The Transformers 3 Thread--A Michael Bay Thread

[Hikuro]

You need to get that girl rolling into some good stuff now, try Gurren Lagann.

Tried it, she did not like it. She isn't bias on any older Transformers though, she's starting to enjoy G1 and is going to borrow Season 1. She thinks the Unicron Triology looks like crap so she agreed with me on passing, Beastwars seems tempting but she doesn't feel ready to tackle a poop slinging Optimus.

I've tried Gundam, both old and new and she wouldn't get into it cause she's not into space, she somehow thinks space is stupid ......go figure

She seems picky on her anime and her robots.

[Keith]

Hates space? That's just crazy talk, even the newer Star Trek?

[big F]

The thing everyone's missed is she's a girl of dateable age who likes transforming mecha. That's a rare breed.

My misses likes the films for the action and special effects, but still isn't in to macross because its "cartoons" and they are for kids. On the flip side she likes Dr Who and Star Trek so all is not lost.

[aerocombatpilot]

My girlfriend however spent 20 minutes crying her eyes out during the big ol' shuttle sequence before chicago.......then cried a little more during chicago.

She wasn't the only one! As a guy I have to admit the scene at the shuttle before the launch, and the scene with Bumblebee toward the end in Chicago choked me up! It felt like that scene in Revenge of the Sith where order 66 is activated and the Jedi are killed, that really bothered me.

[big F]

She wasn't the only one! As a guy I have to admit the scene at the shuttle before the launch, and the scene with Bumblebee toward the end in Chicago choked me up! It felt like that scene in Revenge of the Sith where order 66 is activated and the Jedi are killed, that really bothered me.

Even though in ROTS we all knew what was gonna happen it was still sad, I was still rooting for at least one Jedi to get some payback and survive. Yoda doesn't count by the way.

I thought with Bumble Bee's heart felt good bye that not all the Autobots were in on the plan, Still loved the Weckers couldn't care less attitude to leaving it was a nice balance, but then I guess they knew the plan.

Edited July 2, 2011 by big F

[Max Jenius]

I thought it was better than rotf, but dragged on too long. Past a certain point the explosions lost all meaning. 7/10.

[slaginpit]

So I saw DOTM

Mind you I didnt pay for it and I enjoyed it at home. Lets say Im glad I didnt go. But I will admit its better than the second. But the second was so poo that movie needed to be warped to another dimension how shitty it smelled and therefore it doesnt really say much about the third

Here are my speaking points;

-The score is awesome

-Que is so fugly I felt like puking

-Sam Knows Parkour and is Spiderman and has Limbs of Steel

-So I counted the total screen time SS ever had in all three and it was 10 Min. Yes actually under. Pathetic! I actually was sad the way he died. I kinda wanted him to kill shia and the farting white skinny Hulk cause both seemed as indestructible as the autobots shiny coats in car modes

-Now not sure what the fart the africa scene was or how it was cut or the quality I watched but did the farting elephants say all hail megatron????

-What the fart was the headmaster thing pet of megatrons???

-Lazerbeak talking Ah NO!

-Lazerbeak killing the buzzard Classic!

-lazerbeak turning into a bazillion things AH no I can only let my mind accept that twisted metal can turn into ONE thing.

-Shockwave Awesome wtf did he say oh it was MUH{NOH{H{UIH{)*@Y+)*Y{UIODHUHPAUHPOH{

-Primes wings seemed um floppy

-Prime didnt care to mention his buddy Ironhide but he sure was crying like a baby when got tangled in a bunch of wires Oh sure he just went through a worm thingy that ate buildings for lunch and then a building but steel cables made by humans

-Executions hmm Ok i like that but I thought soundwave would blow a hole in Dylan just for ordering him so um

-The trailer weapon pack I REALLY LOVE THAT!

-Ok maybe again it was a cut but i rewound and did it again when Prime has the blade in his shoulder and S Prime cleans the sidewalk with his face Prime says NOOO sentinel like now he is whining like a bitch about to be slapped senseless??

-S. Prime reminds me of anakin in the third SW movie im bad im good im bad again JFC make up your mind dumbass!

