers rehearsal, soon after Phuoc has achieved triumph by finally convincing the band to at least attempt to play "Tatooed Millionaire," they are surprise attacked without warning again. by what looks like a gigantic battle fortress. They think it's an SDF-1 replica at first, but then realize to their horror that it's actually a Supervision Army ship. The long-lost foes of the Zentradi have returned to known space, and plan on conquest.

In the ensuing attack, their base is destoryed and Hong is mortally wounded. With his dying breath, he murmurs his last wish: that the Troopers concentrate only on Maiden's most successful 1981-'86 material, and definitely play nothing that they recorded after 1988's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. Bjorn angrily retorts that he loves playing "Not Afraid to Shoot Strangers," but Shotaro and Larry quiet him down, and vow to Hong that they will accede to his wishes. Hong dies with a smile on his face, but Phuoc is crushed.

Now on the run from the steadily mounting Supervision Army threat, the 297th have to keep moving, and finding food and places to rehearse becomes more and more difficult. Tensions mount. One morning, after a long argument about the chord changes in "22 Acacia Avenue," Paco and his Tomahawk are missing.

The 297th are getting desperate, and decide to break into the Supervision Army base and steal an escape craft so that they can warn humanity on the looming threat.

The break-in is accomplished during a breathtaking concert sequence, where the Troopers reenact a note-for-note performance of Live After Death as a distraction. They steal a small ship, and escorted by Shotaro and Larry, they leave the planet. Larry, however, gets shot down during the escape.

They get to space, but soon run out of fuel. Shotaro loses two guitar strings as well, and the aliens are closing in...

When suddenly, they detect a defold nearby. The call for help, and amazingly, the Megaroad-01 arrives! A "Reverse Fold Fault" they encountered meant that while only fifty years passed by in the outside universe, 300 years passed on board the ship, which is now commanded by Captain Pei Hsuan Ichijo-Lynn.

The Megaroad-01 unleashes it's squadrons of VF-4 Lightnings, and undergoes a transformation. They rescue the 297th, who join the battle against two Supervision Army gunships. Each of the members of the Troopers has a splendid, heroic death. Phuoc goes out singing "Shoot all the Clowns." But still, the Megaroad is outmatched, until, suddenly, Paco arrives with reinforcment: Macross Frontier. The husband/wife duo of Alto and Sheryl Saotome (Ranka had died from eating an expired carrot a few years before), come in, with Luca behind them. Luca gets killed instantly. Paco dies soon after.

Finally, the Megaroad-01 crashes into the small planet itself, destroying it and the Supervision Army.

The galaxy is safe once again.

Gubaba, my man, this is full of WIN. all the more for the extensive Iron Maiden references! Where does Eddie come in?

Then they should end the series with a montage of all female military characters in the Macross universe, sung to the tune of "Women in Uniform".

On another note, man you really HATE Luca that much, huh? Won't you ever forgive him for that stolen kiss?

[IHATEYOU]

Okay, how about this then...

AD 2066.

...Fürstin Monster...

Is that a princess monster there?

[Vepariga]

with Luca behind them. Luca gets killed instantly. Paco dies soon after.

lol seriously if this happened,it would be my favorite episode.