-Most memorable line" We were gods once and now they look at us as just Machines"

I think this is very important as Transformers were not necessarily evil or good but just sat at such a higher level than humanity that it seemed fair for them to be seen as gods.

-fart if I was a transformer good or bad I would just eff humanity over. So many of them were so disrespectful of these sentient aliens and their power I did not like at all how many of them talked to them as if there were peers

-the action wasnt bad and kudos to the craftsmen that did all the computer CGI work but it seemed so rushed. I felt the story was going at such a fast pace for 2.5 hours you would think they would not need to.

-Scenes that didnt advance the story or make sense and were there not needed. -Megs strolling in a desert.. and camping out ???? Iran scene please

-the last 6 min of the movie annoyed to me to hell. I felt as if I was watching a montage of Bad Boys II, Armageddon, a music video

-and then it just ends. Nothing. zilch. No completion just done. What happens do the mouthy humans kick the autobots off the planet?? WHAT dammit. fart write a story jeez

-Cybertron is it gone???? Last image i got was it was being sucked into a vortex because only 20 percent of it made it to earth and by the way something so huge would wreak havoc on earth. I guess bay isn't such a fan of physics

-SO prime abandons his home planet for mouthy humans. hmm He wont be a Prime for too long! They might lynch him on his home planet for traitor if there is still a home planet

Edit

So I went back to catch more things that bothered me

-the cuts are so bad i am reminded of kids making a film in super 8

The scene in africa with Megatron.

Cut Wildlife Africa, a lush jungle plateau with lots of Acacia and Adansonia than pan to megatron on a dirt road more desert than plateau jungle, and all of a sudden he is in a white sands desert

then the next cut - how long did he walk for because he looks like he is in south africa again in a small camp????

Edited July 2, 2011 by azrael

[slaginpit]

This is in regards to the Toys;

Jetwing Prime

I had been wanting to get this but

They are going for STUPID prices

Ebay

One has it at 206 cdn and shipping is 91.44

for a total of 297.44

the other has it for 284.14 cdn and 82.66 shipping

for a total 366.80

I am not sure a figure that is not painted like buster prime is worth that much let be fair in canadian prices its 50 bucks and the jet thing i dont think is worth more than 30 bucks. That brings your total to 80 bucks and 50 bucks should be enough for shipping since the BOX for both the PG Strike and 00 Raiser were 60 bucks to ship and were much bigger. So 130 shipped seems fair. Does takara know what kind of crackhead monkeys are selling this for. Even though Takara may not care this does affect their overall product image because people will not say look at that moron selling at that price but more so look at takara they think this is what their product is worth???

Anyway I will take that money instead and either get the new Fewture Shin Getter or Yamato SDF-1 seeing they wont be making a TV version

[Einherjar]

Recycled Bayhem: Transformers 3 reused a chase scene from The Island

Did you all know Michael Bay did "The Island?" I don't remember that much explosions in there for his taste.

[eugimon]

haha, considering, like, 5 people saw The Island, I'm surprised anyone even picked up on that. Surprised... but a sad, sad surprised.

[Hikuro]

Yeah over probably 5 seconds worth of reused footage......eeeeeh could care less. It sort of helped the action.

[aerocombatpilot]

I have a question for those who have seen the movie: Did anybody miss Megan Fox or did you pefer Rosie-Huntington-whiteley?

Personally I liked Rosie's character better than Megan's.

[kaiotheforsaken]

Slag- I would probably spoiler tag that...rant

Aero- I personally thought Rosie was a better character and I was impressed with her acting overall. I mean, she wasn't going to win an Oscar for it, but considering it's her first acting job I was impressed. That being said, I never really understood all the frothing over Fox to begin with.

I had an experience similar to Hikuro's, my GF really enjoyed the latest film. I'm not sure she has seen all of the first before, but she hated the second.

[RedWolf]

For those thinking the trilogy's plot doesn't make sense here is what I make of it.

It seems chasing the Allspark alone was hardly a plan right? And Megatron being Number 2 to the Fallen doesn't fit him right? Nobody commands the Decepticons but him right?

Thing is Megatron had a Plan. But it all went to The Pit thanks to Luck or Fate.

It all fits!

For one thing Megatron knew where the Allspark is going to crash because Sentinel Prime told him as he defected.

The Ark with its sophisticated sensors knew where it was headed. Megatron went ahead to take it. Or Sentinel arranged its trajectory towards Earth.

But wait what about the Fallen and Sentinel Prime? The Fallen wanted every bot named Prime dead. Here's the thing Megatron had Sentinel Prime's death faked!

Megatron wanted to use Sentinel Prime to kill the Fallen. Consolidate his leadership on both factions by killing the Decepticon founder and having support of the Autobot founder.

They were supposed to rendezvous on Earth but Megatron got iced. Unfortunately the Space Bridge used after the escape malfunctioned brought the Ark at the wrong time or space. Or the Ark was too damaged to make it in time.

With Sentinel in stasis he never got a wake up call and the Ark eventually plowed on the moon.

Soundwave and Laserbeak who were in the know of Megatron's plan hid a sizable army on the moon keeping it secret from the Fallen and Starscream. This fleet were reported as looking for the Allspark elsewhere in the galaxy. Organized raiding the Ark of the Space Bridge pillars on the Moon and waited for Megatron's return setting up human agents around Earth.

The Seekers have been trying to look for the Matrix. Its so hush-hush secret the Autobots did not know about it. But Wheelie knows... And he worked for Soundwave.

Jetfire believe the Fallen was an bunghole that abandoned them. What if Soundwave did a little "creative accounting" of his own. These guys are listed off as dead. Hampering their efforts. And having little spies like Wheelie track them down so they wouldn't get in the way of the plan.

[slaginpit]

Slag- I would probably spoiler tag that...rant

Aero- I personally thought Rosie was a better character and I was impressed with her acting overall. I mean, she wasn't going to win an Oscar for it, but considering it's her first acting job I was impressed. That being said, I never really understood all the frothing over Fox to begin with.

I had an experience similar to Hikuro's, my GF really enjoyed the latest film. I'm not sure she has seen all of the first before, but she hated the second.

How do I do that ?

I will gladly do it

[Golden Arms]

Saw the movie last night and liked it. But you definately have to check your brain at the door for these films. I did like a lot of the famous actors that were in it. I thought the plot was somewhat stupid, nut like I had, you have to leave your brain at home. The ending was very weak. I thought Sam's girlfrind did a pretty good acting for her first film. Highly recommend you see it in 3D. One of the best 3D films I've seen to date.

[Twoducks]

I have a question for those who have seen the movie: Did anybody miss Megan Fox or did you pefer Rosie-Huntington-whiteley?

Personally I liked Rosie's character better than Megan's.

Since they both are just “PG-13” porn, I couldn't care less. But substitute girlfriend wins over Fox in the “being treated more like an object award”.

When was Fox fired? It feels like the script they shoot had her character. There are just two mentions: "I was dumped", "I got something better" or something like it but other than that, you could stick Fox’s face and the movie would flow the same way. They never explain Newgirlfriend’s job but the dialog and scenes make it sound and look like a mechanic... just like Fox’s character.

[aerocombatpilot]

Since they both are just “PG-13” porn, I couldn't care less. But substitute girlfriend wins over Fox in the “being treated more like an object award”.

When was Fox fired? It feels like the script they shoot had her character. There are just two mentions: "I was dumped", "I got something better" or something like it but other than that, you could stick Fox’s face and the movie would flow the same way. They never explain Newgirlfriend’s job but the dialog and scenes make it sound and look like a mechanic... just like Fox’s character.

Yeah, I have to agree with you on the "PG-13 porn".Rosie's "opening shot" did catch me off-guard and the "getting out of the Mercedes SLS" did also, but for some reason I still like her "character" better than Fox's.

[BeyondTheGrave]

I saw it yesterday. I agree with almost everyone's complaints/gripes. Carly was like able at first. But then I realized how stupid she was and lacked common sense. I also have trouble believing she could convince a giant robot whose probably been alive longer than her parents.

But mainly I think the editing could have been better. As in less gratuitous shots of nothing.

They never explain Newgirlfriend’s job but the dialog and scenes make it sound and look like a mechanic... just like Fox’s character.

Dempsey made it sound like she organized the collection. But I have a hard time believing that if his character runs an accounting firm.

Edited July 3, 2011 by BeyondTheGrave

[eugimon]

Got back from seeing it in imax3D

Can't say it's a "good" movie but I had a blast. Are there problems? Sure, of course. Most likely, everything bad you've heard about this movie is spot on. Is it too long? Yes. Are there editing issues? Definitely. Are there plot holes? The holes have holes. Was it awesome? Yes.

[Gaijin]

Went with a friend today. This was a very boring film for me. That last act just kept dragging on and on.

Liked the first one that everyone here hated, liked the action of the second film but, hated the plot. This final one....was just weird and boring.

Not a TF fan though, so perhaps thats why I dislike the one that people like.

Edit: The 3D was a turn off for me (no 2d version where I was) so that probably added to my dislike.

Edited July 3, 2011 by Gaijin

[knoted]

I saw it this week in IMAX 3D. First half was OK, Chicago part & deaths of major characters were portrayed in ABSURD & dumb manner.

So....DOTM's only marginally better than ROTF, and that doesn't say much at all.

The 2007 TF movie is still the best out of the 3.

[Einherjar]

If I still have a subscription to Netflicks in 6 months, then I'll watch this on DVD.

[Twoducks]

Imax3D guys, did your version also jump from clear

Chicago skies to afternoon sky filled with Decepticon floating heads with tentacles without any transition or did you get extra footage there?

I actually heard the whole audience go “Uh?” after that hard edit cut.

Edited July 3, 2011 by Twoducks

[eugimon]

Imax3D guys, did your version also jump from clear

Chicago skies to afternoon sky filled with Decepticon floating heads with tentacles without any transition or did you get extra footage there?

I actually heard the whole audience go “Uh?” after that hard edit cut.

yup and also

after bumblebee saves sam and army dude and then suddenly he's facing execution

[Limbo]

Is there such a thing as 3D fatigue?

I don't know if is only me, but on TF3 there were only a few scenes where I *really* had the 3d feeling.

Cyberton scene on the beginning and the wing-suit strike...

I wonder if there's anything to the fact I wear glasses, or if after a few minutes my eyes are adjusting to "normalize" the 3d effect.

Same thing with Tron... I was so disappointed that I could barely see any 3d at all.

[Negotiator]

Is there such a thing as 3D fatigue?

I don't know if is only me, but on TF3 there were only a few scenes where I *really* had the 3d feeling.

Cyberton scene on the beginning and the wing-suit strike...

I wonder if there's anything to the fact I wear glasses, or if after a few minutes my eyes are adjusting to "normalize" the 3d effect.

Same thing with Tron... I was so disappointed that I could barely see any 3d at all.

You might be on to something. I wore my glasses in avatar and after a few minutes, I didn't notice any 3D.

edit:

then again, I have a slight astigmatism on my right eye. Dunno if that has anything to do with it.

Edited July 4, 2011 by Negotiator

[azrael]

Is there such a thing as 3D fatigue?

There's a thread for that. According to Box Office Mojo, 60% of this movie's gross came from 3D sales, surprisingly, but yet still down overall. So yes, people are tired of 3D, even Baysplosions in 3D.

[treatment]

Saw it. The non-3D edition.

Was so stoked when Shockwave actually

spoke "Optimus..." in his classic G1-vocals in his first appearance at the Chernobyl scene. Sadly, only gurgling incoherent grunting afterwards in his Chicago scenes, tho.

The downsides were:

The Wreckers were meh. Q and Dino were meh.

Of course, most of the humans were meh, but that's always been a given. Nevertheless, Dylan and Bruce were the only ones who had good acting chops and were really fun to watch.

Megs was ok, but Bay totally punked his characterization again here as he did in ROTF.

oh, and yeah. Bay's plot holes.

---

The good stuff are:

Thank diety the annoying ROTF-Twins weren't in it. Their replacements were funny and better.

Ironhide to the rescue.

Optimus' winged offensive.

Optimus vs Shockwave.

Optimus vs Sentinel.

Optimus vs Megs.

BBee vs Soundwave.

Tentacle building.

---

The stuff that could've been better:

Optimus and wires. WTF?!

Optimus vs Shockwave. Good and brutal, but Shocky was already gimped before the inevitable duel.

Optimus vs Megs. Brutal but a bit too short.

Ratchet and Sideswipe could've used more battle time.

Overall, actually a pretty kewl movie to watch in the theater. At least, the non-3D version I saw.

Edited July 4, 2011 by treatment

[Zor Primus]

Saw it yesterday...could have just waited for Netflix. Honestly I think HP 8 pt2 is going to save these summer "blockbusters" of 2011.

[peter]

I'll watch a cam version....sounds like it might hide some of the flaws.

[Archer]

I thought the movie was pretty good (saw it in 3D), but there was one thing that really irked me:

When Sentinel Prime goes rogue and shoots Ironhide 3 times, killing him, no one really seems to care. Even when his head falls off, people seem to care

less. Why?!! The poor guy has been there since the 1st movie, has saved many of said people's lives multiple times (even optimus if I recall), and no one

gives him or his body a second glance. Its like they (including the autobots themselves) got a case of the "another guy falls, big deal" syndrome or something.

I don't know, maybe its just me, but the lack of any emotion for fallen comrades seemed to plague this movie, especially this scene. Annoyed me a bit.

Even JAZZ got some sympathy in the 1st movie

Rant Over

[Keith]

I'm definately confused by what happened. It definately looks like scenes were storyboarded, but whole chunks of scenes do definately appear to be missing. Did they decide it was worth trimming down the runtime so we could see people sliding around in a falling building for half of an hour (that should have taken 5 minutes tops, if that). Did they run out of budge to work out Sentinel's transformation? I mean really, we see a truck driving, then for no reason he's in robot form, then for no reason he's a truck again. I woudln't doubt if someone saying "hey the movie's too long, we've gotta keep these human effects shots in, so just trim some robot stuff" was in charge of editing. Aside from that, my only main gripe is the same gripe I always have. Robot dialogue aside from Optimus is equal parts stupid & detatched from any human dialogue. It's like no on ecan even understand them in the first place, because no one is even remotely reacting to any robot dialogue (again, aside from Op & maybe Megs). And new chick has a weird mouth, but then that's not her fault.

[anime52k8]

just saw it...

AWESOME!

I kind of wanted more Shockwave, but what they did include was sweet none the less. I'm glad that Soundwave got plenty of screen time though, he and laserbeak were crazy and probably my favorite part of the movie. That and Batshit crazy megatron with his robot pit bull and sawed off shotgun, basically doing his best evil road warrior impression. Also happy to see barricade make an appearance (and it's actually him, not someone who looks like him) and I really dug the dreads.

As for the Autobots,

Optimus Prime's new trailer is ridiculous as where the Wreckers with their angry Scottish accents. I loved both of them. I really dug Mirage esthetically and his fight scenes where good but I don't get why they didn't actually call him or Wheeljack by their actual names in the film though. I also really missed the twins, Mudflap and skids where perhaps my favorite part of RotF and it sucks they didn't show up again. Wheelie and Brains where pretty funny though.

Also, Dutch (Alan Tudyk) was hilarious beyond words.

Now I can't wait for toys of Soundwave and Mirage. I'd also really like to see Deluxe size versions of the other wreckers besides Crankcase.

[Negotiator]

Looking forward to dino and sound wave figs. Hope they really are the car brands used and not some made up hybrid.

glad they didn't use ratchet's name. Wouldn't want ratchet to be so fugly and go out the way he did. Can't stain the Dr smoov version! I was waiting for wheelie and brains to show up again because I can't see them dying when the ship didn't even blow up.

Edited July 5, 2011 by Negotiator